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Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 11:36
by WhoDo
tasmod wrote:... if you have asked for decorum on rc2 thread, then I applaud you.
I did a fraction more than just "ask", Rob. I don't know if it will do any good, but I couldn't let it roll through any longer the way it was going. I want you, Zigbert, trio and 01micko to know that, whatever else is said by the vocal minority around here, I appreciate all the effort you guys have put into the 4.2 project and it WILL be reflected in the product I release.

Sometimes members of the Puppy forum community forget that there are way more users of Puppy than the ones who post here regularly. One such user has only posted 7 times since 2005, and another was recently prompted to make only his second post since he started using Puppy 2.xx some time back. There are many more that have never posted and one of those has recently written the best review of Puppy's capabilities I have yet seen. We really are only the very tip of the iceberg here (analogy especially for Sigmund :P ).

That should give you guys heart; to know that your hard work will NOT go unrecognised and nor will the harmony and support you share in the Pwidgets team. Thank you all for that.

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 11:43
by tasmod
Thanks WhoDo, much appreciated.

The 'fun' was going out of it for us and I'm enjoying it so much just now.

Zigberts contributions when I look thru Puppy are very numerous and not to be derided. I think he writes succinct code.

In the 'old' days when ram was precious you were taught to do things miserly. I once managed to fit a simple word processor and printer routine in 5k. Even then I was told it was too flashy :lol:

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 11:44
by 01micko
WhoDo wrote:
tasmod wrote:... if you have asked for decorum on rc2 thread, then I applaud you.
I did a fraction more than just "ask", Rob. I don't know if it will do any good, but I couldn't let it roll through any longer the way it was going. I want you, Zigbert, trio and 01micko to know that, whatever else is said by the vocal minority around here, I appreciate all the effort you guys have put into the 4.2 project and it WILL be reflected in the product I release.

Sometimes members of the Puppy forum community forget that there are way more users of Puppy than the ones who post here regularly. One such user has only posted 7 times since 2005, and another was recently prompted to make only his second post since he started using Puppy 2.xx some time back. There are many more that have never posted and one of those has recently written the best review of Puppy's capabilities I have yet seen. We really are only the very tip of the iceberg here (analogy especially for Sigmund :P ).

That should give you guys heart; to know that your hard work will NOT go unrecognised and nor will the harmony and support you share in the Pwidgets team. Thank you all for that.
TY for your support too, WhoDo 8)

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 11:56
by trio
Whodo

You're a big sport! You don't even have to apologize for what others did. !But anyway, my sincere thanks and off course all accepted. We stop it here, don't go further or I'll cry...

Ps: what you just did on the 4.2 thread is wise...very wise..

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 12:00
by WhoDo
tasmod wrote:In the 'old' days when ram was precious you were taught to do things miserly. I once managed to fit a simple word processor and printer routine in 5k. Even then I was told it was too flashy :lol:
Yes, I remember. I learned serious programming in VAXBasic using a VT100 terminal and a maximum of 32k of space for both compiler and program code. We considered ourselves "spoiled" at having so much room to work when the entire main frame hard drive was only 5Mb. :roll:

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 12:17
by zigbert
Rob wrote:just doing a poll. Hope this is right 'Hvor gamle er du'
Jeg er trettifire år. Hope your translator works both ways :D



Our thanks should go to Warren who actually builds the next Puppy.

Warren, we never finished our pwidgets-size-war :)


Sigmund

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 12:23
by tasmod
Hmmm, size war.

"Mines bigger than yours hey " 8)

Trying translator now Z. (Sounds like line from Men in Black)

We have Z, M, T, R. Now here's my dark glasses 8)

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 12:31
by tasmod
Ahh got it! seperate 'tretti fire' translates OK.

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 12:42
by tasmod
At the moment I've had to do a fresh RC2 install due to a corrupted pupsave. Not sure what happened but 1.9.9 seemed to fall out with me.

I'm on 1.9.5. not changing anything until I reload my widgets.

I lost Moon and Alarm development work. But this morning found copies on my Win PC, not quite up to date but still workable. Alarm though well behind what i had done, virtual restart.

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 12:47
by tasmod
Hmm, all me at moment. sorry.

Loaded 1.9.10 onto other machine and same problem, two clocks!

same problem, clicking up arrow loads theme window.

Will try a fresh install on that one too.

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 12:50
by trio
Guys

I'm retiring for tonite, enough bling war for the day..hh..cee yaa

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 13:11
by 01micko
Ziggy

"All's fair in love and war"... I don't know who said it.

Trio

"you got the focus"... said by some bloke, probably Norweigan, on another totally unrelated thread...

WhoDo

" Can you include (insert rant here)"... tooo many to mention have said/asked that!

Tasmod

"Hmmmm, size war".. said by you, meant by you..

01micko

"Are we there yet?" asked by me, I am a deer with no eyes.

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 15:11
by zigbert
Ahh got it! seperate 'tretti fire' translates OK.
Clever :)

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 15:14
by zigbert
2 clocks is possible because of /root/Startup/. Trio pointed that the startup scripts are executed alphabetically so 'show_widgets' is not the best name. Changed to 0_show_widgets. If you upgrade an already installed Pwidgets, you'll now have 2 startup scripts. No problem for Puppy 4.2.


Sigmund

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 15:15
by zigbert
"Are we there yet?" asked by me, I am a deer with no eyes.
Yes, my friend. We're really close, - because of you.


Sigmund

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 19:56
by zigbert
Rob
Maybe I have missed it, but I don't know your full name. I'm writing credits for the Pwidgets about-dialog, and want to include full name of the 'TEAM Pwidgets' members.


Sigmund

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 20:48
by tasmod
Not been mentioned before, it's Robert Lane

The avatar is cuneiform writing of my name.

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 20:57
by WhoDo
zigbert wrote:Warren, we never finished our pwidgets-size-war :)
Yes. I haven't surrended, I've just made a strategic withdrawal so I can gather my troops for a final onslaught! :lol:

I'm wondering whether the difference between our two figures may be because I'm taking mine from a raw partition outside the LZMA'd squash file system and yours are from within? :?

Either way, I'm very happy with what you guys have done with Pwidgets and have no doubt they will cause a stir in the wider community when 4.2 is released.

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 21:01
by tasmod
I altered your shutdown dialog version slightly for my personal use.

Removed, lock. Does anyone actually use that?

Added restart X and new Restart JWM to front menu, put 'switch to icewm' to 'advanced' menu 8)


I tidied my pwidgets files, too many empty sed*** files.

May I suggest a slight alteration. tmp (folder) is heavily used by all, writing new tmp (file) on the fly with func removes some useful info. Perhaps use different unique file names, avoiding confusion ?

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 21:11
by zigbert
Robert
Thank you.
I'm keepin' an eye on the empty sed files.


Sigmund