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Posted: Sun 10 Feb 2013, 07:13
by gcmartin
Don't know how many others have notice, but SLACKO 5.4.02 has a much improved version of HARDINFO. The first 2 pages is a great view of your system if no-one has noticed. Just GREAT.

One issue that still plagues PUPs is the FirstRUN. If does NOT give opportunity to tailor the Network section when a LAN cable is not physically plugged in. The network section really should appear in all cases as many laptop users when setting up Slacko would need it just as much as desktop. WiFi is still a LAN technology, same as wired.

I am very-very impressed overall.

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JAVA PPM messages

Posted: Mon 11 Feb 2013, 17:09
by gcmartin
I know that you are aware of this missing libs issue with JAVA version 7 when using the Puppy Slacko Repo. I noticed today with a REPO update to PPM, that on this pristine boot, Puppy Slacko REPO is returning JAVA version 6 for selection.

Just wanted to bring attention that the PPM is giving the same message on version 6 as it did for version 7. Again, I am sure you are already aware.

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Posted: Mon 11 Feb 2013, 17:13
by SFR
Hey Mick, just FYI:
Returning to the BUG for a while...
http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/precis ... rc7-nopae/
Many trials - no hangs.
Alpha1 with k3.2.29 still has it though.

Greetings!

SAMBA4

Posted: Mon 11 Feb 2013, 19:26
by gcmartin
Tested SAMBA4.OOTB is works perfectly. That is, after install, the setup screen pops, Fills in appropriate for local needs, and am able to log in from a remote LAN PC without ANY issues.

There are 2 items that I believe others have also shared. After installation,
  1. Menu entry is missing.
  2. SAMBA4 is NOT showing up in the PPM
This system's uses was very smooth
  • Booted CD
  • Ran FirstRUN
  • Configured PPM
  • Installed JAVA, FLash, Chromium from PPM
  • Downloaded SAMBA4 PET from Ibiblio (mirrors do not have it, yet)
  • Installed, configured and tested SAMBA4
  • Complete Tailoring desktop
I know that the FirstRUN is BarryK's tool for development, but someone offered what I think is a good idea as it has wide "ease of use" for us. If the mouse configuration could be added to FirstRUN this would make so much easier for those users who have limited navigation/knowledge skills, while delivering the great opening experience that its already designed for. Just an idea.

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Posted: Mon 11 Feb 2013, 22:04
by don570
I tried Wheezy and the newest Slacko with an old nvidia video card
nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400]
and it boots perfectly with nouveau driver 8)

unlike Exprimo and Fluppy :cry:
which sometimes would boot to black screen
if I tried to use nouveau.

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VIDEO REPORT: Slacko Puppy, version 5.4.0.2

Chip description:
oem: NVidia
product: NV10 Reference Board Chip Rev A1

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf: 
  Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1440x900
  Depth (bits, or planes):              24
  Modules requested to be loaded:       dbe 

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
  Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
  Loaded modules: dbe dri dri2 exa extmod fb glx kbd mouse record shadowfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
  Resolution:  1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
  Depth:       24 planes


01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
	Subsystem: nVidia Corporation Device 0052
	Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0
	Kernel driver in use: nouveau

Posted: Mon 11 Feb 2013, 22:11
by 01micko
Next beta is out

See main post

Posted: Mon 11 Feb 2013, 22:17
by zigbert
known issue --new gtkdialog-splash has a bug where screen position if not top or center is not respected
Please explain, and I can look to it (I am sorry, but I don't understand what you mean). Can you point me to an example?


Sigmund

Posted: Mon 11 Feb 2013, 22:21
by 01micko
Hi Sigmund

In frisbee, rerwin has calls to bottom and bottom-right bottom-left (IIRC), frisbee is included in the latest which you can use because a graphics driver exists :wink: Pemasu saw this trouble too with frisbee.

When those calls are made JWM does the cascading placement. Hope I'm clear enough, just have to rush out, just caught your post!

EDIT if you change lines 233 and 238 to Y=`expr $ROOTY - 90` #was 70 it works but top-right still shows in center and so does bottom-right.

Posted: Mon 11 Feb 2013, 22:55
by James C
01micko wrote:Next beta is out

See main post
Downloaded non-pae......... md5 good. Testing to commence after some food. :lol:

Posted: Mon 11 Feb 2013, 23:25
by James C
Fresh manual frugal install of non-pae. It works.
What's up with the gigantic fonts? Had to take my glasses off and back away from the monitor.... :lol:

More testing later.

EDIT:
One click took care of that little problem. :)

Posted: Mon 11 Feb 2013, 23:31
by James C
# report-video
Report Video 1.4 - Mon 11 Feb 2013 on Slacko Puppy 5.4.0.3 - Linux 3.2.33-4g i686

Chip description:
0.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 440 AGP 8x] (rev c1)
oem: NVidia
product: NV18 () Board Chip Rev A2

X Server: Xorg Driver used: nouveau

X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
1621 frames in 5.0 seconds = 324.064 FPS
1663 frames in 5.0 seconds = 332.506 FPS
1762 frames in 5.0 seconds = 352.294 FPS
1742 frames in 5.0 seconds = 348.359 FPS
1610 frames in 5.0 seconds = 321.992 FPS

Posted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 04:25
by James C
No real problems have appeared yet. Have installed Conky, VLC and SeaMonkey (made it the default browser) and a couple of other pets....everything appears to be working fine.
Pretty uneventful testing so far.

Posted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 04:47
by 01micko
The fonts are 96dpi, it's an option in woof, I changed rox fonts to 10 and gtk fonts to 10, to offset it a bit. Anyway thought I'd give it a try :lol:

Posted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 04:53
by James C
01micko wrote:The fonts are 96dpi, it's an option in woof, I changed rox fonts to 10 and gtk fonts to 10, to offset it a bit. Anyway thought I'd give it a try :lol:
At least it was really easy to change back....... :)

Posted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 06:48
by James C
Another frugal install,,,,,same results. No problems.

# report-video
Report Video 1.4 - Tue 12 Feb 2013 on Slacko Puppy 5.4.0.3 - Linux 3.2.33-4g i686

Chip description:
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
oem: Intel(r)865G Graphics Chip Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(r)865G Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver used: intel

X.Org version: 1.12.3
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
378 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.414 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.141 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.145 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.143 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.143 FPS

-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 2592MB (174MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Puppy Linux
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Tue Feb 12 00:49:48 2013
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 865G x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : ICH4 - Intel ICH5

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:       2592796       545412      2047384            0        75596
-/+ buffers:             469816      2122980
Swap:      4198396            0      4198396
# 

Posted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 09:24
by ETP
James C
James C wrote:
01micko wrote:The fonts are 96dpi, it's an option in woof, I changed rox fonts to 10 and gtk fonts to 10, to offset it a bit. Anyway thought I'd give it a try :lol:
At least it was really easy to change back....... :)
In order to obtain the benefit of 01Micko's experimental change to 96 dpi you do need to stick with 96 dpi and then engage all the options in fontwizard if you have a LCD display. (Then restart X)

In addition in Rox filer/pinboard/options/ select "no shadow" and increase the font size to 12 -- you may prefer bold. Then restart X again.

Posted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 09:45
by zigbert
I have looked at gtksplash, and tried several solutions, but the text-widget is hard to fight. - It lives a bit on its own.

- I tried to set a hardcoded width of gtksplash and force the text to wrap at ie 20 chars. The text wraps correctly, but the splash-window still wouldn't be placed to the right.
- The text-widget has a builtin wrap formula. This one works if x-placement is set far enough to the left, but this could not be called top-right if text is short.
- Tried to override with the <window> attribute 'default-width', but no go.
- The only way I found to override the strange text-widget behavior, is to define window size in the gtkdialog --geometry parameter. BUT since this require both width and height this fails when text wraps and need more height.

I see in the code that top(center) and top-right is getting the same settings, so the original author has met this limitation before. I don't think this is a specific behavior of my updated gtkdialog-splash code.


?
Sigmund

Posted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 09:57
by 01micko
zigbert wrote: ?
... you got my "fix" for bottom though.. right?


I guess the other options are left in there to be compatible with the yaf-splash wrapper.

Posted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:13
by zigbert
Mick
Yes I got your fixes. Do you want me upload your fixes in my 'Suggested codelines' thread.... yes, I think so.

I forgot to mention I also made an alternative with an extended gtkrc file to get rid of the <span> attribute. But this had no effect on the placement issue. I have earlier had trouble with the <span> defining extra required space for the window.


Sigmund

Posted: Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:15
by zigbert
Also
Be aware that the bottom fix does not fix the case where text contains more than one line.


Sigmund