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Jim1911 · #101 Post by **Jim1911** » Fri 18 Dec 2009, 01:32

pemasu,

If you are using the Mariner sfs, Thunderbird is already included and will update itself to the latest version.

Jim

tazoc · #102 Post by **tazoc** » Fri 18 Dec 2009, 02:23

Jim and Pemasu,
Thanks for the info, I made a note to include Tbird 3.0 in the next Mariner release.
Merry Christmas,
TazOC

diabetico · #103 Post by **diabetico** » Fri 18 Dec 2009, 02:42

Greetings,

My wife and I are really enjoying LHP. Friend gave us an older Vaio laptop and everything works great except for screen brightness. It's a wireless manual switch laptop with an 80 gb drive, upgraded Ram to 1 GB, and a nice gift! Only drawback is no keyboard / function key optimization of brightness.

I have tried changing gamma in xorgsetup or xorg config, whatever that text file is, but it only makes it less dark, rather than brighter. Need it brighter as color is looking extremely washed out. I've been a puppy / derivative fan for a long time and it's nice to have her recognize that a side interest has it's uses.

Also, no complaints with anything other than the open office apps (after I added the sfs files) shortcuts in the form of bix red Xs were in the middle of her screen. I deleted them to no detriment. I love the bar at the top, but she wants it customized. Can someone point me to an easy self-explanatory post for that? I've been kicked off the Vaio onto my EEE netbook. Thanks for the hard work, it is very appreciated. Don't have cash to send this Christmas, but if you're in the Philly area, I make some good apple butter that I'd love to gift.

Cheers

jasmac · #104 Post by **jasmac** » Fri 18 Dec 2009, 03:12

Hi again, I installed to updated icewm pets and as far as I can tell they worked fine. There were changes to the panel bar, as you can see on the screeny I included, but apart from that there is nothing that I can pick as being different or not working. Some of the original themes may need some tweaking as the font and other things were a bit out of whack. The current theme I am using, odelite, is very nice. Well I have everything set up the way I like it and have not hit one problem. Thanks again TazOC.

Cheers

Jason

Sage · #105 Post by **Sage** » Fri 18 Dec 2009, 06:10

I made a note to include Tbird 3.0 in the next Mariner release

This would be a retrograde step, indeed. Thunderbird is bloated and has serious flaws (don't ask, I forget - I gave up on it years ago and understand it hasn't been remodelled sufficiently since).
The smart choice is Claws, especially since it split off from Sypheed.

pemasu · #106 Post by **pemasu** » Fri 18 Dec 2009, 18:34

About Thunderbird. I use mail client for receiving meils and sending meils. Folder structure and addresbook are also good features. Almost every mail client can do that.
Thunderbird 3.0 seems to work as meil client also.

It is good that there is different clients for different needs.

All the best and Merry Christmas

Barburo · #107 Post by **Barburo** » Fri 18 Dec 2009, 18:50

Hi Tazoc,
Unmounting, then remounting the partition allowed me to access the ntfs partition read/write. I've done a diskcheck from the other side (Win***) but I still get the initial problem.
LXDE lost the background screen, I couldn't get menus in openbox, KDE4 looks great, (love your logon screen) but a noticable performance hit on a slower 1Gh test box.
Still testing - will let you know anything more I find.

On the email discussion - I use 3, sometimes 4 machines and I also need to check mail from other places. Trying to use a locally-based email product like Thunderbird was difficult to coordinate. Plus the regular internet-based mail access functions from most mail address providers get out of step with what's on your local machine, are all different, and are generally clunky to use.
I've found that Gmail (from Google) is the answer and I use it exclusively now. A fantastic spam filter, more space than most people need for free (6.5Gb), you can find any message in a snap, and it goes and gets the contents of my 4 different mail accounts and consolidates them into one central repository. All anyone needs is a browser. Gmail has a slightly different mail paradigm that takes a little getting used to, but it works! I use the calendar too and share it with others.
I'm for the cloud.
B.

pemasu · #108 Post by **pemasu** » Fri 18 Dec 2009, 22:48

For me unmounting and remounting ntfs partitions is also needed for read/write. It is troublesome, when you are for example saving to ntfs partition or downloading from the net. All clients dont warn, if the saving wasnt succesful.

tazoc · #109 Post by **tazoc** » Sat 19 Dec 2009, 01:34

diabetico,
Your feedback is much appreciated. The bar at the top is called wbar and there is no easy way to configure, but if you click the 'Edit Wbar' icon it will open the text file that defines each icon image, title associated and the command that is executed when clicking on the that icon. There are also comments there to help you get started. It would be nice if there was a point-and-click configuration for wbar but I haven't seen one. Mmm apple butter sounds good!

Barburo,
LXDE has its own wallpaper, right-click on the desktop to change. Openbox menus also open with a right-click on its desktop.

I haven't been able to reproduce the ntfs problem, is that with Automount enabled by chance? If so I'll compare the code with that in Pmount. I'm in the habit of disabling it right-off and using /etc/rc.d/rc.local to specify only the linux drives I want mounted. I keep a custom version of rc.local for my box on another drive and drag and drop it in each clean install. Or does the problem occur when mounting with Pmount or with the drive icons on the desktop? I will do my best to sort it out.

I'm also hooked on gmail, and I don't have any accounts that can't be accessed on the web.
-TazOC

Sage · #110 Post by **Sage** » Sat 19 Dec 2009, 04:47

Gmail is another one to avoid according to the pundits. Google has come under heavy scrutiny about ethics, security, etc. Apart from which, if your friends and family send you jpeg attachments, 6.5Gb is soon going to look mean. I remember in the olden days running foul of the OE absolute limit on email storage - when full, it overwrites some of your most valuable archive. The main tragedy has been the failure to have Eudora ported to *nixes before being gifted to the Mozilla Foundation who have, arguably, neutered it with a lame excuse of incorporation into their ongoing projects (Thunderbird!). Another example of transatlantic vested interests screwing good science?

jasmac · #111 Post by **jasmac** » Sat 19 Dec 2009, 10:59

Hi all, I have some new backgrounds to celebrate the latest LHP. All and any comments, advice, criticisms are more than welcome.

Cheers

jason

pemasu · #112 Post by **pemasu** » Sat 19 Dec 2009, 11:22

Ntfs partititon read/write. The ntfs partitions are automounted. Well, the automounting is something I havent enabled purposely. No drive icons on the desktop. I use Pmount to unmount and remount drives.
Where can I disable automounting ?

Jim1911 · #113 Post by **Jim1911** » Sat 19 Dec 2009, 16:41

tazok wrote:Your feedback is much appreciated. The bar at the top is called wbar and there is no easy way to configure, but if you click the 'Edit Wbar' icon it will open the text file that defines each icon image, title associated and the command that is executed when clicking on the that icon. There are also comments there to help you get started. It would be nice if there was a point-and-click configuration for wbar but I haven't seen one. Mmm apple butter sounds good!

01micko developed a point and click script to handle wbar that works well with dpup see http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=49473. It may work well for Lighthouse. However your "Edit Wbar" is sufficient for the more experienced user.

Cheers,
Jim

tazoc · #114 Post by **tazoc** » Sat 19 Dec 2009, 20:45

Jasmac,
Very nice wallpapers; thank you! I really like the one in your screenshot here. I'll post it on the gallery shortly.

Pemasu,
You can disable Automount from an icon in /mnt or Automount-setup in the Utilities menu in KDE. I will do some testing with it enabled and then review the code. Thank you for your feedback.

Jim1911,
Sounds good, I'll try it out, thanks for the link.
-TazOC

jasmac · #115 Post by **jasmac** » Sat 19 Dec 2009, 22:55

Hi TazOC, thanks. Here is a link to the background in the screeny. It is a bit big for upload here.

Cheers

Jason

http://i45.tinypic.com/f3esk1.jpg

tazoc · #116 Post by **tazoc** » Sun 20 Dec 2009, 19:36

Jason,
Thank you--it's on my desktop now. Is it OK if I include f3esk1 in the next release?

Barburo & pemasu,
I found out why Automount was not allowing write access to ntfs partitions, and will include a fix in upcoming release 4.43d. It was caused by an omission of one line in rc.sysinit, because I hadn't completely thought through the implications of recent multi-user updates. I'm glad you found this bug because it led me to another multi-user bugfix and I learned a bit about the ntfs-3g driver in the process.
-TazOC

pemasu · #117 Post by **pemasu** » Sun 20 Dec 2009, 19:59

Thanks for the info of ntfs partition problem. I tested bash script for mounting, placed it to Startup folder and I edited also rc.local for mounting. No change. Ntfs partition was mounted read and execute only. So it is good to hear that you have solution.
If you have easy solution by editing rc.sysinit I would like to give it try.

All the best and Merry Christmas

jasmac · #118 Post by **jasmac** » Sun 20 Dec 2009, 20:35

Hi TazOC, feel free to use whatever I put here in any way you wish. I am just happy that someone else likes them

Cheers

Jason

tazoc · #119 Post by **tazoc** » Sun 20 Dec 2009, 20:44

pemasu wrote:Thanks for the info of ntfs partition problem. I tested bash script for mounting, placed it to Startup folder and I edited also rc.local for mounting. No change. Ntfs partition was mounted read and execute only. So it is good to hear that you have solution.
If you have easy solution by editing rc.sysinit I would like to give it try.

Sure, just paste this code into line 474 of /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit, save and reboot.

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mkdir -p /tmp/root # TazOC Automount (muppyquickmount) needs this

LHP multi-user gives each user their own directory in /tmp, e.g. /tmp/root and /tmp/spot. Because Automount runs prior to X, mounting with ntfs-3g r-w failed as it tried to write to /tmp/root before the directory was created. The error caused mount to re-try mounting w/o ntfs-3g read-only. So with the new line, ntfs-3g will mount r-w without an error.
-TazOC

pemasu · #120 Post by **pemasu** » Mon 21 Dec 2009, 06:27

Thanks Tazoc. Ntfs partition automount read/write works now with that line in the rc.sysinit. It makes downloading to storage partition easier which is ntfs partition.

pupRadio-0.3.pet has pupradio and pupTV. Small pet but it works with Lighthousepup Gxine-xine out of the box.

Now if I had control to laptop backlight brightness I would be really happy. Kernel 2.6.30.5 has dropped backlight support out with every puplet/derivate I have tested so far. Previous kernels supported it through video module but not anymore. Acer-wmi should work, it creates the right folders and files but changing values dont affect the brightness.

I havent had previous experience of Amarok. Shoutcast stations plays all right but Last.fm stations with my account gave error about missing plugin, now it dont give even error.

Azureus/Vuze works nicely, now even better with automounting.

All the best and Merry Christmas

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