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Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 12:45
by 8-bit
I have now tried 500 and 501 and I am curious if a font problem I have is only happening to me.
Sometimes, the characters are not fully formed like the lower part of the "e" character will be gone.
Also, when reading posts on the forum, I am getting faint blue characters with some of them such as the two L's in the word "well" would be light blue.
I have tried changing the font size in Firefox, but that seems to have no effect on the light blue character being displayed.
I have not tried using a different font though.

Also, I had a previous pupsave file that I let 501 update.
The update went ok other than the fact that I previously had selected visa as the driver and now vesa does not work for me.
But now the nv driver works where it did not before.

Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 13:16
by pacer106
I have spent most of the last few days running some experiments with various new puplets.

I have discovered (I think) that kernel 2.6.39.4 in several new puplets including slacko, next pup, dpup exprimo, & stu90's d-lite pup does not seem to like the belkin wireless g router I use.

So I was wondering if any of the mentioned puplets could have the kernel rolled back? If it was rolled back would the puplets not work properly?

Does anyone else have any issues with getting online using a belkin wireless g router?

I would be interested in finding out from those who have had kernel panic lockups if they are using a belkin wireless g router.

Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 14:03
by Iguleder
I remember I wrote a script that replaces the kernel in a Puppy, I can write a new one for you, so you can take Guy Dog (or any other Puppy) and transplant a new kernel - 2.6.32.x could be a great choice.

Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 14:12
by pacer106
That would be great Iguleder :) When you get time no rush on it. I know you got many things going on right now. They are more important then my little issue.

I should know how to do that already lol. Just never had a need for a different kernel. The native included in the puplets I try have always worked until this belkin router started being used. Really curious as to what it could be with the belkin.

Going to do some internet searching today see if I can find any other known issues with the kernel in recent puplets & belkin routers.

Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 14:40
by Iguleder
Umm ... I've got good and bad news.

The good news are that now we have Samba and a nice GTK+ frontend (gadmin-samba) built in dpup and they seem to work, although I haven't shared a printer or something to test.

The bad news is the size of the Samba package - about 30 MB. At the moment, what the official Puppy releases have is an old Samba from 2009, that probably won't work with Windows 7 and 2008 R2.

That package has just smbclient and other important binaries, not the whole deal. However, the smblclient binary is about 4 MB in the package I just built, which is still way too much.

pacer106: thanks for the inspiration, you gave me a very innovative idea - a multi-kernel Puppy (e.g multiple kernels in one Puppy, not multi-boot) - the downside is slower boot times (and size, of course). A kernel choice menu in the boot loader could be a nice addition to Puppy :wink:

Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 14:56
by sc0ttman
Iguleder wrote:pacer106: thanks for the inspiration, you gave me a very innovative idea - a multi-kernel Puppy (e.g multiple kernels in one Puppy, not multi-boot) - the downside is slower boot times (and size, of course). A kernel choice menu in the boot loader could be a nice addition to Puppy :wink:
I too would like that kernel-switching script; at the moment, I use the method described here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=60180

Also, goingnuts has already done a lot of work on multiple kernel pups, he thinks it may be a dead end, maybe you could PM him, ask where he got to, how he did it, etc, it might help you get on the right track a bit quicker...
I was planning on letting users choose a kernel at boot time, too, for Akita.

Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 15:07
by tubeguy
Iguleder wrote:The good news are that now we have Samba and a nice GTK+ frontend (gadmin-samba) built in dpup and they seem to work, although I haven't shared a printer or something to test.
Would not mind giving that a try, would work for my network which has no Windows 7 boxes.

Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 15:21
by Iguleder
tubeguy - it would be quite problematic to upload those huge packages, since I use a very unstable wireless connection now :cry:

pacer106 and sc0ttman - I already know how to do this, I did it once already. I can write a new script, it won't be very hard.

There's only one main issue here - when you replace the current kernel of a Puppy, the new kernel's drivers could have some extra dependencies, so you can't just replace every driver by your kernel's one. However, that's the best bet. :lol:

I'm writing a new and improved build script for the 2.6.32.x kernel right now, which is fairly vanilla and uses Unionfs instead of Aufs, as Barry did in his 3.0.4.

I want to write a complete suite of build scripts, for the kernel, Sysprof, ndiswrapper and NVIDIA. I just don't have a good kernel to test the script with at the moment.

Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 15:31
by pacer106
Wow did not intend anything like that but glad I inspired something :)

Looking forward to testing it out.

Did a little research on my problem with belkin router & not finding much. I did not think of trying to assign the IP & all that myself which from the little info I did find was quoted to have worked. It was dated info though & did not specify what linux version or kernel. So who knows for sure until I try :) Hoping to do that later today.

Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 16:21
by tubeguy
Iguleder wrote:tubeguy - it would be quite problematic to upload those huge packages, since I use a very unstable wireless connection now :cry:
No sweat. :wink:

Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 16:42
by Iguleder
The wonderful 2.6.32.46 is compiling at the moment, let's see if it's any good :)

So ... if we have the first multi-kernel Puppy - should it have a boot menu with two entries? I think the Arch Linux and Debian Live syslinux.cfg could come in handy :wink:

Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 16:50
by pacer106
should it have a boot menu with two entries?
I wish I knew enough to answer that lol. My vote would go for whatever is the easiest for the end user to decide from.

Would this be a new puplet? Should we come up with some kind of kernel based name for example Kernel Dog with some military type look?

Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 18:14
by Iguleder
Nah, it's nothing but a fun experiment :lol:

And the kernel is done building, now comes the fun part :lol:

Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 18:42
by pacer106
Experiments are always fun :) like this background. I have seen a few comments on how speedy Guy Dog is so i thought up this background. Hope it looks proper.

Coming in for a landing in the desert mountains.

Image
guydog-speed by J. P. Stunna, on Flickr

Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 20:44
by pacer106

Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 22:00
by smokey01
Iguleder wrote:Umm ... I've got good and bad news.

The bad news is the size of the Samba package - about 30 MB. At the moment, what the official Puppy releases have is an old Samba from 2009, that probably won't work with Windows 7 and 2008 R2.
Iguleder there is always the option of an optional SFS file to keep all the additional software separate from the main SFS file.

package manager

Posted: Fri 21 Oct 2011, 22:39
by raffy
Nice collection of applications!

I tried 5.0.1 in Intel Atom board combo, and the Package Manager would not function. It downloaded package list from Debian repo then nothing.

Pmount prompts the user to install Rox, but it may be better to just have Rox in there, or link the "Files" button of Pmount to the default file manager.

Almost Perfect But....

Posted: Sat 22 Oct 2011, 00:27
by mikeslr
Hi Iguleder & All,

Guy Dog 5.0.1 is incredibly responsive on my system, even with the installation of Rox-Filer. I decided to install Rox-Filer because (a) I'm lazy and inexperienced; (b) I'm familiar with it; (c) following up on iguleder's suggestion I located what appears to be fairly thorough advice on how to go about how to use the kernel's binfmt_misc module to use wine as an interpreter independent of whatever limitations your file-manager may impose or require [See https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wi ... 2_binaries if you desire to work exclusively with emelfm2] but re-read (a) & (b). Having installed Rox-Filer, as noted by Terry H, pmount still produces the advice to install Rox-Filer rather than initiating it. If fact, I've tried a could of different Rox-Filers, all of which produce the same results.

Raffy has suggested that "Pmount prompts the user to install Rox, but it may be better to just have Rox in there, or link the "Files" button of Pmount to the default file manager."

So my questions are:
(a) Which Rox-Filer, if installed, would automatically enable clicking "mount" in pmount to open the mounted drive/partition in Rox-Filler?
(b) If none of the currently available ones will, what changes need be made after installation to accomplish that?
(c) I looked in /usr/local/bin but did not recognize any file for setting the default file manager. How would someone go about setting Rox-Filer as the default, but perhaps better still, creating an app to switch which is to be the default file manager? or does one exist already?
(d) Rox-Filer seems to lack the pleasing and distinctive taskbar icons (such as the "eye" for show/hide hidden files) displaying only boxes with red-Xs for three actions that can be taken. How would I go about making changes to provide them?

Thanks in advance,

mikesLr

Re: Almost Perfect But....

Posted: Sat 22 Oct 2011, 00:31
by James C
mikeslr wrote:Hi Iguleder & All,

Guy Dog 5.0.1 is incredibly responsive on my system, even with the installation of Rox-Filer. I decided to install Rox-Filer because (a) I'm lazy and inexperienced; (b) I'm familiar with it; (c) following up on iguleder's suggestion I located what appears to be fairly thorough advice on how to go about how to use the kernel's binfmt_misc module to use wine as an interpreter independent of whatever limitations your file-manager may impose or require [See https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wi ... 2_binaries if you desire to work exclusively with emelfm2] but re-read (a) & (b). Having installed Rox-Filer, as noted by Terry H, pmount still produces the advice to install Rox-Filer rather than initiating it. If fact, I've tried a could of different Rox-Filers, all of which produce the same results.

Raffy has suggested that "Pmount prompts the user to install Rox, but it may be better to just have Rox in there, or link the "Files" button of Pmount to the default file manager."

So my questions are:
(a) Which Rox-Filer, if installed, would automatically enable clicking "mount" in pmount to open the mounted drive/partition in Rox-Filler?
(b) If none of the currently available ones will, what changes need be made after installation to accomplish that?
(c) I looked in /usr/local/bin but did not recognize any file for setting the default file manager. How would someone go about setting Rox-Filer as the default, but perhaps better still, creating an app to switch which is to be the default file manager? or does one exist already?
(d) Rox-Filer seems to lack the pleasing and distinctive taskbar icons (such as the "eye" for show/hide hidden files) displaying only boxes with red-Xs for three actions that can be taken. How would I go about making changes to provide them?

Thanks in advance,

mikesLr
You had the dreaded extra space in your url....... :lol:

Thanks JamesC

Posted: Sat 22 Oct 2011, 00:37
by mikeslr
Thanks JamesC

Thought LibreOffice Writer on which the post was composed had used an invisible ink font.

How did you figure it out and unhide it? It might be a good thing to know if I ever want to send secret messages?

mikesLr