The Official Release of Lucid 5.25 (Lucid Five Twenty-Five)

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maik.murks · #1421 Post by **maik.murks** » Thu 14 Apr 2011, 10:17

ASRI éducation wrote:
maik.murks wrote:... I think also, that sometimes it seems to be better to test or check out something for yourself - before writing about it....
@ maik.murks
Thank you for your advice.
In my defense, I can say that I test before offering solutions. In addition to your solution, I proposed charlie6 to add wallpaper in /usr/share/backgrounds_original/ORIGINAL-default.jpg because I found that when the distribution of crashes (caused by children who left click too fast) it happens that restores the Puppy wallpaper ORIGINAL-default.jpg
Indicating that solution, I did not attracting the wrath of the "gentleman I know better than others. "
I leave the specialist that you are solving this problem.

LOL

ICPUG · #1422 Post by **ICPUG** » Thu 14 Apr 2011, 12:07

This thread was started to provide the interaction with the community needed to develop the lucis towards Lucid 5.2.5.

That task is complete. Playdayz has gone.

Can we now respect that and stop using this thread. The discussions now going on here are more suited elsewhere.

Bugs can be reported to the 5.2.5 bug thread in the bugs forum.

Security issues in Puppy can be discussed in the security forum. I suggest Randsec starts a thread there and we can really thrash it out.

As to what should be in the next Puppy it is all hot air until we have a developer to take the helm and guide the community to its next goal. When that person appears then I hope they will start a thread and involve the community as much as Playdayz did.

With that I say:

All hail to Puppy 5.2.5
All hail to Playdayz, 01micko
All hail to the contributors

01micko · #1423 Post by **01micko** » Thu 14 Apr 2011, 12:26

ICPUG wrote:This thread was started to provide the interaction with the community needed to develop the lucis towards Lucid 5.2.5.

That task is complete. Playdayz has gone.

Can we now respect that and stop using this thread. The discussions now going on here are more suited elsewhere.

Bugs can be reported to the 5.2.5 bug thread in the bugs forum.

Security issues in Puppy can be discussed in the security forum. I suggest Randsec starts a thread there and we can really thrash it out.

As to what should be in the next Puppy it is all hot air until we have a developer to take the helm and guide the community to its next goal. When that person appears then I hope they will start a thread and involve the community as much as Playdayz did.

With that I say:

All hail to Puppy 5.2.5
All hail to Playdayz, 01micko
All hail to the contributors

Thanks ICPUG (and I'm sure I speak on behalf of Larry aka playdayz)

For those concerned...

Puppy has "superscan" network scanner..

Puppy has the command "netstat"

These can be used to assess your vulnerability. Search if you like.

With Puppy comes Power. You can use it. Fear not.

nooby · #1424 Post by **nooby** » Thu 14 Apr 2011, 12:36

+1 to all of you

I am all for that security should be talked about under that banner.
I am sorry if I failed to live up to expectations .

Brown Mouse · #1425 Post by **Brown Mouse** » Thu 14 Apr 2011, 13:04

wuxiandianzi wrote:
bigpup wrote:
wuxiandianzi wrote: to playdayz
HI playdayz
Ifind that big bugs in puppy 5.25
I have 3 partions"sda1 sda2 sda3 "all with ext3 farmat.
I have installed it on sda1 with grub. It can boot well ,but can not load savefiles.
this some thing in init that not seache ext3 hdd.
I do not know why.
It can load savefile on fat/ntfs/fat32. only not on ext3/ext2
How did you install Puppy 5.25?
Does it make a save file on shutdown?
Are there other save files on computer?
bigpup:
James C:
I install puppy by frugal on ext3 hdd with grub.all seems run well and can save lupusave.sfs in sda1 when shutdown.but it will not load savefile whenm boot again.
There is no other savefile in hdd.

I saw a similar problem when installing 525 to an older Dell Laptop.
It created a savfile at shutdown but never found or loaded it when rebooting.
In the end I turned to 511 and that worked fine on that particular machine.

chrismt · #1426 Post by **chrismt** » Thu 14 Apr 2011, 13:42

I don't know much about the workings of Linux but I would like to suggest something, i wonder if it makes sense

In Windows 7, whenever an application tries to run, it pops up a screen and asks us if we want to allow it to run or not?

I was thinking, if a similar system can be adopted in puppy so that whenever something runs, it pops a dialog and asks whether to allow it or not

So, people who are scared to run as root will feel confident as they are allowing each process to happen with their permission and whats not there in the whitelist they can deny or research

There can be whitelists and blacklists.......with option to add or remove

A similar kind of thing can be made with the firewall

Just what I am thinking ok, nothing much...

nooby · #1427 Post by **nooby** » Thu 14 Apr 2011, 15:34

But we are supposed to talk about this in the security section of the forum

I trust it is the built in firewall that do such popup messages. such exists for linux too

bigpup · #1428 Post by **bigpup** » Thu 14 Apr 2011, 16:29

wuwei wrote:
bigpup wrote:
wuxiandianzi wrote:

to playdayz
HI playdayz
Ifind that big bugs in puppy 5.25
I have 3 partions"sda1 sda2 sda3 "all with ext3 farmat.
I have installed it on sda1 with grub. It can boot well ,but can not load savefiles.
this some thing in init that not seache ext3 hdd.
I do not know why.
It can load savefile on fat/ntfs/fat32. only not on ext3/ext2

How did you install Puppy 5.25?
Does it make a save file on shutdown?
Are there other save files on computer?
Please post content of /boot/grub/menu.lst
The problem might be in there.

Do you have a pfix=ram entry in your Grub menu.lst?

rsanders · #1429 Post by **rsanders** » Thu 14 Apr 2011, 17:05

I've been trying to dig around and see what the rationale was for the "Stay connected to internet" setting, since if it existed on previous Puppies (5.1, 5.1.1, 5.2.0) I never knew because I never needed it before. But now I face the same problem as the fellow quoted below.

I've come up dry thus far, however, in finding out an answer . . . partially because some of my searching time was spent reconnecting to the internet.

MinHundHettePerro wrote:
playdayz wrote:
I lost internet connection quite a few times, something which never occured before . Had to re-configure, both with network wizard and sns. And, I'm on wired broadband internet through my router, here - just never happened before in any other puppy.
Have you tried Menu -> Internet -> Stay Connected to internet?
Hello !
No, I haven't, the thought never crossed my mind, since I'm used to Staying Connected to the Internet .

Next time I try lupu525, I will most probably not try it either . But, I will look for the cause of the lost connection, though (at a frequency of once every 5-15 min., especially if there were periods of network-inactivity).

Cheers /
MHHP

peebee · #1430 Post by **peebee** » Thu 14 Apr 2011, 18:39

rsanders wrote:I've been trying to dig around and see what the rationale was for the "Stay connected to internet" setting, since if it existed on previous Puppies (5.1, 5.1.1, 5.2.0) I never knew because I never needed it before. But now I face the same problem as the fellow quoted below.

Hi rsanders

This little process goes into your startup folder and pings the internet on a regular basis - it is only needed for some wifi configurations under lucid puppy that seem to drop their connections after a period of time. I've got a laptop with this problem so I was pleased to see an official "bodge" as I had a very similar home grown unofficial bodge....

If you don't have the problem then activating the bodge will have no impact adverse or otherwise other than consuming a tiny bit of cpu power.

Initial discussion was here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=63004
and then here on page 74 http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 527c3207d4

Cheers
Peter

mikeslr · #1431 Post by **mikeslr** » Thu 14 Apr 2011, 18:58

Hi all,

I apologize if this has been mentioned before: I've only read thru page 90, and you're up to 96, and I don't recall anything mentioned prior to page 90.
Sometimes while in one version of Puppy I want to check what's available in PPM for another. At any rate, while in Lucid 5.25, I wanted to check the Quirky repo. Configured PPM to show it, updated, exited and restarted. The Quirky repo didn't appear. Tried a couple of times. No dice. Out of curiousity, also tried to configure PPM to show other repos. Wary also won't show up.
I can understand if this was a built in safety precaution as Wary Apps probably won't run in Lucid, but I thought some Quirky apps might. Additionally, the repos for 2, 3, and 4 do show up.
No big deal, but I thought I'd mention it.

mikesLr

James C · #1432 Post by **James C** » Fri 15 Apr 2011, 06:33

chrismt wrote:I don't know much about the workings of Linux but I would like to suggest something, i wonder if it makes sense

In Windows 7, whenever an application tries to run, it pops up a screen and asks us if we want to allow it to run or not?

I was thinking, if a similar system can be adopted in puppy so that whenever something runs, it pops a dialog and asks whether to allow it or not

So, people who are scared to run as root will feel confident as they are allowing each process to happen with their permission and whats not there in the whitelist they can deny or research

There can be whitelists and blacklists.......with option to add or remove

A similar kind of thing can be made with the firewall

Just what I am thinking ok, nothing much...

I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who turned that stuff off.

chrismt · #1433 Post by **chrismt** » Fri 15 Apr 2011, 08:57

James C wrote:
chrismt wrote:I don't know much about the workings of Linux but I would like to suggest something, i wonder if it makes sense

In Windows 7, whenever an application tries to run, it pops up a screen and asks us if we want to allow it to run or not?

I was thinking, if a similar system can be adopted in puppy so that whenever something runs, it pops a dialog and asks whether to allow it or not

So, people who are scared to run as root will feel confident as they are allowing each process to happen with their permission and whats not there in the whitelist they can deny or research

There can be whitelists and blacklists.......with option to add or remove

A similar kind of thing can be made with the firewall

Just what I am thinking ok, nothing much...
I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one who turned that stuff off.

But it was a security feature

I heard someone say in IRC that if I am going to do a full install, it is better to format the drive as ext3 because he said ext4 is not fully supported for full install

What does he mean? Is that the case?

nooby · #1434 Post by **nooby** » Fri 15 Apr 2011, 09:44

Chris

I know nothing but I do remember vaguely that in some circumstances it does not mount such. And on an old computer that I made experiment on then I had to reformat a partition to a lower version.

Do this

use the link in my sig and put in thease search words

puppy ext4

and you will see that there are threads about it from others too.

quote

I remember ext4 file system is supported by Puppy-4.3 and later. But the Puppy Universal Installer does not support frugal install on ext4 .

another quote
Current versions of puppy cannot mount the one ext4 partition that I have on this computer. That is except for the Wow's unnamed pup version ...

but those can be old. Check them out

chrome307 · #1435 Post by **chrome307** » Fri 15 Apr 2011, 10:05

I'm having problems attempting to install and run PeaZip

I have tried to install PeaZip 3.62 as a pet file and also tried PeaZip 3.7 GTK hosted on googlecode.com.

Has anyone else encounter this problem?

Better still any solution/advice?

thanks!

Sylvander · #1436 Post by **Sylvander** » Fri 15 Apr 2011, 10:42

I have PeaZip-3.6.2 installed within Lupu-525, and it appears to be functioning normally.

#1437 Post by **BÃ©Ã¨m** » Fri 15 Apr 2011, 10:49

chrome307 wrote:I'm having problems attempting to install and run PeaZip

I have tried to install PeaZip 3.62 as a pet file and also tried PeaZip 3.7 GTK hosted on googlecode.com.

Has anyone else encounter this problem?

Better still any solution/advice?

thanks!

If you want advice and/or solution, you have to describe in detail your problem.

chrome307 · #1438 Post by **chrome307** » Fri 15 Apr 2011, 11:53

RE: PeaZip

I installed the PET file from this thread:

PeaZip-3.6.2.pet

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=65366

and it created a menu item, under 'UTILITY, Peazip'

This failed to run, so I uninstalled it via the Puppy Package Manager, however it has left behind the item in the menu.

I then went to the PeaZip website and grabbed the portable version to try instead:

peazip_portable-3.7.LINUX.GTK2.tar.gz

http://code.google.com/p/peazip/downloa ... z&can=2&q=

This extracted OK, however when I click on the executable it fails to open. This isn't such as big deal as the whole directory can just be deleted.

Is there any additional information required?

nooby · #1439 Post by **nooby** » Fri 15 Apr 2011, 13:40

Thanks to Jason for testing it. So where does the OP find that Cogwheel?

Jasper · #1440 Post by **Jasper** » Fri 15 Apr 2011, 13:54

Hi,

I just downloaded the Linux Portable Version of PeaZip 3.7 from the source provided above.

It is working perfectly in my Lucid Puppy 5.2 mutisession DVD. All I had to do was click on the cog wheel.

My regards

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