Create Debian 9 (Stretch) minimal ISO similar to DebianDog
i created good Devuan xfce iso using Fred's newest script. Used default options/packages.
Able to login into puppy desktop without any special tweaks.
Great!
i notice on clicking Log Out button in puppy whisker, only "Logout" is available. Shutdown and others are grayed out.
Any idea why?
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I notice other partitions aren't listed in puppy Thunar or desktop. However, those partitions are available in the /mnt directory.
Any ideas?
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Also, i notice many icons are missing from puppy desktop and menu, cuz icon theme isn't set correctly.
if i set icon theme in Appearance to Faenza, now all icons display correctly. Great! Now i'll research a way to set default theme for all users, so puppy (and any other new users) get correct icons on first boot.
cheers!
Able to login into puppy desktop without any special tweaks.
Great!
i notice on clicking Log Out button in puppy whisker, only "Logout" is available. Shutdown and others are grayed out.
Any idea why?
----
I notice other partitions aren't listed in puppy Thunar or desktop. However, those partitions are available in the /mnt directory.
Any ideas?
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Also, i notice many icons are missing from puppy desktop and menu, cuz icon theme isn't set correctly.
if i set icon theme in Appearance to Faenza, now all icons display correctly. Great! Now i'll research a way to set default theme for all users, so puppy (and any other new users) get correct icons on first boot.
cheers!
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Hi johnywhy,
Instead of describing how to fix, here's a new "zz_xfce_config.squashfs"
https://debiandog.github.io/MakeLive/mo ... g.squashfs
Just replace the old one in your frugal install "live" folder with this one (and reboot).
It's a lot smaller because in the old one I forgot to remove folder 'new' in /root (no need for that)
This will fix most of the problems that we discussed before, e.g. logged in as puppy:
- startx works
- synaptic and gparted work (modified .desktop launchers in ~/.local/share/applications)
- logout from whisker menu is obshutdown (original is xfce4-session-logout, but couldn't figure out to make it work, indeed, as you said, only Logout is visible)
- drive icons will show on the desktop and in Thunar
Note: if you use this .squashfs, you must start with fresh, empty save file or folder.
Any new build with mklive-stretch or mklive-devuan (using XFCE option) will now make use of this new zz_xfce_config.squashfs
Fred
Instead of describing how to fix, here's a new "zz_xfce_config.squashfs"
https://debiandog.github.io/MakeLive/mo ... g.squashfs
Just replace the old one in your frugal install "live" folder with this one (and reboot).
It's a lot smaller because in the old one I forgot to remove folder 'new' in /root (no need for that)
This will fix most of the problems that we discussed before, e.g. logged in as puppy:
- startx works
- synaptic and gparted work (modified .desktop launchers in ~/.local/share/applications)
- logout from whisker menu is obshutdown (original is xfce4-session-logout, but couldn't figure out to make it work, indeed, as you said, only Logout is visible)
- drive icons will show on the desktop and in Thunar
Note: if you use this .squashfs, you must start with fresh, empty save file or folder.
Any new build with mklive-stretch or mklive-devuan (using XFCE option) will now make use of this new zz_xfce_config.squashfs
Fred
Configuration for that is in ~/.config/xfce4/desktop/dcung wrote:What files can I copy (or modified) from default 'root' to non-root users so that the desktop icons do not get under conky?
It's name depends on your resolution, for me it's "icons.screen0-1264x756.rc"
So, the best you can do is: move the icons to where you want, and it will be reflected in that config file.
EDIT: But (after you did above) if you want it resolution independent, rename it to "icons.screen0.rc" (which already exist, delete that first)
Then delete the others with resolution in the name so that only "icons.screen0.rc" exist in that directory (but note, after restarting X, the file with resolution in the name will be recreated)
A bit complicated it is, but that's how I did it to make remaster for sharing.
Also I deleted the lines for the drive icons from icons.screen0.rc e.g.
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Whisker Menu Exit/Shutdown command
Hi johnywhy,johnywhy wrote: i notice on clicking Log Out button in puppy whisker, only "Logout" is available. Shutdown and others are grayed out. Any idea why?
I'm not running this OS, but from experience with Whisker menu on others, it would appear that the correct Exit command is not being used. What you'll have to do is track down the correct command. If you still have jwm, examine the Exec= arguments in the desktop files at /usr/share/applications which would trigger shut down routines. These files may actually bear "shutdown" in its name. Then pfind (or equivalent) the executable. If desktop files don't provide a hint, start with pfind and search for Exit, Shutdown and any other term you think may be appropriate. Sometimes the entire path will be required.
It would help is someone already knows what command triggers the correct shutdown routine.
Once you've identified the correct Exit/shutdown routine, Right-Click the Whisker Icon, Select Properties, Left-Click the Commands Tab, and replace the command in the Log Out box.
Thanks Mike, but it has not to do with .desktop files in /usr/share/applications.mikeslr wrote:It would help is someone already knows what command triggers the correct shutdown routine.
It's about the default logout dialog command for xfce4, which is:
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xfce4-session-logout
But when logged in as unprivileged user, it only shows "Logout" (others greyed out).
As I said, no idea how to solve that, but the obshutdown dialog does the job ok, so no real problem IMO.
Fred
Fantastic. Thx Fred! Will this new one be used next time i run your mk script?fredx181 wrote:here's a new "zz_xfce_config.squashfs"
https://debiandog.github.io/MakeLive/mo ... g.squashfs
Just replace the old one
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but, in obshutdown window, only logout is visible. Other options are grayed out. I have to get to root to shutdown.fredx181 wrote:the obshutdown dialog does the job ok, so no real problem
i suspect permissions issue, and usergroup fix.
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Great!fredx181 wrote:Yes, do from terminal:johnywhy wrote:Is it possible to boot to command prompt, without logging in, instead of booting into X?After save and reboot, autologin should be disabled then.Code: Select all
cp -af /etc/inittab-noauto /etc/inittab
My goal is to use command line as login screen, so we're not consuming RAM and diskspace with Slim or other login eye-candy.
But, still want xfce desktop to start as soon as the user logs in at the command line, without having to type startx or startxfce4. That should happen for all users, including new ones added later.
How to do that? You're already doing that (or something like it) to boot to desktop for root. But i want to do it from command-line login.
One of these?
Adding the command to the end of ~/.profile
https://askubuntu.com/questions/270049/ ... d-at-login
put a .desktop file in ~/.config/autostart to run applications after a user login. This may have following content:
[Desktop Entry]
Type=Application
Name=<Name of application as displayed>
Exec=<command to execute>
Icon=<full path to icon>
Comment=<optinal comments>
X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=true
https://askubuntu.com/a/48327
xfce4-terminal -e "/batch-path/batch-name.sh"
xfce4-terminal: open the terminal after user login with current user privileges
-e: set the terminal to execute the batch file
/batch-path/batch-name.sh: is the batch full path and full name
https://askubuntu.com/a/310333
THX
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Yes.johnywhy wrote:Will this new one be used next time i run your mk script?
Don't know what you did exacly, you started with fresh save ? (recommended)but, in obshutdown window, only logout is visible. Other options are grayed out. I have to get to root to shutdown.
For me (logged in as puppy) when I click on the button at bottom-right in Whsiker menu I get the obshutdown dialog, see pic.
EDIT:
It should do that now with the new zz_xfce_config.squashfs (automatic startx, just the same as when logged in as root)But, still want xfce desktop to start as soon as the user logs in at the command line, without having to type startx or startxfce4
Fred
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indeed, this is now fixed with your new zz_xfce_config.squashfs.fredx181 wrote:For me (logged in as puppy) when I click on the button at bottom-right in Whsiker menu I get the obshutdown dialog, see pic.johnywhy wrote:in obshutdown window, only logout is visible.
great!
It should do that now with the new zz_xfce_config.squashfs[/quote]want xfce desktop to start as soon as the user logs in at the command line
it does!
thx!
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works, but i get this on boot. It gets stuck there, without a command-prompt. then i must press enter to get command prompt. Any fix?fredx181 wrote:do from terminal:After save and reboot, autologin should be disabled then.Code: Select all
cp -af /etc/inittab-noauto /etc/inittab
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logged into Devuan puppy desktop, this fails to ask for root password. Just runs thunar as root without pw:
this hangs (supposed to be root by default):
https://www.freedesktop.org/software/po ... xec.1.html
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Most people will sit there staring at it, without pressing any keys, and assume it's broken.
Much else to get working, so not urgent. But eventually would like to fix that.
THX
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pkexec --user root thunar
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pkexec thunar
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Not too much trouble for me. But i'm attemtping to create a lil distro to share with friends and the universe. Trying to make it as user-friendly as possible.fredx181 wrote:Yes, I noticed similar, need to press Enter, not too much trouble I hope ?johnywhy wrote:on boot, i must press enter to get command prompt.
Most people will sit there staring at it, without pressing any keys, and assume it's broken.
Much else to get working, so not urgent. But eventually would like to fix that.
THX
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Try:johnywhy wrote:pkexec thunar
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gsu thunar
Fred
things brokoen since new script and zz...sfs file
(i think it's just the new zz is the cause)
Devuan root desktop:
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not getting audio on youtube videos now. changing volume with pulse panel slider does nothing, and it reverts to 0 position on re-open.
clicking "mixer" in pulse panel gives
"Failed to execute command 'pavucontrol', no such file or directory"
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clock does not seem to recognize timezone. I set timezone with "Setup timezone" app to my timezone,
peasyclock shows correct time, but panel clock still wrong.
even if i click 'set' and 'refresh' in peasy clock, and get "tray clock will update shortly", panel clock still shows wrong time.
THX
(i think it's just the new zz is the cause)
Devuan root desktop:
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not getting audio on youtube videos now. changing volume with pulse panel slider does nothing, and it reverts to 0 position on re-open.
clicking "mixer" in pulse panel gives
"Failed to execute command 'pavucontrol', no such file or directory"
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clock does not seem to recognize timezone. I set timezone with "Setup timezone" app to my timezone,
peasyclock shows correct time, but panel clock still wrong.
even if i click 'set' and 'refresh' in peasy clock, and get "tray clock will update shortly", panel clock still shows wrong time.
THX
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Probably cannot be because of the new zz...sfs file, it only contains some simple cofiguration changes for xfce4, nothing to do with pulseaudio.johnywhy wrote:things brokoen since new script and zz...sfs file
(i think it's just the new zz is the cause)
I don't know about "mixer" in pulse panel You installed pulseaudio ? Need to install pavucontrol probably then.
For timezone I can recommend to install "tzupdate" it will automatically detect timezone and set the time from internet.
It's a Dog's Life
prolly my mistake somewhere.
i'll spin up a fresh one, and give it another go.
i understand you can't solve everything. i'm just putting it out there, in case someone else knows the trick.
cheers!
i'll spin up a fresh one, and give it another go.
i understand you can't solve everything. i'm just putting it out there, in case someone else knows the trick.
cheers!
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Re: It's a Dog's Life
Not sure if it's a mistake, and OK to post issues here, but not useful if you don't provide exact details about what you did, e.g. "mixer in pulse panel" is not clear enough info IMO.johnywhy wrote:prolly my mistake somewhere.
i'll spin up a fresh one, and give it another go.
i understand you can't solve everything. i'm just putting it out there, in case someone else knows the trick.
cheers!
EDIT: And... building further upon a minimal install is not easy, btw
Fred
I like PCManFM, so when I made iso using mklive, I added it (in addition to 'default' file manager) . In this instance, I added to 'full' version iso, which has Thunar as default.
But I found that some right click menu options are missing (activate/deactivate module).
Is there some missing package to install or config I need to do?
Thank you.
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Is there some missing package to install or config I need to do?
Thank you.
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Hi all,
I am just reporting.
While browsing, looking for answers for my post above, I encountered
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=67656
which didn't resolve my PCManFM yet, but it mentioned SpaceFM.
So I thought, I give SpaceFM a try.
Installing from synaptic (full-dog64), I get this error.
With my limited knowledge, I only tried renaming the file and retry install...and it didn't go away.
I am just reporting.
While browsing, looking for answers for my post above, I encountered
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=67656
which didn't resolve my PCManFM yet, but it mentioned SpaceFM.
So I thought, I give SpaceFM a try.
Installing from synaptic (full-dog64), I get this error.
With my limited knowledge, I only tried renaming the file and retry install...and it didn't go away.
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Unnecessary, the system already has everything needed to manage clock, timezone, and ntp. The issue is, a different timezone pre-applied to the panel clock. The fix is to remove the panel-clock, and re-add it. then timezone set with peasy or timezone app will display as expected in the panel clock.For timezone I can recommend to install "tzupdate" it will automatically detect timezone and set the time from internet.
https://askubuntu.com/a/497398
i didn't install pulse. The "pulseaudio plugin" panel-control is already installed by your script. I can't tell which package it's coming from.fredx181 wrote:I don't know about "mixer" in pulse panel You installed pulseaudio ? Need to install pavucontrol probably then.
pulseaudio plugin panel-control:not useful if you don't provide exact details about what you did, e.g. "mixer in pulse panel" is not clear enough
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