(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

Some notes:
- Nvidia card works well. Only 16 bits, but that is how it used to work.
- text in firefox is small (for my eyes) by default.
- Browser-chooser at first boot should probably tell that basic surfing on older hardware might happen with netsurf.
- The icon-background bug is worse with nv driver than vesa. Both in 16 bits color-depth.
- Leaving JWM would be a great loss.
- Click on a html file in Rox, - Netsurf is not able to read it. If I force it to read a file:/// and not html:///, it works.
- Viewnior is not supporting non-english chars in filename. - Gpicview does.
- The you2pup menu-icon is still too wide.
- As told earlier, pStopWatch/Ptimer should really be replaced by these
- Mick has already provided a solution for Pmusic/Gxine


Sigmund

hi playdayz,

could you include acpid-1.0.10-1.pet referred to here

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=38173
(Patriot and shinobar)

it provides soft shut down and suspend mostly for laptops
(included in both Quirky013 and StarDust013) and works well

but if you called the suspend.sh from your desktop pc, it probably works as well

thanks

As always - very best regards - Ray

HI again

JFYI - installed JRB's latest sfs loader for 431 and then used it to load
his opera10final.sfs - using it now - works well.

So it may be another something to consider for inclusion if space allows.

Hope you don't mind my suggestion.

As always many thanks for lupu and very best regards - Ray

@Nooby

What needs to be added is for the complete beginner a small text in the choice that tells them how to find the browser.

Yes.

zigbert

Browser-chooser at first boot should probably tell that basic surfing on older hardware might happen with netsurf

Yes.

Using Lucid 004
OpenOffice and Xara sfs working OK
I tried the puppy package manager
and programs seemed to install and uninstall (but not yet work)
Tried Squeak, Scribus and one or two others . . .

I downloaded (somehow - it told me it was not downloading and then did) the latest Wine SFS
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 432#407432

then using menu / utility / general utilities / sfsconversion
I was able to find the sfs with menu / system / system schedule / bootmanager
and reboot and use Wine - what for I don't know but some like that sort of thing . . .

Hi playdayz,
Yes, that was a fine surprise, love it, great idea, getting to choose the browser and making the choice the default browser. My first change was always to install firefox. As already noted, new users probably need some guidance on which browser to choose.

Since there was some discussion about using a 64-bit browser, 64-bit systems still uses 32-bit software in Puppy with the exception of Kirk's Fatdog64 which uses only 64-bit software.

Everything seems to be working properly for my frugal installation on an ext4 partition, even CUPS. EDIT: Gzine had no audio or video as in previous versions. Video problem is corrected by installing "mplayer_codecs_full". Don't recall the fix for the audio.

Thanks,
Jim

Me again

Psync is an extremely useful and convenient way of setting time, especially for
n00bie's like me and also for picky reviewers - is it something else to consider?

BTW luv the battery and temp display - very nice.

Very best regards - Ray

01micko wrote:I will probably recompile icewm trying a few different options, and when I get something everyone is happy with I will drop the "me" from the .pet (micko edition Wink ) and whether it becomes default or not then becomes dependent on progress with JWM.

Is one of the options, an ability to change fonts and font size? Current fonts are hard on these old eyes.

Jim

Look in the lupu-004 fixes for a possible solution to the bad font problem.

Here is an update pet that adds all 5 browsers, some more detailed explanation, plus an Add_a_Browser link in the /root directory. It will be included in the next version but that will not be for a few days. Until then this is the way to check out the new browsers.
Lucid-Browser-Update -> http://www.diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/L ... Update.pet

Installed the Lucid-Browser-Update pet and I got this.............

Ray MK wrote:JFYI - installed JRB's latest sfs loader for 431 and then used it to load
his opera10final.sfs - using it now - works well.

Have downloaded and intalled lupu004. I'm very impressed! The browser option is a great idea!

Abiword crashes when I try to spellcheck. Has anyone mentioned that?

I'm using 1280x1024x16 video. x24 gives really washed out icons but x16 is fine.

SFS-TCZ_Linker-1.2 has a problem with lupu however. Trying to install a folder full of sfs's (sfs_link_all_within) causes a system freeze. I was doing some revisions on it anyway and will be releasing SFS-TCZ_Linker-1.4, which is lupu friendly, in a few days. Part of it is out for testing right now and if there are no major problems will release soon.

Playdayz, Keep up the great work, J

What does everyone think of this idea?

A one click installation. Clicking the appropriate icon downloads the browser and opens petget so all the user has to do is click ok in petget to install. No messy looking for files. I have it working, just need to refine the gui (take little notice of the dialog at the top of gui, that will change. Perhaps a menu entry in "Setup"? That way a user can easy pick another browser too. The links are hard coded at the moment but it could easily be updated for later versions of browsers as they become available. Theres a tab for Email (disabled ATM) too, and I guess Java and Flash would be easy to add also.

Cheers

Upgraded from 003 to 004 and installed firefox-3.6.3. Everything went smooth. Even on an 11 year old system, firefox seems like a good choice. It seems as though lately, firefox is getting more efficient. It doesn't use too much more resource than seamonkey-1.1.18 and is probably on par with seamonkey 2.X.
Overall, the system has been stable and gracefull. Great work!

@01micko: Nothing wrong with that - looks great!
Oh, wait a minute, there's that 3 space thing again

01micko wrote:What does everyone think of this idea?

Looks good to me....especially nice for the noobies..

Great idea with the browser choice - downloaded iron all seems to work ok.

would it be possible to have the updated blinky in lupup that ttuuxxx has added to 4.3.2 official?

I also change my default volume and pwireless2 tray icons for ubuntu ones - if any use for lupup here is .png download light/dark.
http://rapidshare.com/files/372114204/v ... ar.gz.html







thanks.

What does everyone think of this idea?

It is good
I hope playdayz will comment
As far as I understand it, he is using HTML
and netsurf

I would add Netsurf to your list - We DO have
a minimal browser already in Lucid

So for Netsurf it would just change the default browser, for the others it would install and change
to other browsers. If the browser was already on the system could it swap or uninstall as an option?

I would also think about how your program could be used in other Puppys - Are you using GTKdialog?

I would also think about how your program could be used in other Puppys - Are you using GTKdialog?

Yes it is, and your thought is spot on! It could be used in any Puppy.

I have designed it with a configurable config file so that the browser can be sourced from any repo on the planet, or if possible off the planet. The config file is mainly designed for the lead developer to change to what ever repo suits his distro. I un-hardcoded it..

I am just running some final tests on the first draft, Some things are slightly broken, but that is where the config file comes in. It is located at $HOME/.browser-links.config. Anyone can edit it if they know what to do, it is fairly straightforward.

I have added Flash and Java, so puppy need not ship with flash either. That link is working. Java is disabled .. on purpose. I'll leave it up to playdayz if he wants to use it, and if so he can put in the links he wants, very easily.

Well, while I'm typing it passed the test! .. uploading now

Be warned, this is experimental! Use at own risk, I suggest backup pupsave or try pfix=ram

Cheers and enjoy

EDIT: only try Thunderbird if you want to chase dependencies, it is from the Ubuntu Lucid repo... NO .. you can't now I disabled
Also grabbing seamonkey-1.1.19 presented a bug.

Remember, this app does not claim to be stable, it is really a concept

Just used it to install Seamonkey 2
(yep I am using at my own risk)

I would eventually put Flash and Java
into other menus

Are you also thinking of adding major packages
such as Open Office - but then it starts to become a package manager - so not right. Unthink.

The code can be seen in (just load into a text editor)
/usr/sbin/browser-installer
might inspire improvements other projects

Good simple to understand/modify code

Many thanks

Thunderbird error when installing from 01micko installer:
Thunderbird 3.0.4 standalone installation does not contain that libxcb-aux.so.0. And it works ok from its own folder at /mnt/home.

I chased depencies more. I installed next three by package manager but then I got ssl3 error. See the attachment.