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Did some experimenting.

Turns out you can edit the packages in the woof-out folder to take things out.

One question can you add a package to the local repository, and put that into
distro_specs ?

Just figured out why the slacko puppy is smaller.

It seems to use a xf86 server.

I am thinking using xvesa or tinyx would be smaller and faster.

I am sorry if it ia not possible. Can we make manjaropup using woof-ce?

I keep getting this url error when trying to use kernel-kit. I also one when fetching initrd_progs now. Maybe I'll try again later.

Sailor Enceladus wrote:I also one when fetching initrd_progs now.

See:
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... ssues/1151

Thanks peebee. I tried another vanilla puduan build with the latest woof-CE and it's working now. Here's the iso:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/bkuyi8b2nuth4qb
md5sum: ead14624d2097c804229b6800db885ad

Kernel 4.4.x is working for me in kernel-kit again. I got an error with 3.18.x branch this time about "Failed to compile aufs-util", might look into that one more later. edit: got it working using git.code.sf.net again (it uses aufs3.18 instead of aufs3.9).

Sailor Enceladus wrote:Thanks peebee. I tried another vanilla puduan build with the latest woof-CE and it's working now. Here's the iso:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/bkuyi8b2nuth4qb
md5sum: ead14624d2097c804229b6800db885ad

Thanks for this Sailor. I am not much into experimenting with other new Puppies, as Slacko 5.6 is the perfect distro - however I decided to try your Puduan for the heck of it and it seems pretty good. In particular it allowed me to connect my new Blackberry smartphone to my PC and access files, which indicates that the exfat enabling utilities and automount utilities are working correctly.

Making it easy to get stuff off my new phone without installing any pets etc.

Many thanks!

(BTW - posting from it now on a Toshiba M700)

recobayu wrote:I am sorry if it ia not possible. Can we make manjaropup using woof-ce?

Manjaro is based on Arch Linux. A while back there was a Arch based version of Puppy. It would be great there was a version of Puppy Linux which could use the AUR (https://aur.archlinux.org/).

According to Woof-CE v1.0 changelog Arch support has been dropped (I think it was broken anyhow):
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/w ... /CHANGELOG

Distro configuration files for woof-ce are in the 'woof-distro' folder:
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE

Info about Apups: http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Apup

Thanks greengeek.

I tried another slacko-14.0 build with the latest woof-CE here. One strange thing is that System and Setup on the menu are now the same icon (I think originally System was the wheel/gear thing?). I think I noticed this change on puduan recently too.

Sailor Enceladus wrote:I tried another slacko-14.0 build with the latest woof-CE here. One strange thing is that System and Setup on the menu are now the same icon (I think originally System was the wheel/gear thing?). I think I noticed this change on puduan recently too.

Hi Sailor - thanks for the updated Slacko 5.7 - looking good so far. Who knows - you (and CE) might bring me into the new century yet
If I am going to replace Slacko 5.6 with anything it may well be with an updated Slacko 5.7

With regard to the "system" menu icon, as far as I can tell, the icon is specified in /root/.jwmrc as "<Menu label="System" icon="/usr/share/pixmaps/puppy/preferences.svg" height="16">"

As you suggested /usr/share/pixmaps/puppy/preferences.svg does seem to be the same icon as is used for the Setup menu.

It is also the same as the icon "Utility-development.svg"

I would suggest that any of the following icons (from /usr/share/pixmaps/puppy) might be a better option for the "system" menu:

puppy_config.svg
puppy.svg
puppy_increase.svg
desktop_tray_config.svg
module_yes.svg
install_options.svg
properties.svg
startup_config.svg
startup_services.svg
execute_inspect.svg
properties.svg

I think my personal favourite is "puppy_config.svg". It combines the sense of "the whole puppy" combined with "set it up how you want".

But any of the options would be good too.

cheers!

OOps! "extension .svg is not allowed" - had to attach the icon as a jpg

Hmmmmm, does not look good as a .jpg.

Attached is a screenshot showing how the .png icon actually looks in real life:

Still not ok. Looks like a silly french moustache.

hmmm.

EDIT : I have changed my preference to "desktop_tray_config.svg".

I think it looks ok.

I took a stab at building an ArtfulPup, didn't change anything, made it
through to the end.

System: Host: puppypc15450 Kernel: 3.14.56 i686 bits: 32 Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: ArtfulPup 17.11
Machine: Device: desktop System: ACER product: Aspire M5620 v: R01-A4 serial: PTS860X0348050CF642700
Mobo: ACER model: G33T-AM v: 1.0 serial: 00000000 BIOS: American Megatrends v: R01-A4 date: 12/19/2007
CPU: Quad core Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1603/2403 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.5 driver: nvidia Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz, 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2 version: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 390.42
Network: Card: Intel 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e
Drives: HDD Total Size: 516.1GB (0.3% used)
Weather: Conditions: 27 F (-3 C) - Partly Cloudy Time: March 26, 8:14 AM EDT
Info: Processes: 145 Uptime: 58 min Memory: 616.1/8118.0MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.37

I chose the 3.14.56 pae kernel from tahrpup.
Installed kpat,vlc,smplayer/smtube,kodi with PPM.
Installed the proprietary nvidia driver.
Used the check dependencies utility in the setup menu along with PPM to get kodi running.

Works pretty well.
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EDIT: I changed the kernel and ended up deleting to old savefile in
order to install the propietary nvidia driver.
Re-installed kpat,smplayer/smtube,vlc,kodi,and more.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Tue 27 Mar 2018 on ArtfulPup 17.11 Linux 4.9.90 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.19.5
dimensions: 3840x1080 pixels (1049x292 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 390.42

I did a Slacko 32 bit build, it didn't exactly go smoothly I but had fun
working with it

# inxi -bw
System: Host: puppypc7935 Kernel: 4.9.90 i686 (32 bit) Desktop: Openbox 3.6.1 Distro: Slacko Puppy 6.9.9.9
Machine: Device: desktop System: ACER product: Aspire M5620 v: R01-A4 serial: PTS860X0348050CF642700
Mobo: ACER model: G33T-AM v: 1.0 serial: 00000000 BIOS: American Megatrends v: R01-A4 date: 12/19/2007
CPU: Quad core Intel Core2 Quad Q6600 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1603/2403 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430]
Display Server: X.org 1.18.3 driver: nvidia tty size: 122x37 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Intel 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (2.7% used)
Weather: Conditions: 39 F (4 C) - Overcast Time: March 28, 8:21 AM EDT
Info: Processes: 196 Uptime: 2:13 Memory: 539.7/8096.6MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
#
EDIT: JWM doesn't work properly (menu is empty) but Fb-box and icewm work okay.

Also discovered mtSnap, like it

I build xenialpup yesterday using this Wood ce. But i can not connected to wireless network on my campus. It used wpa 2 enterprise. But, i can connect using previous puppy like tahrpup, xenialpup 7.0.8.1. i think frisbee use different script now. That make trouble.

Solved.

Thank you.

I tried a new vanilla puduan-7.0.0 "b3" build with woof-CE today. Here's the iso:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/mjel7vy2hma8wgd
md5sum: d52261367a12edf2a9622c85f5b4eaf1

A few icons missing here and there. I use this as my backup/alternative OS for more modern stuff sometimes.

edit: I noticed that quite a few netpbm binaries are missing libnetpbm.so.10 somehow in it so the screeny utility doesn't work. Downloading "libnetpbm10_10.0-15.3+b2" manually from ppm fixes it.

Hi Sailor.

It's great to hear you're taking care of Puduan again!

Downloading now. TWYL.

Hello again, Sailor.

Don't take any of the following personally!

In short, this Puduan-7 thing of yours needs a good polish!

- pcmanfm as default file manager. ROX-Filer NOT default file manager.
This is not a Puppy! Or someone at woof-CE has fallen on his/her head
recently?

- ROX background not responding on 2nd boot; no right-click on desktop
available on 2nd boot.
--- had to go down to initial console and type xwin.

- No alternative WM !!! (IMO this version of jwm is the pits.)
- Can't get real full screen window with jwm at screen res. 1920x1080.
--- Waimea works great with it, though. No problem with screen resolution.

- Lxrandr.desktop NOT in menu? Why? It's in /usr/share/applications,
however.

- Wrong local time on 2nd boot (ok on 1st)

- Default themes, fonts and backgrounds are awful.

- You can't reduce the disk icons at bottom to one.
--- The former script to do that has been changed.

- Generally slow response. My compy too old ?

- QtWeb as browser? Just a stop-gap, I hope.
--- Vivaldi-1.14 works ok with it. Slow, but ok.

- lxterminal as console ? Yikes! You people hate me!
--- At least , provided urxvt is v. 9.22. Phew.

- The Exec entry in deadbeef.desktop is wrong. Should be straight
"deadbeef", not "/bin/deadbeef".

- ~/.gtkrc-mine doesn't seem to be picked up by GTK.

- No abiword, but Médor's sfs package for v. 3.0 runs ok.
- Not so for 01micko's gnumeric sfs; libspectre missing.

Still friends?

BFN.

musher0 wrote:Still friends?

Of course, I generally share your opinions about lxde/pcman stuff, removing options, the slowness of these 7.x puppies / larger puppies, etc. Interesting that abiword, gnumeric, inkscapelite have been removed, and I think osmo was never added, looks like sylpheed isn't there either, so most of the desktop icons don't work. Nice observation about the deadbeef entry in the menu too. And the jwm needs to be patched or reverted to fix this too before I would use it as a "stable" OS on my laptop. I haven't experienced the background and time issue you mentioned yet after rebooting but have seen them before somewhere too. On occasion I found that dragging a file from one folder to another doesn't work too, and keeps doing this animation where it drags it back to the original window instead. I think the browser has gone from dillo to netsurf to qtweb as the 7.0.0 versions went up, dillo was ok for me as a stop-gap but they're all amusing to see working in puppy I guess. I'm mostly using slimjet as browser with it currently, but the sfs is over 80MB. I post these isos in this thread because they are straight builds from woof-CE with no modifications, certainly this could use some polishing and someone to make it into their own like radky, OscarTalks and belham2 did with debian stretch. Thanks for the very thorough and informative post (this post was sent from QtWeb in this distro )

Hello again, Sailor.

Thanks for your reply.

Just a few more notes about that Puduan-7, if it can help the devs at
woof-CE or elsewhere.

-- I think it is not necessary to include the KingSoft Office and LibreOffice
*.desktop files until the user chooses one. If you put those, you should
put OpenOffice *.desktop files, too. So it is better, I think, not to have
any until the user installs the suite (s)he likes.

- if the libspectre library is installed from PPM, 01micko's sfs for gnumeric
will work. (I checked!)

- I still find xload, xcalc and xclock handy, and they are not included.

- on first run(s?), after an install, PPM seems to run in clrcles trying to
close. If you run it from console, you can see that it's looking for a file in
/tmp, and it's not finding it. So it starts this segment over and over and
over. I had to kill it, actually, for this to stop. It did install libspectre ok;
it's just this ending part that seems to be a problem.

- a bit of the same for petget. After installing a pet, the last info panel
stays on screen forever, it seems -- but it finally disappears.

- no profile.local file in /etc ? Could be a file with a minimum in it. I
mention it because newbies who use localization (i.e. non English-
speaking users) may need it. If it was there, even inactive, with a basic
template for their language in it, I think it would be appreciated. (What's
in /etc/profile concerning localization is a bit skimpy, IMO.)

TWYL.