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Something to look into. Talk of a new kernel patch that does some very interesting changes.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=62053

Hi Stu, torrents are located in the download folder outside of the save file. I have a folder located outside of the save file containing folders labeled Downloads, Music, e books, Calibre (library), Misc and Pictures. I learned quite a while ago that I lost too much when I screwed up my Puppy.

Playing DVD's

Karl G made me aware of this--since I don't play DVD's very often I didn't know.

Anyway, it seems to me that a software DVD player should play the dvd just like a "real" dvd" player. I was very disappointed to find that gnome-mplayer and smplayer do not do that. This is another thing that everyone but me knew I am sure.

I spent most of yesterday investigating. Really, I think a linux distro ought to have a DVD player that works correctly.

Ogle does not work correctly with Openbox, but it does work correctly with JWM, and it is very small. Gxine prepared by Karl does work correctly to play dvd's in Openbox but it is too large to include in the distro. VLC plays them correctly and works with Openbox. "Playing correctly" means displaying all of the menus, at least--playing them like a standalone player *and* going to full screen correctly.

What do you DVD watchers think? Are there workarounds that you use? The simplest solution is to put both gxine and ogle in PPM.

Thanks.

??? Rename gxine to Xine DVD player and make up for the 2MB by taking something out of mplayer (the extra high performance files).

vlc has been my dvd and movie player all the time. It handles many codecs also. Also subtitles handling works fine. Only thing is to change fonts path to use puppy font aka select one. If there is need for one good player, i havent find better than vlc.

Size matters also. Vlc is big and it is already in repo. And there is now many 1.x vlc pets around murga-linux to use.

Because I need working subtitles handling, not many apps meets my criteria for both dvd and xvid avi use.

I very rarely play DVD's on the laptop so just had a go with 237 and the default gnome mplayer.

Insert DVD and i get a mounted CD on the desktop click on it and it opens with Gnome mplayer to the DVD menu, right click on the video screen and select full screen or press F key. Video plays ok from menu selection and no problems in full screen?

Ogle plays dvd movies well in Wary.

playdayz wrote:Playing DVD's

Karl G made me aware of this--since I don't play DVD's very often I didn't know.

Anyway, it seems to me that a software DVD player should play the dvd just like a "real" dvd" player. I was very disappointed to find that gnome-mplayer and smplayer do not do that. This is another thing that everyone but me knew I am sure.

I spent most of yesterday investigating. Really, I think a linux distro ought to have a DVD player that works correctly.

What do you DVD watchers think? Are there workarounds that you use? The simplest solution is to put both gxine and ogle in PPM.

Wow; I've been complaining about this since the beginning of
5.0, Quirky, Wary..

Took Barry a long time to see that mplayer sucks with dvd; even
though it's really good with everything else.

Ogle works great in the newest Wary for dvd, but the Gnome-Mplayer in Luci is better than the one in Wary for other stuff.

DVD Player

Happier with SMPlayer than VLC which is slower to me.
Plays everything FLV, wma, wmv, ....

http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/downloa ... tr_lang=en

How is it possible that when you download a program Puppy Package Manager and SFS GET do not work and Quickpet work fine? (See pic)
I refer to the previous post to say that the icons have reappeared when I changed the color depth from 16 to 24 bits in xorg.conf but all the other problems remain. (XPLNS not working yet)

http://smplayer.sourceforge.net/downloa ... tr_lang=en

http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/dis ... -Lucid.pet

Smplayer meets my criteria also. If there would not be vlc, then it would be Smplayer But it is also quite big, over 9 Mb.

Gnome-mplayer does not have timeline portable slider, it has preset time steps. Or is it editable from some configuration to make it slide portable ?

XineDVD DVD Player - Coming Very Soon to a Puppy PC Home Theater Near You!

A full-featured, dedicated DVD player. Insert the DVD. Start XineDVD. Click DVD on XineDVD. Use all the navigation keys: Skip, FF, etc. Menus work. F to toggle fullscreen. G to toggle controls. Extensive configuration options. Plays the whole DVD, even the dumb warnings. Downloadable skins.



Not to say a word against gnome-mplayer, Smplayer, VLC, or Ogle, all of which remain available. They will all play DVD's, but IMO they play them like a media player. XineDVD plays them like a DVD Player, which again IMHO, is what the "windows refugees" we talk about expect to see (my wife for instance I am comfortable with it also.

Personal Note: Xine was the first Linux software that in my experience *outperformed* Windows software. It could play discrete 4-channel when all the commercial Windows PowerDVD could do was that matrix surround. That was years ago of course.

eeepuppy wrote:How is it possible that when you download a program Puppy Package Manager and SFS GET do not work and Quickpet work fine? (See pic)
I refer to the previous post to say that the icons have reappeared when I changed the color depth from 16 to 24 bits in xorg.conf but all the other problems remain. (XPLNS not working yet)

2 questions

1) Is this downloading behaviour the same from every mirror? (Particular mainly to sfs_grab. Barry is, as we speak, improving the downloading for PPM. I believe Quickpet has set the bench mark)

2)What type of internet connection do you have?

Cheers

EDIT
eeepuppy -please try this patch. It incorporates Barry's new 'download_file' script.

Cheers

EDIT 2

Note: this is not the latest version of Barry's script, the latest will be in the nest woof. ftp mirrors will not work, but Barry has fixed this in the next version.

EDIT 3

I have made minor adjustments to sfs_grab so that when the new woof comes out it will take advantage of the new download_file script if installed or else just uses wget. This is in the latest quickpet, not implemented in this patch. The patch is for testing only. It works in all my testing, full or frugal.

Barry has done some changes to one of the boot scripts, /sbin/pup_event_backend_modprobe.
It has helped to cure the sound muted at boot, or network connection not remembered at bootup.
Get the pet here;
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 044#469044

Bugfix released Grub4DosConfig v1.6.2.
# 20nov10 v1.6.2: fix RAM mode, fix puppyoptions, single item for single windows, wubi support
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51697

helped to cure the sound muted at boot

improvement for me too - should be in the next Woof I hope . . .

Just returned to puppy after a few days away again and found more advancement.

I loaded the new version and noticed a few changes straightaway.

I saw reports of firewallstate not showing the firewall as active on reboot. It did this for me as well in my copy.

I suspect that the firewall is 'on' but the startup script order has changed or a minor startup change that causes firewallstate to report incorrectly.
I don't have much time available right now but will look into it.

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I had some photos I wanted to print via mtpaint and try as I might all that happened when I pressed print was a return to the program. No print activity , nothing. Is this a reported bug that's known ?

I have uploaded something *highly* experimental: it is a 60 MB PET package which supplies nothing more, and nothing less, than exactly those files and symlinks which exist in Macpup-511 but not in Lucid-511...and those which are newer in Macpup than in Lucid.

*In theory...* this PET should transform an existing Lucid into Macpup without losing user customizations. As for how you get your menu items into Enlightenment, well, God help you, I am not an Enlightenment guy, just a Clipper programmer. As they say at Boeing, let's send it up and see how it crashes. It is almost 3 AM here and I have not tested it.

Download:
http://myfreefilehosting.com/f/b416c35ef1_59.36MB
File name: lucid-511-to-macpup-511.pet
File size: 59.36MB
Description tags: Experimental PET package to upgrade lucid-511 to macpup-511
# md5sum lucid-511-to-macpup-511.pet
da75c7ec71b99f0acfed44c1d794883e lucid-511-to-macpup-511.pet

01micko wrote:

eeepuppy wrote:How is it possible that when you download a program Puppy Package Manager and SFS GET do not work and Quickpet work fine? (See pic)
I refer to the previous post to say that the icons have reappeared when I changed the color depth from 16 to 24 bits in xorg.conf but all the other problems remain. (XPLNS not working yet)

2 questions

1) Is this downloading behaviour the same from every mirror? (Particular mainly to sfs_grab. Barry is, as we speak, improving the downloading for PPM. I believe Quickpet has set the bench mark)

2)What type of internet connection do you have?

Cheers

EDIT
eeepuppy -please try this patch. It incorporates Barry's new 'download_file' script.

Cheers

EDIT 2

Note: this is not the latest version of Barry's script, the latest will be in the nest woof. ftp mirrors will not work, but Barry has fixed this in the next version.

EDIT 3

I have made minor adjustments to sfs_grab so that when the new woof comes out it will take advantage of the new download_file script if installed or else just uses wget. This is in the latest quickpet, not implemented in this patch. The patch is for testing only. It works in all my testing, full or frugal.

I installed the patch and I rebooted the computer, but unfortunately
I have seen no improvement.
Are connected to the internet with a ADSL modem router.
I tried downloading from several mirrors to no avail.
Qickpet works perfectly except SFS-GRAB.

eeepuppy

Thanks for the screenshot... I think I know the solution

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Does anyone remember the initial testing of quickpet when aarf had a problem with ipv4 and ipv6? I think that's what we are seeing here, and I bet it has been going on for awhile with PPM, just unreported. Some work needs to be done!

Cheers

tasmod wrote:I wanted to print via mtpaint and try as I might all that happened when I pressed print was a return to the program

What works for me:
Install gtklp-1.2.5. from ppm and change in mtpaint: File ->Actions-> Configure-> Print image from "kprinter %f" to "gtklp %f".

HTH

Rolf