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@ttuuxxx

I really like this little app and I'm in the process of mirroring it on my domain, but I was wondering if you could clarify a couple things for me first.

The first post has two versions, that's pretty self explanatory. But then there is a wordgrinder_0.3.1-1.2-2.pet posted with sakura 1 (another great one, btw).

I assume the 0.3.1 version is a later version than that posted at the top of the thread, but does it require sakura to run or just for the font tweaking capabilities? How do the two apps depend on each other?

Sully

naaa sakura is just an option, you type wordgrinder in sakura and it opens with sakura, if you don't have sakura installed then it just defaults to rxvt like usual
ttuuxxx

okay, that makes sense.. its sakura's capabilities that make it more... flexible.

Thanks ttuuxxx

Another console based word processor you can look at is SUE (Simple Unix Editor).

Way back in the 80's, a chap named Eric Meyer was developing for the CP/M OS that ran on Osbornes and other old 8-bit systems. He started with a minimal editor released in source by another developer called VDO and started enhancing it. VDO became VDE, a CP/M editor that used the WordStar command set, had macros (which WordStar then did not), but was smaller and faster than WordStar itself, since it ran entirely in memory and didn't use overlay files. That limited the total size of a document you could edit, but it wasn't an issue for most users.

Eric shifted to MS-DOS, and continued to develop VDE. He still develops and supports the DOS version, and I run it here in a console window under WinXP. CP/M development was picked up by Carson Wilson, who renamed it ZDE and continued to enhance it. Carson was also the lead developer for a Linux console editor that would be nassed on VDE's design. VDE and ZDE were coded in Assembler, and SUE is coded in C, so it's not a direct port - it's a rewrite for a new OS.

It's a single static binary with no dependencies, weighing in at 327K. You can drop it in a directory in your Linux PATH and start using it. It runs fine here in a console in rxvt or XCFE Terminal.

A binary is here, with man page:
http://sites.google.com/site/vdeeditor/ ... on/sue.zip

C source is here, reported to compile out of the box on Solaris:
http://sites.google.com/site/vdeeditor/ ... sue07i.tgz

Info and history is here:
http://sites.google.com/site/vdeeditor/ ... ue-history

And the Man page is here:
http://sites.google.com/site/vdeeditor/ ... e-man-page

The default is the WordStar command set, but there's a function-key driven mode as well.

More information abut and downloads of VDE, ZDE, and related utilities and files are at the VDE Editor home page:
http://sites.google.com/site/vdeeditor/Home
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Dennis

Thanks, I've just downloaded this one. VDE (the DOS relative of this) is/was an amazing little editor / word processor for its size.

ttuuxxx wrote:

jakfish wrote:You da man here. I don't know how difficult to re-position, but it is a little odd that the cursor places itself in the screen's middle, rather than the top (that may be a programer's favorite position, I wouldn't know--or else I'm doing something completely asinine upon start-up).

edit: on further thought, since there's no drop-down menu (the screen becomes the menu), maybe that's where the cursor must begin.

Jake

Ok here's a newer version that supports new text formats,lol
anyways install the pet, then install sakura, open sakura and right click on the desktop, set you font size, color etc. This will work with any command line application, Sakura is a great terminal, you can also change the font while running wordgrinder.

To Start:
Open Sakura and Just type wordgrinder and hit enter and it will start.
now right click on the screen and you'll have lots of sakura options
ttuuxxx

How do I get to the mainmenu for wordgrinder and how do I save what I have done?

I am using ov-precise5.2.60

Thanks

Double-tap the 'esc' key or hit alt+m works for me.

It booted to a larger window than my little screen in UpUp Precise. No big deal, just a note. Wordgrinder brings me back to the early 90's, when I used a database program in MS Dos that had similar aspects. Does anyone know of a database program in puppy that runs similar to the Wordgrinder program out of terminal?

Anyway, I lose focus. Nice little program.

Wordgrinder 4 is ready.

New features:

- new, smaller file format.
- OpenDocument import and export.
- A proper Windows version and installer.
- command line tools for converting documents to/from WordGrinder.
- many bugfixes.

The author was good enough to send me a preview but some of the dependencies have caught me out.
" ( But the new features sound good so I'll wait for the official release.

under ibus-hangul, wordgrinder can register texts in Hangul (=Korean) mode in the console!

how to print them with success with Cups?

I did save the file as test.txt

with the commando line command in console

lp -d fritz.box test.txt

the printer did print a paper page with the info:

WordGrinder dumpfile v2: this is not a text file!
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if I save in wordgrinder without some extension, wordgrinder adds the extension
wg probably the short name for WordGrinder.

cups accept also that command with the new extension but print only a lot of blank pages and you must interrupt it manually.

fritz.box is a special name: it is the name dedicated by the software from the most usual German IAD for USB connected printer accessible by all client of the local network of the home phone ans small communication system

wordgrinder_0.3.3-1_i386.deb.pet

wordgrinder_0.3.3-1_amd64.pet

32 bit contains relevant files from:
liblua5.1-0_5.1.5-4+deb7u1_i386.deb lua-filesystem_1.5.0+16+g84f1af5-1_i386.deb wordgrinder_0.3.3-1_i386.deb

64 bit contains:
liblua5.1-0_5.1.5-4+deb7u1_amd64.deb lua-filesystem_1.5.0+16+g84f1af5-1_amd64.deb wordgrinder_0.3.3-1_amd64.deb

both contain:
wordgrinder.desktop (wordgrinder launched with urxvt), wordgrinder-rxvt.desktop, wordgrinder-sk.desktop (wordgrinder launched with sakura)

64 bit tested in tahr64-605, 32 bit in xenial32-704