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Hi pemasu

Running ice-005 on my ram challenged laptop and all seems fine.

Seems to run much faster than most other puppy's,
in fact seems faster than all - even the tiny puppy's.

Runs at about same temperature as other's too,
maybe a degree or so higher sometimes - that's all.

No excessive cpu activity - seems to be normal + a tiny bit
occasionally.

JFYI another hardinfo report - which I suspect you will understand
better than me.

Again - many thanks for all you do for us.

This could and should be a trend setting puppy,
as far as I can see (with my very limited knowledge of
puppy and linux generally) isn't this the way all future
puppy's should be built.

So far looks like a winner - everybody benefits.

Very best regards - Ray

screenshots?

kthxbye!

All seems very well. See reports if interest.

pemasu can I ask that you upload a DIFF file every time you release a new version. It will probably help the people with slow connections.

Thanks

pemasu wrote:James C. Good to know. I get nice low battery consumption with powertop.

I uploaded kernel stuff and kernel source sfs also
For those who would like to do kernel hopping or compile drivers.
Kernel pet is designed for woof building. To swap kernels, you need to extract it and use the files manually.
I havent done that, but James C is real expert on that.
I still believe that woof building is the right way so that there is no side effects. Of course result can be fine in manual switching, but you never know.
Anyway, this kernel could be useful for next spup with new kernel. Just a tip for James C.

Just grabbed all the kernel stuff. Now if the weather would cooperate....... more tornado warnings today. My nephew lives a few blocks away and a big funnel cloud passed right over his apartment about an hour ago. waiting for the pics.

It would be nice if people (pemasu) wouldn't embed pictures greater then 600 pixels wide.
So people with small screens (yes they still exist) won't have to side scroll to read postings.
Thank you for correcting.

No luck for the 005.
Got the message that the machine doesn't support the kernel (PAE)

Ran into a problem.......

Had a frugal install of Ice Puppy 004 on the old P4 test box w/ Intel 865 onboard graphics and it worked fine. While making my last post I replaced it with a manual frugal of 005.... deleted old save file.

On initial boot, X wouldn't start.Just to make sure something didn't get copied incorrectly I booted up the cd pfix=ram. Still no X. Hmmmm.

Just booted the 004 cd as I'm typing, no problem......looking at the Ice Puppy wallpaper right now.Guess I'll revert back to 004 right now since it's working.

EDIT:

Just booted into the frugal install of 004.....no problems.

Béèm wrote:No luck for the 005.
Got the message that the machine doesn't support the kernel (PAE)

Did you try 003 yet? It has regular non-PAE kernel.... also in the first post.

I did a frugal install of icepup 05 on my acer revo nettop computer.

sh-4.1# glxgears
525 frames in 5.0 seconds
643 frames in 5.0 seconds
627 frames in 5.0 seconds
625 frames in 5.0 seconds
sh-4.1#
sh-4.1# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Ice Puppy, version 005

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP79 Board - hornet-0 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video

I installed the devx and the kernel_src-2.6.38.2-lupe13.sfs but when I
went to install the proprietary nvidia ION driver I got an error
message about the nvidia fb already installed in the kernel
conflicting with the nvidia fb in the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-270.41.06.run
file.I've never seen that before and have no clue what to do about it.

*************************************************************************

The following is after installing the NVIDIA-Linux-x86-270.41.06.run
file in my wary 5.1.1 remaster on this acer revo.

# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
8580 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1715.992 FPS
8719 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1743.716 FPS
8796 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1759.100 FPS
8846 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1769.083 FPS
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Wary Puppy, version 511

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP79 Board - hornet-0 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:
#card0driver

Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth 24 Depth: "Display"

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

Other than that problem icepup 05 is working good on this pc, although
it does run a few degrees hotter than wary 5,1,1 and spup on this pc.
It's jumping between 65C and 66C just typing this in geany.

pemasu:
Where are the battery icons? They are not displayed on the system try of ice puppy 005. Startup file has the file powerapplet_try listed on it. It seems it does not load at bootup.

Just for testing purposes, I tried 005 in the Intel 865 box again pfix=ram. No X.
Added the "nomodeset" parameter. No X.
Added "xforcevesa" parameter. No X.

It's not just X not starting, it's killing everything. Ctrl/Alt/Bksp has no affect, necessary to do hard poweroff.CRT monitor by the way.

No problems with 004 though.

James C wrote:

Béèm wrote:No luck for the 005.
Got the message that the machine doesn't support the kernel (PAE)

Did you try 003 yet? It has regular non-PAE kernel.... also in the first post.

Yes the 003 is working.
I was just curious about the 005 (as the 004 didn't last long)

Béèm wrote:

James C wrote:

Béèm wrote:No luck for the 005.
Got the message that the machine doesn't support the kernel (PAE)

Did you try 003 yet? It has regular non-PAE kernel.... also in the first post.

Yes the 003 is working.
I was just curious about the 005 (as the 004 didn't last long)

Best as I can tell, there were some complaints/reports from some laptop users/testers so 004 was pulled and replaced with 005. 004 wurked fine for me on 4 different machines.... posting from it now.

It just gets stranger. Ice Puppy 005 live pfix=ram on an old P3 w/ Intel graphics.Everything working. Works on an old P3 but not on the P4....
Pretty slow though.
-Computer-
Processor : Pentium III (Coppermine)
Memory : 513MB (151MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sat 23 Apr 2011 07:08:11 PM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI i810E 20050821 x86/MMX/SSE
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - Intel 82801AA-ICH

VGA compatible controller : Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 (CGC) Chipset Graphics Controller (rev 03)

# glxgears
1157 frames in 5.0 seconds
1197 frames in 5.0 seconds
1193 frames in 5.0 seconds
1197 frames in 5.0 seconds
1171 frames in 5.0 seconds


fr# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 513536 499080 14456 0 16820
Swap: 1126396 12792 1113604
Total: 1639932 511872 1128060
#

Isn't testing fun.

Thank you all of the reports. It seems there is still work to do.
First notice. Highmem + PAE needs still tinkering. 005 is too incompatible to some hw. Also P4 machines are sensitive, they like i486 optimization like in 003. 005 was optimized for speed and I believe that is the reason for incompatibilities.

Did you notice in that screenshot that skype video testing shows webcam picture nicely. Well, my face is not probably that nice.........

Smokey01. I am not sure if it is good idea. I have no experience of delta files when there is different kernel. There are quite a lot sensitive stuff which have changed. So far kernel configuration has been changed with every release. At least it would be difficult for me to get accurate picture of what went wrong. I have already tried to minimize the factors by clearly stating not to use savefile when testing from previous build. It has definetely made problems. I am afraid delta file would do same.

Beem. Sorry, I did resize the pic to 1024x768. I guess I need to resize more. Unfortunately the pic is in my usb stick and not in use now.

James C. Thanks for testing in different hw. I will take the optimization down a little based on your reports. I will let 005 to the net, because it can be really fast for those who get it working.

Marco07. Powerapplet_tray probably seqfaults. It wont work for me. 1vattery still works for me and it is launched at bootup: /root/Startup/1vattery. Am I the only one getting Vattery in tray ?
Definetely the battery status on tray needs focus in the future. Thanks marco07.

I will take now a little brake and I will check the specs of wuxiandianzi from 2.6.38.3 kernel. There is possibility I will change into it.
wuxiandianzi send me email and told that it works fine for him. I suggested that I could mirror his kernel stuff in ftp site, if smokey01 accepts it ? I know you are reading this thread sometimes.

It looks like there is need for i486 without highmem + PAE and then another version with highmem + PAE but not every optimization at top.

When there is time I could make the ultimate optimized kernel for those who have hw which accepts that. Well, my laptop seems to swallow anything.

There is nonbooting reports too much so I start with brake and reading for awhile.

Making new kernel and build new Ice Puppy takes almost one day. Luckily now at Easter I have time. LOL.

Just realized I haven't tried 005 on the quad-core yet. Only 2 am here so I guess I can do a quick test.

Ice Puppy 005 live pfix=ram on the quad. This thing is fast.
Everything working on initial boot...... sound,internet and display (1366x768).


-Computer-
Processor : 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory : 3884MB (201MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.00
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Sun 24 Apr 2011 02:18:40 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Software Rasterizer
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia
-Input Devices-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse
Power Button
Power Button
PC Speaker
-Printers (CUPS)-
CUPS-PDF
pdf_writer : <i>Default</i>
-SCSI Disks-
ATA ST3250318AS
ASUS DRW-24B1ST


Audio device : nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2)

VGA compatible controller : nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a] (rev a2)

Bridge : nVidia Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2)

# glxgears
2148 frames in 5.0 seconds
1926 frames in 5.0 seconds
2170 frames in 5.0 seconds
2167 frames in 5.0 seconds
2166 frames in 5.0 seconds
2166 frames in 5.0 seconds
2137 frames in 5.0 seconds


# free
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 3884460 650780 3233680 0 72740
Swap: 0 0 0
Total: 3884460 650780 3233680
#