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Posted: **Thu 31 Mar 2011, 20:26**

Sylpheed is offered as a menu item in both "Internet" and "Network". Is the Network entry normal?

Posted: **Thu 31 Mar 2011, 20:32**

You know, sometimes the small problems get overlooked trying to solve the big problem.

Posted: **Thu 31 Mar 2011, 20:44**

Pwidgets for Quickpet and PPM.

Pwidgets is now at version 2.3.5
A lot of bug fixes.

Posted: **Thu 31 Mar 2011, 21:50**

Rox running slowly.

I got it. 01micko explains in Shinobar's Wary thread. It comes from renaming /etc/hosts and not /etc/hostname, or vice versa.

Posted: **Thu 31 Mar 2011, 21:53**

Sylpheed is offered as a menu item in both "Internet" and "Network". Is the Network entry normal?

One entry is normal. Just missed it until now.

Posted: **Thu 31 Mar 2011, 22:09**

Iron 10 browser
Has menu entry in Network and Internet.

Posted: **Thu 31 Mar 2011, 22:26**

Iron 10 browser
Has menu entry in Network and Internet.

Dude, you're the greatest. This one I can fix in the pet (not in the distro)--that makes it easy! Using Iron 10 now--it *is* fassssst.

I was able to get Sylpheed too cowboy. That minute and a half has got to be a good clue for someone on the sound. Firewallstate comes up slowly--it could be blocking. delayedrun could take a while to finish--those are just wild guesses. We probably couldn't change anything now though unless it was a slam dunk (famous last words

Is your 521RC a fresh install?

BTW, Has anyone tried Iron 10 with videos? It is large because it contains its own video codecs!

Posted: **Thu 31 Mar 2011, 22:45**

Found something unusual about my wifi connection dropping
after 15+ minutes of inactivity.

It's only happening on this Dell 700m; Luci-Lupu wifi are stable on
the PowerSpec pc.

Still not a problem on the laptop with rcrsn51 "stay connected" .pet.

Posted: **Thu 31 Mar 2011, 23:01**

Still not a problem on the laptop with rcrsn51 "stay connected" .pet.

Should we add that to the distro so that it would be there for anyone who had problems.? I am thinking, Yes. But I am lazy, can someone provide the link? Thanks.

Posted: **Thu 31 Mar 2011, 23:06**

can someone provide the link

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=63004

Go to your /root/Startup folder and make a script called stay-connected. Add these lines

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#!/bin/sh
while [ 1 ]; do
ping -c 1 8.8.8.8
sleep 30
done

Possible to change sleep30...

Posted: **Thu 31 Mar 2011, 23:14**

playdayz wrote:
Still not a problem on the laptop with rcrsn51 "stay connected" .pet.
Should we add that to the distro so that it would be there for anyone who had problems.? I am thinking, Yes. But I am lazy, can someone provide the link? Thanks.

The .pet.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 395#477395

Might add; I was not having "reboot" connection loss.

Posted: **Thu 31 Mar 2011, 23:37**

This installs stay-connected and makes a menu item under Internet. I did not want it to run unless the user wanted to start it. That's one thing about Puppy, running as little overhead as possible. Was it Lucid 5.2 we were able to remove hald (hal daemon) and then found immediately that we had to include the libhal (but still not the daemon). That's why we are small and fast yet still full-featured!

When you click it in the menu, it works. It guess it needs a splash so people know.

Edit: No, I will put it in PPM under Internet--if people install it will run. If they don't want it they can uninstall.

Posted: **Fri 01 Apr 2011, 00:43**

On PUP522, QuickPET>More PETs>Update PPM. when it completes, it instructs to reboot. Since I'm on a LiveCD, Is this a one-time occurrance or will I be required to REBOOT each time this is invoked?

Thanks in advance

Posted: **Fri 01 Apr 2011, 01:43**

gcmartin wrote:On PUP522, QuickPET>More PETs>Update PPM. when it completes, it instructs to reboot. Since I'm on a LiveCD, Is this a one-time occurrance or will I be required to REBOOT each time this is invoked?

Thanks in advance

With live cd (or usb) you have to make a save file somewhere or
it's starting from fresh each time.

Posted: **Fri 01 Apr 2011, 02:04**

rjbrewer wrote:Found something unusual about my wifi connection dropping
after 15+ minutes of inactivity.

It's only happening on this Dell 700m; Luci-Lupu wifi are stable on
the PowerSpec pc.

Still not a problem on the laptop with rcrsn51 "stay connected" .pet.

You know laptops are always trying to save power. Could a bios setting be causing this?

Posted: **Fri 01 Apr 2011, 02:43**

gcmartin,

Of course you know it won't be persistent if you don't reboot and save. The main reason for the reboot is that if you have started PPM then none of the files for PPM in /tmp will be overwritten. Really PPM should have it's own mechanism for updating whatever repo you want instead of going through the lot, but that's up to BarryK.

~

I made a splash for 'stay-connected' and made an important change to the script. It was filling up /tmp/xerrs.log, I redirected the output to /dev/null. It also runs from /root/Startup and can be turned off. I have also reduced the chances of the process running more than once with a wrapper script.
Change to main script:

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#!/bin/sh
while [ 1 ]; do
 ping -c 1 8.8.8.8 >/dev/null 2>&1
 sleep 30
done

EDIT: I'll leave ver 2.0 up but rcrsn51 pointed out the the address being pinged may not be to some users liking. The new address is 149.20.4.69 in ver 3.0, it's to an open source site, I'll leave you to search it out

. Everything else is the same.

Posted: **Fri 01 Apr 2011, 02:46**

rjbrewer wrote:
gcmartin wrote:On PUP522, QuickPET>More PETs>Update PPM. when it completes, it instructs to reboot. Since I'm on a LiveCD, Is this a one-time occurrance or will I be required to REBOOT each time this is invoked?

Thanks in advance
With live cd (or usb) you have to make a save file somewhere or
it's starting from fresh each time.

One of the advantages of a LiveDVD is security, which would be negated by having a save file which malware could modify.

One of the few head-to-head advantages Puppy has over Microsoft Windows is usable LiveDVD security. Puppy is the only known LiveDVD with the ability to add file changes to the boot DVD, and so to configure and update the browser over time. That makes Puppy the current best choice for all on-line banking (or it would be, if we could fix the problems which make Puppy use difficult for an ordinary user). So if the DVD update advantage has not been retained by PPM, it would seem that we either have a PPM problem, or a DVD Save problem, or both.

Posted: **Fri 01 Apr 2011, 03:17**

bigpup wrote: That was something that had to be done to Firewall status.
Make it delay working, to give time for the network to come on line.
Take a look next time you reboot.
Firewall status will show up in tray about 30 seconds after you get a desktop.

Maybe the firewall should be in place all the time, and then status would always be available. The firewall could be explicitly turned off, of course, or modified, as the user desired.

The current scheme of on the one hand: requiring network access to get drivers, and on the other: not having a firewall on by default, is a vital failure. The firewall needs to be up by default before the first network transaction is allowed.

Posted: **Fri 01 Apr 2011, 03:18**

made a splash for 'stay-connected' and made an important change to the script. It was filling up /tmp/xerrs.log, I redirected the output to /dev/null. It also runs from /root/Startup and can be turned off. I have also reduced the chances of the process running more than once with a wrapper script.

Thanks 01micko, so it should be in the distro then, you think? Seems that we have some time

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I have been answering my own question: How does Iron 10 work with videos? My wife just watched an hour of Grateful Dead videos, full screen, with not a hiccup in Iron 10 and Luci-522 on youtube.

Posted: **Fri 01 Apr 2011, 04:01**

bigpup wrote:
rjbrewer wrote:Found something unusual about my wifi connection dropping
after 15+ minutes of inactivity.

It's only happening on this Dell 700m; Luci-Lupu wifi are stable on
the PowerSpec pc.

Still not a problem on the laptop with rcrsn51 "stay connected" .pet.
You know laptops are always trying to save power. Could a bios setting be causing this?

This bios is dependent on os for any type of power control.
Pent. M 725 speedstep.

It only drops connection with Lupu-luci.
Wary and 4.xx installs don't have the problem.

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sylpheed menu item