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Posted: Mon 20 Jun 2011, 08:10
by dejan555
Same here, even before woof and deb support in ppm I used to manually download stuff from deb repos and dependencies and then undeb / deb2pet them or if it's large number of deps just undeb and merge all of them and make one package, that's how I made amarok sfs back on 4.x series from debs.

BTW, this one still work on dpup 485:
amarok-1.4.10-lite-dpup_484.sfs 33 MBs

Posted: Fri 08 Jul 2011, 01:42
by harii4
Any plans for an dpup barebones?
That would be neat to have one.

Posted: Fri 08 Jul 2011, 07:29
by Iguleder
I started working on a Debian Testing dpup, I need a good testing ground for new ideas I have.

If it's any good, I'll upload it and make some good packages you can use too.

Posted: Fri 08 Jul 2011, 07:59
by dejan555
New idea: make a barebones one from the start! Then maybe a sfs for standard apps that come with puppy and browser chooser? :lol:

Once I stripped 484's sfs down to about 112 MB but I removed almost all apps with only dillo as browser. It could be stripped further but didn't know what libs to remove.

Posted: Fri 08 Jul 2011, 09:45
by Iguleder
Yep, that's the idea - I want a barebones dpup so I can build all apps using build scripts and make it a rolling-release, upgradeable Puppy by design.

Posted: Fri 08 Jul 2011, 10:11
by Stripe
iguleder and dejan555

I really like what I am reading here, a puppy with packages compiled for individual machines, good luck

stripe

Posted: Fri 08 Jul 2011, 15:28
by Béèm
Iguleder,
That idea of puppizard looks nice.
Would it generate the application inside the save file or is/will there be a possibility to create a sfs?

Posted: Thu 14 Jul 2011, 22:26
by darkcity
added to wiki, update and expand as you like ; -)
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/DPup485

Posted: Sat 16 Jul 2011, 09:18
by Iguleder
Good news, dejan555 - I was able to build a working barebones dpup at ~80 MB, no apps except JWM and ROX-Filer. The kernel is 2.6.32.42, since 2.6.32.43 failed to build on Lupu. I'm going to give it another try, but on dpup, because I like its GCC better :)

Now I'm running Puppizard to build all the latest Puppy apps, fonts and E17. I might upload it if it's any good.

It seems very very very snappy, Opera flies on my cheap netbook. Too bad I can't measure its RAM usage, I left Pprocess out :lol:

EDIT: forgot to mention - I stripped about ~10-15 MB of unneeded libraries and leftovers and had to fix X, because it couldn't start with a vanilla Woof.

EDIT 2: goot stuff! Built E17 and all its dependencies - now I'm doing a fixed build with things like git working (they were broken earlier), without any apps except E17, Opera and Aterm :D

Posted: Sat 16 Jul 2011, 11:12
by dejan555
That's cool Iguleder.
dpup's devx should be good, I managed to build kernel with your kernel build script on 485 and also compiled git.
I was wondering if you can still build from lenny repos with woof? A barebones lenny dpup would be cool, then I would update gtk and stuff I did for 485 and that would be good base for older PCs.

Posted: Sat 16 Jul 2011, 12:11
by Iguleder
Theoretically it's possible, but the main problem is the old packages. Many package templates were altered to suit things like Xorg 7.5, so you'll have to go a very long way to sort out all problems the old packages being.

I'm uploading my barebones dpup at the moment, I think it's really nice.

Posted: Sat 23 Jul 2011, 07:37
by Iguleder
dejan555, I'm uploading a huge bunch of dpup packages built on Squeeze to here. It's pretty much all the traditional Puppy desktop (plus the artwork and all nice stuff we had in Puppy Squeeze), with nice extras and lighter/smaller alternatives. They should work well with 485 too :)

Now I'm working on ffmpeg, I want to get ffmpeg, xine and gxine so I can upload something equivalent to Puppy Squeeze 010 :wink:

So far it's 100 MB with DRI, Opera and all these packages, but without the multimedia stack. All I need is to get those to work and I think it's ready to be tagged as dpup 5.0 beta :D

And btw - it consumes 47 MB when you first reach the desktop, according to LXTask ... go dpup! :D

Posted: Sat 23 Jul 2011, 07:39
by dejan555
Cool, I might try e17 on 485 :)

Posted: Sat 23 Jul 2011, 07:51
by Iguleder
Oh, forgot to mention - I want to rebuild the fonts SFS (the one with the 100 fonts) and the LibreOffice SFS. Can't do this at the moment, since my netbook is busy compiling both the kernel (2.6.32.43, vanilla) and ffmpeg at the same time :lol:

If I find time, I'll rebuild BlueZ, Linux-PAM, Lua and E17. :wink:

Ntfs Partition write Access

Posted: Sat 30 Jul 2011, 11:49
by backi
Why can i not get write-access to my ntfs drive partition.
The same in Dpup-Macpup. (not possible to delete something for example)

Can anybody help?

Posted: Sat 30 Jul 2011, 18:47
by dejan555
ntfs in 485 worked just fine here. (Not having ntfs partition anymore but it worked just fine)

Posted: Sun 21 Aug 2011, 14:09
by treken
Can you pleeeez make this a 64 bit version as I needed a debian puppy for my 64 bit system.

Posted: Sun 21 Aug 2011, 14:21
by dejan555
Sorry, but no. You should still be able to run it on 64-bit machine, but if you really want a 64-bit system take a look at fatdog 64, I believe that's the only 64-bit puppy at the moment.

Posted: Sun 21 Aug 2011, 14:31
by treken
So I can use the apt-get command in your distro?

Posted: Sun 21 Aug 2011, 14:44
by treken
Also, if I can use apt-get command in your distro, is there a way to get it to work in fat dog?