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Geoffrey wrote:... there is a defaults.list in /usr/share/applications, so I added inode/directory=Thunar.desktop there instead.

Well, I'll be... this fixed a (probably) related issue in Precise 5.7.1/Firefox, too - and I've noticed the same problem with Firefox in a number of Linux distros ("Open Containing Folder" does nothing) - maybe it'll work with those, as well.

I'll throw a thread up in the "How To's" sub-forum to let folks know.

Bob

I've never mentioned how much I love Carolina. In fact I'll bet it's a major factor in my lack of Puppy contributions in the last few years. It's just so good I don't need to compile anything or tweak anything. Necessity is the mother of invention, and so I've been lazy

Anyway, speaking of necessity, long story short, I installed Carolina on to a new laptop, but the hardware required a newer kernel. I'd like to upload the Carolina iso I remastered with the new kernel but thought to ask permission before doing so.

Many thanks again for this puplet Geoffrey, elroy, and rg66

battleshooter wrote:I've never mentioned how much I love Carolina. In fact I'll bet it's a major factor in my lack of Puppy contributions in the last few years. It's just so good I don't need to compile anything or tweak anything. Necessity is the mother of invention, and so I've been lazy

Anyway, speaking of necessity, long story short, I installed Carolina on to a new laptop, but the hardware required a newer kernel. I'd like to upload the Carolina iso I remastered with the new kernel but thought to ask permission before doing so.

Many thanks again for this puplet Geoffrey, elroy, and rg66

Thanks battleshooter, do that, the kernel update you offer will be welcome.

There isn't much else we can do anymore, rg66 is busy with X-Slacko and X-Precise and would like to move on to other newer projects.

I was going to post that there wouldn't be another update, I'll continue to add apps to the repo but as far as Carolina go's it will remain at version 1.2 indefinitely.

It would be easier for those that want an updated version to remove the adrive and create there own adding the apps they require from the repo.

Wow, that's unfortunate. And completely ironic. I seem to have a knack for deciding to say "I <3 Puppy XXXX" right before the project winds down. I did that to Saluki just before it closed down as well.

I remastered with Carolina 1.1, so I need to remaster with 1.2 instead, makes more sense if that's to be the final release. I can send you the link when it's uploaded.

battleshooter

It should be possible to update the kernel with the new init scripts in current woof 'testing'

As a very rough guideline:-

1. Compile a kernel in Carolina using kernel-kit. That will leave you with a kernel-modules sfs and vmlinuz-whatever-version. Rename vminuz-xxxx to vmlinuz and the kernel-modules.sfs.xxx to what ever the ZDRIVE variable is in carolina (see /etc/DISTRO_SPECS). If you don't want to build a kernel get one here, one built in slacko and the other in tahr, but there may be gcc/glibc issues since carolina is an old base.

2. Grab these 2 files init and rc.sysinit

3. decompress your initrd.gz, replace the init script and delete all the kernel modules (everything in /lib/modules).

4. In the main sfs (or if carolina has an original z drive, sorry too ignorant to know) delete all the kernel modules and firmware as the nw kernel has it in the sfs (in kernel kit you have to find it your self, so maybe grab one of the kernels anyway and copy it from there, this is a work in progress and firmware is a bit of an issue atm, but we are working on it).
While in the main sfs replace /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit with the file I pointed at earlier.

5. compress your initrd.gz, compress the main sfs and that should almost get you there.

NB: I have only tried this with very recent woof so ymmv but forum member stemsee has tried it with a variety of pups. Talk to him for further advice.

Cheers

Thanks for the tip(s) Micko!

I've actually already compiled the 3.15 kernel using yours and Iguleder's kernel-kit in the Woof-CE. (Thank you for that by the way, it makes kernel compilation very simple.) I was just asking Geoffrey for permission to post it. (Thought to be safe than sorry.) I've been using the new kernel for with Carolina 1.1 a few days now and all seems steady.

To add the new kernel to Carolina I just used the "Carolina Custom Builder". I think the CCB might do your steps automatically because after I selected the kernel pet I made from the folder in /dist/packages, CCB combined it with the original lina-1.1.iso, resquashed everything and spat out a shiny new lina-1.1.iso, so I didn't really have to mess with the details in your post.

I did manually remove the old kernel headers from the devx file and obviously completely replaced the kernel source sfs with the one created by the kernel kit.

The only thing I couldn't figure out was why /lib/modules/3.15.0/build kept pointing to the original place I compiled it in (/mnt/sda3/woof-CE-master/kernel-kit/linux-3.15) instead of /lib/modules/3.15/build or /usr/src/linux.

I recompiled the kernel again today. I deleted the kernel pet I used to remaster 1.1, and oddly enough the easier solution was just to recompile.

Carolina 1.2 with 3.15 kernel.
MD5: 912819e4e58ba21ae4e2ef06a5755339

mirrored here: http://archive.org/details/PuppyLinuxCarolina

battleshooter wrote:I recompiled the kernel again today. I deleted the kernel pet I used to remaster 1.1, and oddly enough the easier solution was just to recompile.

Carolina 1.2 with 3.15 kernel.
MD5: 912819e4e58ba21ae4e2ef06a5755339

Just to stretch the rubber band a bit tested this on my 1.6GHz Pentium M all intel fujitsu S6231 laptop using a standard Grub4Dos frugal install and my savefile and custom adrive from my carolite 1.2 install appropriately renamed. Up and running immediately. Wireless connection, sound, video, themes, wallpaper, CPU governor, lid suspend, xfce4 panel all totally correct.

battleshooter wrote:I recompiled the kernel again today...

Carolina 1.2 with 3.15 kernel.
MD5: 912819e4e58ba21ae4e2ef06a5755339

Oooo... must... find... WiFi... location... immediately...

My fav Pup, updated with 3.15 kernel? YaYikes! Thanks, battleshooter...

Bob

Marv wrote:

battleshooter wrote:I recompiled the kernel again today. I deleted the kernel pet I used to remaster 1.1, and oddly enough the easier solution was just to recompile.

Carolina 1.2 with 3.15 kernel.
MD5: 912819e4e58ba21ae4e2ef06a5755339

Just to stretch the rubber band a bit tested this on my 1.6GHz Pentium M all intel fujitsu S6231 laptop using a standard Grub4Dos frugal install and my savefile and custom adrive from my carolite 1.2 install appropriately renamed. Up and running immediately. Wireless connection, sound, video, themes, wallpaper, CPU governor, lid suspend, xfce4 panel all totally correct.

On my Acer Aspire One, this lina with kernel 3.15 stops at the 'Personalize Settings' screen where another window pops up saying 'The kernel has not loaded its device drivers. It is likely that the zdrive is not installed...' At this point input devices (netbook's keyboard and trackpad, and USB keyboard/mouse combo) stopped working. I had to power off using the power button.

At boot time I could use the keyboard to tell lina to not use the savefiles it located in my hard drive. I also saw the on screen message about files being loaded, among them is zdrive.

On my Toshiba Chromebook, this lina also got to the 'Personalize Settings' screen but the display was so wrong. The xfce panel that should be sitting at the bottom of the screen is displayed a couple of inches from the top. I have no way to see whether or not the message about the device drivers not loaded is shown. Again I had to turn the device off with the power button. X-precise runs on this chromebook with just the trackpad not working, but Carolina won't boot on this device (I'm thinking it could be the old kernel)

Can someone confirm if this lina with kernel 3.15 works on their PC?

yerc1 wrote:

Marv wrote:

battleshooter wrote:I recompiled the kernel again today. I deleted the kernel pet I used to remaster 1.1, and oddly enough the easier solution was just to recompile.

Carolina 1.2 with 3.15 kernel.
MD5: 912819e4e58ba21ae4e2ef06a5755339

Just to stretch the rubber band a bit tested this on my 1.6GHz Pentium M all intel fujitsu S6231 laptop using a standard Grub4Dos frugal install and my savefile and custom adrive from my carolite 1.2 install appropriately renamed. Up and running immediately. Wireless connection, sound, video, themes, wallpaper, CPU governor, lid suspend, xfce4 panel all totally correct.

On my Acer Aspire One, this lina with kernel 3.15 stops at the 'Personalize Settings' screen where another window pops up saying 'The kernel has not loaded its device drivers. It is likely that the zdrive is not installed...' At this point input devices (netbook's keyboard and trackpad, and USB keyboard/mouse combo) stopped working. I had to power off using the power button.

At boot time I could use the keyboard to tell lina to not use the savefiles it located in my hard drive. I also saw the on screen message about files being loaded, among them is zdrive.

On my Toshiba Chromebook, this lina also got to the 'Personalize Settings' screen but the display was so wrong. The xfce panel that should be sitting at the bottom of the screen is displayed a couple of inches from the top. I have no way to see whether or not the message about the device drivers not loaded is shown. Again I had to turn the device off with the power button. X-precise runs on this chromebook with just the trackpad not working, but Carolina won't boot on this device (I'm thinking it could be the old kernel)

Can someone confirm if this lina with kernel 3.15 works on their PC?

Kernel 3.15 version works fine both as live cd and frugal install on my dual-core desktop.

Obligatory screenshot.....

Kernel 3.15 version works fine both as live cd and frugal install on my dual-core desktop.

My download checks out ok against the md5sum, I changed usb file format from ext4 to ext3 then to fat32... still getting same result. Might try a different usb flash drive and see how it goes.

Edit 23/06/14:
The same usb install managed to boot an old HP Compaq laptop which I find odd. Normally for me, testing on the HP C laptop fails where as it would go well for the Acer netbook.

One thing more, as peebee posted below, WiFi doesn't work

battleshooter wrote:Wow, that's unfortunate. And completely ironic. I seem to have a knack for deciding to say "I <3 Puppy XXXX" right before the project winds down. I did that to Saluki just before it closed down as well.

It's not dead but dormant, it's been slow for the simple fact it works ok as is, we were going to release a update,
but it would of only been updated installed applications, apart from LibreOffice most others can be updated with the latest versions from the repo,
it may have been wiser to leave LibreOffice out and just use the sfs option thus reducing the ISO by near half the size.

Here is whiskermenu that I recompiled, it now has the smallest icons selected as default and a different panel icon, much the same as rg66 now has in x-slacko, I retained the "Carolina" heading so that it changes color with the gtk theme.

battleshooter wrote:Carolina 1.2 with 3.15 kernel.

Support for Broadcom wifi seems to be missing....no B43 firmware and no wl driver.....

Sorry I haven't responded sooner. My internet has been down.

Thanks for all the feedback guys. Glad to hear the new kernel is working for you, Marv and James C.

yerc1, I was going to suggest you may have mixed up the the Carolina SFSs with the old kernel versions, but as the USB was able to boot on a different laptop I don't know why it couldn't load the zdrv on the Acer.

Ahh, the Broadcom drivers. Specifically, what are the models of your wireless cards peebee and yerc1? I need to read more into the old Carolina posts concerning Broadcom, but I'll work on a fix.

battleshooter wrote:Sorry I haven't responded sooner. My internet has been down.

Thanks for all the feedback guys. Glad to hear the new kernel is working for you, Marv and James C.

The more I use this the more I like it. Stable, the 2005 era Pentium M loves it, all of the saluki/lina polish and repo, xfce4.10, and verry verry sparing of resources on these middle aged laptops. I've stripped out acpid, swapped in the xfce4 battery monitor for vattery, and suspend to ram with a launcher calling sleep.sh. A minimalists delight!

... it may have been wiser to leave LibreOffice out and just use the sfs option thus reducing the ISO by near half the size. ...

This distro is NOT that big. LibreOffice brings a great, speedy, and stable office package to the table. (Wish others would do so too.)

The ONLY future addition that I would like to see is the addition of Full SAMBA provided by @01Micko to the OOTB base of this or as a PPM offering where it installs with a functioning Menu>Network>SAMBA Simple Management for easy new user startup (cost to size is more/less 10MB total,but benefit is huge for users who create or use content from here).

The prime idea is that any user who creates content in a home/household, with other devices that can use the content, can do so without need to install anything. The majority (99.999%) of ALL devices ever created for LANs did so with Microsoft/Apple in mind. SAMBA fixes that for Linux users.

This PUP distro is a shining star in what and how it offers user services.

Thanks again and again for what you guys have done since Saluki!

Finally some free time. Here's the kernel source for 3.15 and the new devx with the new kernel appropriate driver headers.

devx_lina_1.2_kernel-3.15.sfs
MD5:b3edf2992ac8897fedfd20917afd7ef4
kernel_sources-3.15-saluki.sfs
MD5:7d522508621483e1dcc82089e15df3b8

Well peebee, you appear to be the man/woman to go to for Broadcom drivers. I had a go at compiling the ones found here (version 6.30.223.141), and put wl.ko in a pet, have I done that right? I'm not really sure because I have none of the hardware to test it on.

Because of the changes to the kernel I had to apply this patch and the code change mentioned here, but other than that it appeared to compile cleanly.