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Posted: **Wed 22 Feb 2012, 08:57**

BarryK wrote:...
Note, the desktop 'install' icon has a choice to install SFS files, and I have added 'poedit' -- ...

Sorry, there is just openoffice

Posted: **Wed 22 Feb 2012, 10:22**

BarryK wrote:... MoManager, a brand new one-stop-shop for creating a langpack PET...

Installed latest retrovol-0.12.pet from
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=50744
which has included French (thanks to Argolance

) and German mo files.

In momanager there is no chance to edit or include it into langpack.

retrovol is a binary executable.

jwm is also a binary executable but it is handled by momanager.

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Edited
This not meant as anything in the direction of a bug report
Just my observation.
Maybe it is a good solution to NOT offer everything for translation

Posted: **Wed 22 Feb 2012, 16:11**

L18L wrote:Installed latest retrovol-0.12.pet...which has included French (thanks to Argolance ) and German mo files.

In momanager there is no chance to edit or include it into langpack.

retrovol is a binary executable.

jwm is also a binary executable but it is handled by momanager.

_______________________-

Edited
This not meant as anything in the direction of a bug report
Just my observation.
Maybe it is a good solution to NOT offer everything for translation

Maybe because retrovol uses /usr/local/share .... ?

Posted: **Wed 22 Feb 2012, 19:44**

I installed the racy beta to a 4gb flash drive using the puppy
universal installer.
Wed 22 Feb 2012 Operating System: Racy Puppy-5.2.2.7 Linux 3.0.17
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 1082 (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA product: GF110 Board - 12630002 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.11.0
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (513x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GTX 560 Ti/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL version string: 4.2.0 NVIDIA 295.20

Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU
Core 0: 1600 1: 1600 2: 1600 3: 1600 4: 1600 5: 1600 6: 1600 7: 1600 MHz

# glxgears
140251 frames in 5.0 seconds = 28050.051 FPS
140878 frames in 5.0 seconds = 28175.426 FPS
140843 frames in 5.0 seconds = 28168.508 FPS

No problems so far.

Posted: **Wed 22 Feb 2012, 20:53**

Thanks to rodin.s we have also xwin internationalized.

Really very important messages!

Returning from X the first character in console is displaying just as 1 question mark.

in xwin line 547 rodin.s wrote:#unicode_start #i18n rodin.s for unicode start after exit from X. ??????what is this??????

After some trials I have found the solution:
font has to be set again

Tested succesfully (just for 1 font

) by inserting
xwin line 548:

Code: Select all

zcat /lib/consolefonts/LatGrkCyr-8x16.psfu.gz | loadfont # !!! a solution

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sc0ttman wrote:Maybe because retrovol uses /usr/local/share .... ?

Does it

Posted: **Thu 23 Feb 2012, 15:19**

This Racy with internationalization changes seems to be great - thanks Barry!

Did updates from 5.2.2.6 to 5.2.2.3 on three machines. Every time german localization of desktop-icons falled back to english (menu entries okay).

Can't see why...

mave

Posted: **Thu 23 Feb 2012, 23:06**

L18L wrote:
BarryK wrote:...
Note, the desktop 'install' icon has a choice to install SFS files, and I have added 'poedit' -- ...
Sorry, there is just openoffice

Fixed:
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02715

Posted: **Thu 23 Feb 2012, 23:37**

L18L wrote:
BarryK wrote:... MoManager, a brand new one-stop-shop for creating a langpack PET...
Installed latest retrovol-0.12.pet from
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=50744
which has included French (thanks to Argolance ) and German mo files.

In momanager there is no chance to edit or include it into langpack.

retrovol is a binary executable.

jwm is also a binary executable but it is handled by momanager.

_______________________-

Edited
This not meant as anything in the direction of a bug report
Just my observation.
Maybe it is a good solution to NOT offer everything for translation

No problem, retrovol is now managed by MoManager, you need to get retrovol.pot from here:
http://bkhome.org/fossil/woof2.cgi/info/03d04c2cc3

Posted: **Fri 24 Feb 2012, 00:08**

L18L wrote:Thanks to rodin.s we have also xwin internationalized.

Really very important messages!

Returning from X the first character in console is displaying just as 1 question mark.
in xwin line 547 rodin.s wrote:#unicode_start #i18n rodin.s for unicode start after exit from X. ??????what is this??????
After some trials I have found the solution:
font has to be set again

Tested succesfully (just for 1 font ) by inserting
xwin line 548:
Code: Select all
zcat /lib/consolefonts/LatGrkCyr-8x16.psfu.gz | loadfont # !!! a solution 
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sc0ttman wrote:Maybe because retrovol uses /usr/local/share .... ?
Does it

However, does the font only need to be reloaded when the locale has been changed?

At first boot, locale will be en_US, then you use QuickSetup to change the locale. Then, when you exit from X, the correct font will not be loaded.

However, after having created a save-file, after reboot, the correct console font will be loaded, so at exit from X, it should not need reloading?

Based on the above reasoning, I have modified xwin.

Posted: **Fri 24 Feb 2012, 00:54**

BarryK wrote:
L18L wrote:Thanks to rodin.s we have also xwin internationalized.

Really very important messages!

Returning from X the first character in console is displaying just as 1 question mark.
in xwin line 547 rodin.s wrote:#unicode_start #i18n rodin.s for unicode start after exit from X. ??????what is this??????
After some trials I have found the solution:
font has to be set again

Tested succesfully (just for 1 font ) by inserting
xwin line 548:
Code: Select all
zcat /lib/consolefonts/LatGrkCyr-8x16.psfu.gz | loadfont # !!! a solution 
___________________________________________________________

sc0ttman wrote:Maybe because retrovol uses /usr/local/share .... ?
Does it
However, does the font only need to be reloaded when the locale has been changed?

At first boot, locale will be en_US, then you use QuickSetup to change the locale. Then, when you exit from X, the correct font will not be loaded.

However, after having created a save-file, after reboot, the correct console font will be loaded, so at exit from X, it should not need reloading?

Based on the above reasoning, I have modified xwin.

I have modified quicksetup to load correct console font if locale is changed. So, xwin should not need any change.
Will upload Woof soon.

Posted: **Fri 24 Feb 2012, 01:24**

mave wrote:This Racy with internationalization changes seems to be great - thanks Barry!

Did updates from 5.2.2.6 to 5.2.2.3 on three machines. Every time german localization of desktop-icons falled back to english (menu entries okay).

Can't see why...

mave

I just did a test. Running 5.2.2.7, I changed to de_DE, then edited /etc/DISTRO_SPECS and changed the version back to 5.2.2.6, then rebooted.

After reboot, desktop icons are still 'de'.

Well, 5.2.2.6 and 5.2.2.3 are alpha releases, there must have been something odd in them that upset the version upgrade of the save-file.

Oh yes, there was, the SSS translation method changed.

Now that the SSS stuff has settled down, upgrading of save-file should be ok.

Posted: **Fri 24 Feb 2012, 09:14**

Now that the SSS stuff has settled down, upgrading of save-file should be ok.

Aaaah! Seems to be a "Bingo!" - thanks Barry!

Posted: **Fri 24 Feb 2012, 10:12**

BarryK wrote:...
No problem, retrovol is now managed by MoManager, you need to get retrovol.pot from here:
http://bkhome.org/fossil/woof2.cgi/info/03d04c2cc3

I have got the retrovol.pot now

translation is offered in momanager now

but geany has opened an empty /tmp/retrovol.po

# ls -l /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/retrovol.mo
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6514 2012-02-22 20:48 /usr/share/locale/de/LC_MESSAGES/retrovol.mo
#

Or is there a momanager newer than mine? : #1202120 need ..

Posted: **Sat 25 Feb 2012, 03:11**

I compiled and made a sfs file of vlc-2.0.0.
I tested it in the new racy-5.2.2.7 beta on a pc with a nvidia
graphics card and a netbook with ati hd4200 graphics.

The pc with the nvidia card needed at least the nouveau driver
installed, it works fine with the proprietary nvidia driver too.
The netbook with the ati hd4200 worked fine with the vesa driver or
the proprietary ati driver.

The vlc-2.0.0-i686-racy.sfs file also has the vlc_NLS-2.0.0-i686.pet
and the qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.8.0-i686.pet included in it.

This new 2.0.0 version has support for dvb but I haven't tested that.

It should work in recent racy and wary releases.

EDIT: The dvb support isn't working.

The download link is:

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-70486827.html

Posted: **Sat 25 Feb 2012, 03:18**

just installed both on my 'new' box, noticed the glade (devx) icon is missing

again. Both started ok without problems

though, which is nice for once with me

. Now to play!

Posted: **Sat 25 Feb 2012, 10:58**

/usr/sbin/momanager: line 1284: [: edit_xml: unary operator expected

Code: Select all

#  if [ "$EXIT" "edit_xml" ];then
  if [ "$EXIT" = "edit_xml" ];then # fix

Posted: **Sat 25 Feb 2012, 12:27**

/usr/local/Apps/ROX-Filer/Options.xml is opened in geany.

I have no idea how to proceed

Edit `ROX-Filer/Options.xml' so that your language is listed, restart the filer and select it from the Options box (see the Translations section).

quoted from
http://rox.sourceforge.net/Manual/Manua ... .html#i18n

I have rox.mo available.
Have tried it
copied into
/usr/local/Apps/ROX-Filer/Messages/de/LC_MESSAGE
moved to
/usr/local/Apps/ROX-Filer/Messages/de.mo
and
/usr/local/Apps/ROX-Filer/Messages/de.gmo

without success.

I think all (I have checked some) translations for this Options.xml are in the mo file.

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edited:
After restart of X (

) options are translated

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yet another edit

This is what made me restart X:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=76281

Posted: **Sun 26 Feb 2012, 00:34**

BarryK wrote:
mave wrote:This Racy with internationalization changes seems to be great - thanks Barry!

Did updates from 5.2.2.6 to 5.2.2.3 on three machines. Every time german localization of desktop-icons falled back to english (menu entries okay).

Can't see why...

mave
I just did a test. Running 5.2.2.7, I changed to de_DE, then edited /etc/DISTRO_SPECS and changed the version back to 5.2.2.6, then rebooted.

After reboot, desktop icons are still 'de'.

Well, 5.2.2.6 and 5.2.2.3 are alpha releases, there must have been something odd in them that upset the version upgrade of the save-file.

Oh yes, there was, the SSS translation method changed.

Now that the SSS stuff has settled down, upgrading of save-file should be ok.

Ah, the falling-back-to-English problem occurs when you change the SFS layers, such as loading the 'devx' SFS.

The problem is in /etc/rc.d/rc.update and has now been fixed.

Posted: **Sun 26 Feb 2012, 00:43**

L18L wrote:/usr/sbin/momanager: line 1284: [: edit_xml: unary operator expected
Code: Select all
#  if [ "$EXIT" "edit_xml" ];then
  if [ "$EXIT" = "edit_xml" ];then # fix

Thanks, fixed!

I don't know how I manage to have such dumb typos sometimes!

...I guess that coding 10+ hours straight might be a contributing factor!

Posted: **Sun 26 Feb 2012, 07:29**

Samba for wary/racy

With the Samba Simple Setup gui

samba_full-3.5.12-wary-racy.pet 36M

It's the full enchilada with docs and dev. It's still large split so I left it all in... libs and bins are stripped.

Code: Select all

./configure --prefix=/usr --enable-swat --enable-cups --localstatedir=/var --sysconfdir=/etc --with-statedir=/var/locks --with-configdir=/etc/samba

It would need inetd server for SWAT functionality. I didn't compile that.

3.6X wont compile due to older glibc, but this is as of Oct 2011, so recent enough.

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