Lucid Puppy 5.1- A Full-Featured Compact Distro

[smil99]

Hi playdayz & 01micko
xfce-4.6.2 in Quriky NOP-1.2 looks great. Very easy to tweak and familiar too for the windows refugee. Would you mind having it as an alternative WM in lupu?

As always, thanks for the good work and dedication.

Cheers.

[James C]

Old Windows 98 box......433 Celeron w/ 384 mb ram no swap.Lupu-507 live pfix=ram.

Initial display was so distorted I couldn't figure out what button to click.....there were three of each.
Three finger salute got me to xorgwizard, probe,1024x768x24 and all was good. Installed Xorg_High (graphics were detected) and Opera.....73 mb showing on taskbar.



VIDEO REPORT: Lucid Puppy, version 507

Chip description:
oem: ATI MACH64

Driver used by Xorg:
mach64

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 16 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#


-OpenGL-
Vendor : Mesa Project
Renderer : Software Rasterizer
Version : 2.1 Mesa 7.7.1
Direct Rendering : Yes


# glxgears
112 frames in 5.0 seconds
122 frames in 5.0 seconds
119 frames in 5.0 seconds
122 frames in 5.0 seconds


Already downloaded 508......time to do a quick frugal install.

[Billtoo]

I made a bootable usb drive with bootflash and installed the 508.iso to it.
I booted up 508 and was impressed with the new background and icons.
I did the wizard to run the alsa sound wizard and the firewall.
I did alsa mixer to set the levels and alsactl store to save them.
I downloaded the video driver for ati and restarted x.
I opened puppy package manager to configure it but selecting the repos and trying
to download the databases,then clicking on update didn't work.
I downloaded the devx and put it in mnt/home and rebooted but on reboot the screen
which asks which sfs files to use didn't come up.
I used the wizard to choose loading the devx at bootup and rebooted again.
I opened the package manager and the ubuntu databases were there, must be in the devx.
I compiled moc,weechat,and lxterminal.

At the second bootup I think, I clicked on the console icon and it didn't work, I
clicked on the rxvt in the utility menu and that didn't work either.I tried swithching
to icewm but it still didn't work.Another reboot cured it.
I'm not sure if it was working and quit (I ran alsa mixer in the console).

I will test 508 more but that's it so far.

[James C]

Fresh manual frugal install of Lupu-508 on the old P3 test box.Everything is simply working as expected.Installed Xorg-High, Firefox, Opera 10.60, Thunar and VLC so far................no problems.

Thumbs up for the new default look too.

[Stripe]

Hi all

Just downloaded and frugal installed 508 from a usb drive, all OK
New icons were a bit of a suprise
downloaded and installed the usual pets (all OK no missing dependancies and seem to work fine)

Just have 1 question, Is there any option to get the 4 desktops back on icewm as that in my opinion was its best feature and very useful when multi- tasking
Edited to say: sorry have just found it

But everything looks and sounds great, will keep testing
I think we are very nearly there, well done everybody
Stripe

[playdayz]

New icons were a bit of a suprise
downloaded and installed the usual pets (all OK no missing dependancies and seem to work fine)

Just have 1 question, Is there any option to get the 4 desktops back on icewm as that in my opinion was its best feature and very useful when multi- taskingstripe,

Desktop -> Desktop settings -> Icewm Configuration change icewm settings

The surprises are not over!

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BTW, I just added roxterm to the puppy-lucid repo of PPM. Someone had asked earlier for a terminal that used conventional right-click copy and paste. Right click and download this file and put it into /root/.packages to update the puppy-lucid repo (without waiting for all the ubuntu repos) Remove .txt after downloading.

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... d-official

[Stripe]

Hi all

Just downloaded and installed "Eudora" from the ppm and it is showing a list of missing dependencies
Edited to say: Seems to work OK. set up accountrs, incoming and outgoing mail all OK

Hope that helps
Stripe

[DaveS]

Couple of disappointments in this release:
Scrolling in Firefox garbles the display... will try xorg.high later (Update:fixed after re-boot)
Fn keys to increase/decrease screen brightness dont work in this release, did before.
Black text in window decoration (top bar, lower notification area etc cannot be seen with my poor eyesight, will change it to white.

Deja-Vu font shape is better in this release again

Here is a little upgrade: add this stupid bit of text to /.jwm/jwmrc-personal/ and the Fn keys for raising/lowering/muting volume, windows menu key for Jwm menu, and default browser/mail launch will work on most laptops.

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<Key keycode="160">exec:amixer sset Master toggle</Key>
<Key keycode="176">exec:amixer sset Master 1+,1+</Key>
<Key keycode="174">exec:amixer sset Master 1-,1-</Key>
<Key keycode="178">exec:defaultbrowser</Key>
<Key keycode="236">exec:defaultemail</Key>
<Key keycode="115">root:3</Key>

Re-start Jwm after adding of course.

[DaveS]

In the root directory you have .font.conf I think that should be .fonts.conf (plural) to make it work.

[DaveS]

Lots of real help re font configuration here:http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fon ... on#Hinting

This .fonts.conf works ok on my small laptop, though I am having trouble with jaggies in Rox:

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<fontconfig>
  <match target="font">
    <edit name="rgba" mode="assign">
      <const>rgb</const>
    </edit>
  </match>

  <match target="font">
    <edit name="hinting" mode="assign">
      <bool>true</bool>
    </edit>
  </match>

    <match target="font">
    <edit name="hintstyle" mode="assign">
      <const>hintslight</const>
    </edit>
  </match>

</fontconfig> 

[smokey01]

508 is looking good.

Very nice icon set.

What happened to the menu item for nvidia settings? Missing?

I haven't broken it yet, still trying.

[Béèm]

National Language Keyboard potentially problematic. lupu 508

When boot to the desktop fails and a user has the command prompt it is hell to type when having a National Language Keyboard.

So no change here.

I still think that at least the keyboard selection sequence should be maintained at boot.

[scsijon]

Hi all

Just downloaded and installed "Eudora" from the ppm and it is showing a list of missing dependencies
Edited to say: Seems to work OK. set up accountrs, incoming and outgoing mail all OK

Hope that helps
Stripe

Hi stripe, yes it will work ok, the problem is where puppy expects lib's and the like to be against how Eudora was setup. It's designed by the Eudora group to be self sufficent with the penelope package co-located instead of separate.
For those with thunderbird already installed, it co-locates so user data (mail folders etc) so that either appliaction can be used, although this may change as quite a number of people have asked for the option to isolate them.
I have both a bugs thread in Bugs (http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 509#432509) and Eudora OSE thread (http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 505#432505) if you come across problems or want to follow the release. Playdayz was nice enough to upload it for me into the tree.
I'm working on packaging and using my testing scripts for the rc2 at present, and that should be available in about a week as schooling and lupu testing are taking a lot of my time at present.

However, I could not come across a standalone application problem with rc1 other than the warning and that is a puppy problem, not a Eudora one.
regards
scsijon
ps I came across this problem back in 3.0.5 and 4.3.1 it's not eudora specific

[scsijon]

duplicte, sorry internet connection playing up

[sinc]

I tried a full install and got an error about missing dependencies... weird . I haven't been able to get my full install to work but maybe its just me (I hardly ever do a full install). If someone else tries let me know.

Sorry if this has been reported already I haven't been following the thread very closely but awesome work guys. Everything looks great. I'm gonna use icewm as my default.

[Béèm]

Window tittle bar difficult to read. lupu 508
Whether I change to another theme, the tittle bar of a window is difficult to read. The bar is quite dark and the text black.

When the background is dark as well, the bar is even difficult to see.

I looked in the desktop menu, but don't see where I can change this.

Is there a way to change?
Or is it hard-coded in JWM?

[Béèm]

youtube2pup video downloader lupu 508

I don't find the youtube2pup video facility anymore.
I wanted to see if it is working now.

Will it be back?
Is it abandoned?

[smil99]

Luci 505 proved to be very innovative in many ways than the latter lucis.
For example, through the video/language/keyboard changer, I could change the keyboard settings without dropping to the command line. Also, my internet connection fired up automatically without any intervention. These were quite great functions but they are lost in the latter lucis. Any chance to bring them back?

Cheers.

[DaveS]

Window tittle bar difficult to read. lupu 508
Whether I change to another theme, the tittle bar of a window is difficult to read. The bar is quite dark and the text black.

When the background is dark as well, the bar is even difficult to see.

I looked in the desktop menu, but don't see where I can change this.

Is there a way to change?
Or is it hard-coded in JWM?

BeeM, if you want to change it go to /root/.jwm/jwmrc-theme and change the top part of the file to read like this:

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<WindowStyle>
    <Font>-11:Bold</Font>
    <Width>3</Width>
    <Height>22</Height>     
    <Active>
       <Text>#FFFFFF</Text>
       <Title>#9f9191:#392d2d</Title>
<!--       <Corner>#9f9191</Corner> -->
       <Outline>#564141</Outline>
    </Active>
    <Inactive>
       <Text>#ECE5E5</Text>
       <Title>#d7cbcb:#2c1d1d</Title>         
<!--       <Corner>#d7cbcb</Corner> -->
       <Outline>#564141</Outline>
    </Inactive>
</WindowStyle> 

<TaskListStyle>
<Font>-12</Font>
<ActiveForeground>#FFFFFF</ActiveForeground>
<ActiveBackground>#9f9191:#392d2d</ActiveBackground>
<Background>#d7cbcb:#2c1d1d</Background>
</TaskListStyle>

That changes the blacks to white. I had to do the same. Re-start JWM after.

[Béèm]

Window tittle bar difficult to read. lupu 508
Whether I change to another theme, the tittle bar of a window is difficult to read. The bar is quite dark and the text black.

When the background is dark as well, the bar is even difficult to see.

I looked in the desktop menu, but don't see where I can change this.

Is there a way to change?
Or is it hard-coded in JWM?

BeeM, if you want to change it go to /root/.jwm/jwmrc-theme and change the top part of the file to read like this:

Code: Select all

<WindowStyle>
    <Font>-11:Bold</Font>
    <Width>3</Width>
    <Height>22</Height>     
    <Active>
       <Text>#FFFFFF</Text>
       <Title>#9f9191:#392d2d</Title>
<!--       <Corner>#9f9191</Corner> -->
       <Outline>#564141</Outline>
    </Active>
    <Inactive>
       <Text>#ECE5E5</Text>
       <Title>#d7cbcb:#2c1d1d</Title>         
<!--       <Corner>#d7cbcb</Corner> -->
       <Outline>#564141</Outline>
    </Inactive>
</WindowStyle> 

<TaskListStyle>
<Font>-12</Font>
<ActiveForeground>#FFFFFF</ActiveForeground>
<ActiveBackground>#9f9191:#392d2d</ActiveBackground>
<Background>#d7cbcb:#2c1d1d</Background>
</TaskListStyle>

That changes the blacks to white. I had to do the same. Re-start JWM after.

Thank you DaveS, that did the trick.
A pity that the puppies still lack user-friendly kind of configuration facility for such situations.
Cheers.