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another issue I found. While trying to install my IRC client I accidently updated libc.so.6, which propmtly crashed the system. Since it was a sudden failure... it wasnt saved into the safe file. However after rebooting, all of the drive labels are off. I can mount the drives like normal, but the labels are for the wrong drive. IE clicking on the icon that says 'Drive A' but insteads opens up the drive 'Drive B' Upon boot the drives were assigned other drive devices... What was once /dev/sdd1 is now /dev/sde1. But the drive labels are still showing what label the drive hadon prior boot.

Ok maybe that explaintion was all confusing... let me try again.

When my system was running...
the Drive @ /dev/sdd1 had the label of Z-Stor
the Drive @ /dev/sde1 had the label of Y-Stor
the Drive @ /dev/sdf1 had the label of W-Stor

Upon reboot however...
the Drive @ /dev/sdd1 has the label of W-Stor, (but shows on the desktop and in the file manager as Z-Stor, but opens and shows the files that are on /dev/sdd1)
the Drive @ /dev/sde1 has the label of Z-Stor, (but shows on the desktop and in the file manager as Y-Stor)
the Drive @ /dev/sdf1 has the label of Y-Stor, (but shows on the desktop and in the file manager as W-Stor)

The drive labels are showing based on what the drives were at last boot... not this one.
How often does this information refresh itself? Where is it saved?

Lastly... what version of GLibC does LHP514 have?

My Live Media operations using Mariner.

One item that I cannot seem to navigate around is the subsequent booting after initial setup of Mariner.

Initial boot

• I select SFS files for system's use on the SFS configuration section during boot.
• At desktop, I set localization
• I get a Boot Manager screen which seems logical for subsequent boots that will occur
• After selecting PETS that I may also want, I then do a reboot where my session is saved to DVD.

On subsequent Reboots of the DVD
I am unexpectedly presented with the SFS configuration section on each boot requiring that I tell which SFS files I want to use

Question

• When system is 1st started (initially) and the SFSs are loaded: When I do a "session save to DVD", is the SFSs/PETs functionality added at boot and during the session, included on the save-session?
• When the Boot Manager screen (see below) ask for subsequent SFS processing, does this apply equally to my Live media system's boot and operations?

Thanks in advance for any help

[quote="Q5sys"
Thats a known issue issue with Rox. It hangs up trying to read the empty files in /proc.
The version in LHP is 2.1, but you can read from comments on here that from v2.6 on its not an issue... offical rox site though only has 2.1 as the latest... so I have no clue about that one.

Thank you for information. I had not encounted it in all the years. My liitle fix seems to have not shown any problems so-far as I know

I am having a problem with a wireless issue.

This has been moved to here. as a result of Barry's recent reply to a related problem.

I love Lighthouse 64, and am trying to make it do what I need. There are issues:

First, this is an i3 "thin client" DVD-load desktop, now (!) with an HD 6570 video card, and 8GB RAM. Having a lot of RAM obviously is helpful in diskless systems. The system basically works great, and the 3D screensaver graphics are now smooth.

Note: I think we need another description beyond "Live CD/DVD," because Puppy (and, thus, Lighthouse 64) differs from other distros: For the others, LiveCD means keeping the CD in the drive and slowly accessing it to load and run applications. This is very different from an initial load into RAM, which I would describe as "DVD-load."

1. Puppy 5.2.5 has Guvcview webcam viewer to select camera and resolution in USB webcams. Does Lighthouse 64 have anything for that?

2. Puppy 5.2.5 has Abiword which will properly load .wpd (WordPerfect) documents. Those documents do not load in Lighthouse 64 Abiword. In our case, we have text archives stretching back about 25 years, and backward compatibility is one reason Microsoft Windows kept hanging on.

3. Lighthouse 64 Sys-Info reports my CPU speed as 1200MHz, but Hardinfo reports 3.07GHz (which my BIOS supports). CPU Frequency Scaling Tool also incorrectly reports 1200MHz.

4. Now (finally!) having enough RAM, I would like to be able to make a FULL copy of an existing MULTI-SESSION DVD, as opposed to re-creating a new version.

Thank you so much for this wonderful OS!

Hi TaZoC,

I'm still thoroughly enjoying LHP64-514 b4 using frugal installations on three different computers with the KDE desktop, however, I have discovered a few more problems.

1. On a Windows computer, Grub4dos configuration running in LHP with a frugal installation on an NTFS partition cannot find any frugal installations on the computer. (There are four frugal installations.) All that's located is Windows.

Incidentally, LHP ran without being shut down for over a week on this computer and had only one other problem, a dropped WIFI connection, which was probably due to week signal strength.

2. On another system, using 01micko's get_libreoffice-0.12.pet in LHP64-514b4 to generate LibreOffice-3.4.4_64_en-US.sfs, the sfs appears to work fine except for printing. Version 3.3.4 prepared with the get_libreoffice-0.12.pet earlier using LHP64-512 works fine including printing. I believe this same problem showed up in LHP64-512.

I hope that you are feeling better and will be completely healed.

Regards,
Jim

Jim1911 wrote: ...
2. On another system, using 01micko's get_libreoffice-0.12.pet in LHP64-514b4 to generate LibreOffice-3.4.4_64_en-US.sfs, the sfs appears to work fine except for printing. Version 3.3.4 prepared with the get_libreoffice-0.12.pet earlier using LHP64-512 works fine including printing. I believe this same problem showed up in LHP64-512. ...

Hi @Jim1911, I run couple of Live media LH64-514B4 as a normal production models. This is my experience with LibreOffice.

I use the Mariner version. (So even though this may not apply to your usage.)
On Initial boot, I manually selected, Chromium SFS, Java SFS, LibreOffice SFS, and couple others during the SFS selection cycle. All is fine. (you may want to try it).

All is well, including print. But, I do have an annoyance where on reboots, the system pauses at SFS selection. I would have thought that after the 1st "save-session to CD", it would have built the packages into the system/session which would negate the rerunning of the SFS selection. But, aside from he annoyance on boot, the system is brilliantly stable

Libreoffice is available to you via the Update icon on the desktop as well as via the PPM (I think...never looked though).

Hope this is useful information.

Just a quick comment to note that Graphic / XSane image scanner complains about running as ROOT: "that really is DANGEROUS!"

Perhaps overly dramatic, but I guess XSane probably ought to come up in spot.

And now that the topic comes up, we need a summary of the rules for spot, and how to do what one might want to do. I recently had a download which I wanted to copy to a USB flashdrive and had trouble. Eventually I got around it. But it is hardly unexpected that someone used to the old Puppy scheme could get into trouble with spot.

Sadly, streaming netflix probably is out of the question, so I still have to keep Microsoft Windows alive on the entertainment system. But if I could figure out how to compile Free Pascal for Lighthouse 64, I think I would be a happy camper!

RandSec wrote: ... now that the topic comes up, we need a summary of the rules for spot, and how to do what one might want to do. ...

Just today, Barry seems to be addressing this alternate userID issue(s).

Although many will object, maybe a login approach might be more appropriate.

Hope this helps

gcmartin wrote:Although many will object, maybe a login approach might be more appropriate.

Before I voice my usual mindless objections, perhaps you could describe what you hope to solve: What weakness exists, and how would a login control it?

Hi Taz,
I set 514 up on my older 64 bit desktop - an AMD chip @ 1800 Ghz with Radeon graphics.
I needed to run Xorgwizard to get the full resolution for my 1680x1050 screen but no problems after selecting Radeon option.
This system has a parallel printer attached - HP LaserJet 6P - which other versions of Lighthouse recognize but no joy with 514. Asking it to look for printers returns "no printers found" message. I tried adding it as a serial printer (the only option) but still didn't work.

Other things - It's very slow (15 to 20 seconds) to show the initial screen on boot up after the last "starting xwin" (or something like that) message. I'm running compiz desktop which probably slows things down but other versions don't take so long.

Sys-info file attached.
B.

Hi TaZoC,

Haven't heard from you for awhile, hope that it's just due to other priorities, and not because of the illness you mentioned. You are missed.

Frugal installations on 2 desktops and 1 laptop with LHP 64-514B4 as primary OS with a KDE desktop are all running fine. However, all 3 only print properly with LibreOffice-3.3.4_64_en-US.sfs as I reported earlier for a desktop.. Later stable versions work fine except for printing on all 3.

Still enjoying 514.

Regards,
Jim

I apologize for any inconvenience, still not feeling well and very behind with PMs and forum etc... I hope to resume work on Lighthouse 64, but I really don't know if or when.

Am hanging in there, maybe a little better last few days. It's hard to concentrate, make decisions and I'm grumpy/sleepy most of the day. Have been seeing doctor/nurse regularly and slowly getting readjusted to medications/dosage.

Thank you for your concern and patience,
TaZoC

Thank you tazoc,for this great app!
I am enjoying it very much,but there is one problem...
I can't add serbian language to keyboard layot.. Please help! When I add "serbian" to keyboard layots,nothing happens. I tried several times,but unfortunately,without sucess.
Please help!
Thank you very much for your efforts!

Hi TaZoC!

You should know that others consider your work impressive and beneficial. It will be a great loss if you cannot continue.

The screensaver graphics are surprisingly important in Lighthouse 64. I know someone can just pick those up if desired, but as part of the package it argues that the operating system is more than just app support, it actually has things of interest to ordinary people. The colors are vibrant, the motion fluid, and the world rotating backwards is thought-provoking.

I have tried probably a dozen Puppies over the years (only a small part of the total), but have been as happy with Lighthouse 64 as any. It just feels like a better design. Lighthouse 64 is my current suggestion to those who ask me for a platform for their online banking, a secure alternative to Microsoft Windows.

Please get well soon!

RandSec

Hi all,

Just installed Lighthouse 64 5.14.2 Beta 4 yesterday. It's absolutely brilliant!

I noticed that the shutdown would hang right during/after acpid:Exiting. i let it sit for about 15min-20min before deciding it wasnt going to proceed further. cntrl-c'd out and did a shutdown -a now. which borked the usb thumbdrive (which i was booted from) as it would no longer boot. after several clean reinstalls to the thumbdrive, i think i have narrowed it down to reboots/shutdowns with a NFS share(s) mounted. this morning i was only able to test once, but unmounting the NFS share(s) allowed a clean shutdown and a valid savefile to be created. I will try it several more times, but i believe this to be the culprit at this time.

I'm not overly familiar with Puppies, enough that i was able to get around, install drivers and pets just fine. Is this an issue with all puppies? I did briefly test last night with fatdog (latest) and had the same problem. Went back to Lighthouse to troubleshoot.

Just something I did, or something that's in Puppy(s)? Can i just put in some unmount lines in /etc/rc.d/shutdown (running on memory there, whatever the shutdown script is) to unmount NFS's?

Any thoughts on this are greatly appreciated. And thanks Tazoc for Lighthouse!!

EDIT: This was a manual mount, so there was no entry in a fstab or anything. Not sure if that makes a difference.

umount -a -t nfs might work with Puppy busybox umount.
I believe you can place it to suitable location in /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown.

Tazoc,

Thanks for Lighthouse. I added it to my Fatdog machine just because, and am very impressed.

Started with a full install to a partition, but that didn't work out so well, so I switched to a frugal and it seems to run like a champ. Fast and stable.

Having trouble getting VB to install, but that's probably just me (haven't figured it out in Fatdog either ).

Hope you get to feeling better.

Eathray

frugal install of the Mariner version to ext4 hdd. auto detected wl driver and made wifi connection on eth1.

able to convert browsers to run as root, update ff to ver.10. all persistent through reboot.

very lovely desktop and artwork. thank you for the hard work.

Dammit Tazoc - you are a leading light on the forums. My Best Wishes for your full recovery.