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Posted: **Tue 25 Sep 2018, 19:10**

I installed to a 64gb usb-3.0 flash drive:

System: Host: puppypc22105 Kernel: 4.14.71 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: bionicpup64 7.9.4
Machine: Device: laptop System: Apple product: Macmini6 1 v: 1.0 serial: C07JV98EDWYL
Mobo: Apple model: Mac-031AEE4D24BFF0B1 v: Macmini6 1 serial: C072496085YF1HCAG
BIOS: Apple v: MM61.88Z.0106.B03.1211161202 date: 11/16/2012
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i5-3210M (-MT-MCP-) speed/max: 1843/2501 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: intel Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz, 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ivybridge Mobile version: 4.2 Mesa 18.0.5
Network: Card-1: Broadcom Limited NetXtreme BCM57766 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe driver: tg3
Card-2: Broadcom Limited BCM4331 802.11a/b/g/n driver: bcma-pci-bridge
Drives: HDD Total Size: 577.1GB (2.5% used)
Weather: Conditions: 61 F (16 C) Time: September 25, 2:54 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 145 Uptime: 1:32 Memory: 299.6/16012.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56

I updated PPM and installed favorite applications, kodi now uses the
repositories.
I added "intel_pstate=disable" (no quotes) to the kernel line of the
menu.lst file.

Thanks for the version update.

Posted: **Tue 25 Sep 2018, 21:34**

Frugal installs to hard drives on two different computers ... Dell Optiplex
3010 (i5 four cores four threads) ..... and Dell Dimension E510 (Pentium D
dual core) ... both having 4 gig ram. Installed printer-scanner and temp
monitors. Only problem so far is that psync on version 7.9.4 does not work
either. Sheldonisaac already pointed this out. The psync-2,6,pet I (we) used
on 7.9.3 works on 7.9.4 as well.

Art

Posted: **Tue 25 Sep 2018, 23:57**

G'day,

Thanks for the feed-back about my puzzlement over the lib directory structures in 64-bit Pups.
I think I'll need to have all-apps-sfs files for each type of 64-bit Pup to try to get around where libs need to go.
I have had missing lib issues with various 32-bit Pups such that my slacko all-apps-sfs has extra libs I don't need in my Debian/Ubuntu Pups' sfs.
But 64-bit may need that extra level of tweaking to get all my apps to run from a single sfs.

Thanks Mike Walsh for the link to your earlier post about the erratic behaviour of BionicPup64's Puppy Event Manager in regard to displaying anything more than a few drive icons.
I used your 'shortcut' instead of going the 'long-way' (Menu>Desktop>....) to get to the icon manager, and trying various number combinations, I could get one to actually work - a single row of separated icons!

(screenshot)
Maybe I need to have each parameter divisible by 4? It seemed in a previous episode of this strange behaviour (I can't recall the Pup), using an odd number for any parameter caused the 'pile-up'.
I'll see how this goes with further re-boots to this Pup.

I'm having a problem running wine applications via my all-in-one apps sfs but the other icons on my pinboard (as per screenshot) are working in this now older version of BionicPup64.

Time for testing the next beta

.

David S.

Posted: **Wed 26 Sep 2018, 00:32**

Unfortunately still seem to be having some save issues with shutdown / reboot. I have the save interval set to 0 with ask whether to save checked.

When the Save / No save dialog is displayed, intermittently when I hit the Enter Button a '#' appears just below the word Save, following this I can not do anything and the session is not saved. This has happened twice from about 6 shutdown or reboots.

This is with a clean frugal install on USB Flash, using default kernel on Dell core i3-5005u laptop.

Posted: **Wed 26 Sep 2018, 01:45**

downloaded new 7.9.4 iso

made USB stick, added some of my goodies, like firefox 62.0.2, my 49 fonts, gkrellm from PPM, added Avidemux 2.7.1 sfs, and a few others
rebooted several times for check on shut down problems, zero failures, works like it should, good job.

Tom

Pup-SysInfo Hardware Report (Summary), Tue 25 Sep 2018

PC Manufacturer: TOSHIBA
Product Name: Satellite C55t-A
Motherboard Vendor: TOSHIBA
Product Name: Portable PC
BIOS Vendor: INSYDE Corp.
Version: 1.40
Release Date: 04/28/2014

Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU N2820 @ 2.13GHz
Max Speed: 2394 MHz
Current Speed of Core 0:2129 MHz, 1:532 MHz
Core Count: 2
Thread Count: 1

Frequency governor : ondemand
Freq. scaling driver : acpi-cpufreq

l1tf : Not affected
meltdown : Mitigation : PTI
spec_store_bypass : Not affected
spectre_v1 : Mitigation : __user pointer sanitization
spectre_v2 : Mitigation : Full generic retpoline

Linux Kernel: 4.14.71 (x86_64)
Kernel Version: #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Sep 24 15:03:45 BST 2018
Build GCC: 7.3.0

Kernel Command Line:
BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz intel_pstate=disable pmedia=usbflash

Posted: **Wed 26 Sep 2018, 02:53**

I installed to a 64gb sandisk flash drive:

System: Host: puppypc25750 Kernel: 4.14.71 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: bionicpup64 7.9.4
Machine: Device: desktop Mobo: Acer model: Aspire X3950 serial: U02C120500059
BIOS: American Megatrends v: P01-A3 date: 05/05/2010
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3 540 (-MT-MCP-) speed/max: 1234/3067 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: intel Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel Ironlake Desktop version: 2.1 Mesa 18.0.5
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 562.8GB (2.1% used)
Weather: Conditions: 67 F (20 C) Time: September 25, 10:39 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 138 Uptime: 57 min Memory: 326.7/5888.2MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56

Updated PPM and installed favorite applications.
Connected to a 32" TV via hdmi cable, audio also via hdmi.

It shuts down cleanly,
Works well,
Thanks

Posted: **Wed 26 Sep 2018, 13:51**

Hi, may I ask for help on these items?

When I click the "Terminal" in the tray, I want the result to be like '~> ', rather than 'root# '.

And how to get rid of the desktop icon labeled "Drives", which is 'Puppy drive manager',

Thank you,
Sheldon Isaac

Posted: **Wed 26 Sep 2018, 14:36**

Menu > Desktop > Psync Time Server Synchronisation > (each NTP) > Sync to time server

Got Error Message.

？

Posted: **Wed 26 Sep 2018, 14:50**

melon688 wrote:Menu > Desktop > Psync Time Server Synchronisation > (each NTP) > Sync to time server

Got Error Message.

See the link that artsown posted, at
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 02#1005302

Posted: **Wed 26 Sep 2018, 21:15**

I installed to a 64gb sandisk flash drive:

System: Host: puppypc2569 Kernel: 4.14.71 x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: bionicpup64 7.9.4
Machine: Device: desktop System: HP-Pavilion product: GN559AA-ABA a6220n serial: MXF7470DNX
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: Berkeley v: 1.04 serial: X312345678
BIOS: American Megatrends v: 5.13 date: 10/24/2007
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E4500 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1914/2200 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Oland [Radeon HD 8570 / R7 240/340 OEM]
Display Server: X.Org 1.19.6 driver: radeon Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz, 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 6.0, 128 bits) version: 3.3 Mesa 18.0.5
Network: Card: Intel 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e
Drives: HDD Total Size: 461.6GB (0.8% used)
Weather: Conditions: 68 F (20 C) Time: September 26, 5:03 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 116 Uptime: 8 min Memory: 304.5/3945.1MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.56

Updated PPM and installed favorite applications.
It's hard work for this older computer to do kodi streaming video but
it gets the job done.

Shuts down cleanly.

Thanks for version update.

********************************************************

EDIT: I tested Quirky beaver 8.7.1 on this hp and it uses much less resources when streaming video in Kodi
(see gkrellm screenshot)

Posted: **Wed 26 Sep 2018, 21:40**

sheldonisaac wrote:When I click the "Terminal" in the tray, I want the result to be like '~> ', rather than 'root# '.

open /root/.bashrc and add this line

Code: Select all

PS1="\w>"

Posted: **Wed 26 Sep 2018, 22:59**

rockedge wrote:
sheldonisaac wrote:When I click the "Terminal" in the tray, I want the result to be like '~> ', rather than 'root# '.
open /root/.bashrc and add this line
Code: Select all
PS1="\w>"

Thank you, rockedge!!

Sheldon

Posted: **Thu 27 Sep 2018, 00:03**

Sheldon:-

sheldonisaac wrote:...<snip> And how to get rid of the desktop icon labeled "Drives", which is 'Puppy drive manager', </snip>

Easy. Right-click, then 'Remove item'. (You may have to click 'Edit item', then uncheck the 'Locked' tick-box first, but that's not generally needed in a new Puppy install.)

Mike.

Posted: **Thu 27 Sep 2018, 00:21**

@ David:-

davids45 wrote:Thanks Mike Walsh for the link to your earlier post about the erratic behaviour of BionicPup64's Puppy Event Manager in regard to displaying anything more than a few drive icons.
I used your 'shortcut' instead of going the 'long-way' (Menu>Desktop>....) to get to the icon manager, and trying various number combinations, I could get one to actually work - a single row of separated icons! (screenshot)
Maybe I need to have each parameter divisible by 4? It seemed in a previous episode of this strange behaviour (I can't recall the Pup), using an odd number for any parameter caused the 'pile-up'.
I'll see how this goes with further re-boots to this Pup.

I believe you'll find it's also related to Rox's 'grid-step' setting in the 'Options : Pinboard' tab.

I don't know whether it was intentional on Phil's part, but I very early on noticed that when moving icons on the pinboard, instead of just staying exactly where I 'dropped' them, they'd 'jump' a wee bit as if to a pre-set position. Upon further investigation, I realized that instead of the 'grid-step' being set to the usual 'Fine', it was in fact on 'Medium'. Re-setting this to 'Fine', in combination with using an even number of pixels separation between each drive icon (you're right about that, I think; I use 56 as my 'standard' separation, but then I don't have quite as many partitions as you!

), cured the problem.

The other 'problem' of the Event Manager needing to be used every session in order to 'straighten things out', however, remains.....but this isn't exclusive to BionicPup64. It seems to be common to all very recent Woof-built Pups; peebee's Upup Bionic suffers from it, as does Sailor Enceladus' excellent re-spin on Micko's classic Slacko 570, Slacko 571. It's the only thing that spoils them all for me.

Something that needs looking into at Woof-CE HQ, perchance?

Mike.

Posted: **Fri 28 Sep 2018, 09:58**

Hello 666philb
Having fixed my error in menu.lst that stopped zdrv loading, I've got my audio back and xrandr can set the refresh rate with the modesetting driver.

I've checked for tearing on a new install of 7.9.4.
I set the refresh rate to 50Hz to match the video.

With the modesetting driver the tearing is really bad.

I changed to the Intel driver with triplebuffer=false and tearfree=false.

With your current configuration of compton there is no tearing.
So it looks as though compton can manage pageflip during the blanking interval without any additional buffering from the display driver.

Posted: **Fri 28 Sep 2018, 17:54**

Sometimes my laptop fails the autoconnect at boot. I think it's a woof-ce bug because I have this problem in other recent puppies, too.

EDIT: I usually use Network Wizard and eth0 to connect.

Posted: **Fri 28 Sep 2018, 19:07**

Thanks, Phil for uploading the new ISO, it solved the shutdown problem panic messages for me and it all shutsdown cleanly now.

I've a question for all users, though: on my i3 core laptop with 8GB ram, this new bionicpup (both old & new ISOs, frugal and/or full-install) is making my laptop's chip and fan run like crazy. It's like busybox or something (Htop is unclear) is going nuts or something, and my fan just runs constantly & the chip's cores are just grinding away at something. This is the only pup in my ~11 pup/ddog kennel that does this.

Is anyone else seeing this, or having this experience??

Just curious......

Posted: **Fri 28 Sep 2018, 19:21**

@belham2

I had this problem with my current old laptop with tahr64, slacko64 6.3.2, early slacko64 700, xenialpup64. I have solved this problem with the kernel 3.16.43 of slacko64 700 RC3. I have not this problem with current kernel in bionicpup64 7.9.4 beta. I think it depends on the kernel in use.

Posted: **Fri 28 Sep 2018, 19:33**

belham2 wrote:Thanks, Phil for uploading the new ISO, it solved the shutdown problem panic messages for me and it all shutsdown cleanly now.

I've a question for all users, though: on my i3 core laptop with 8GB ram, this new bionicpup (both old & new ISOs, frugal and/or full-install) is making my laptop's chip and fan run like crazy. It's like busybox or something (Htop is unclear) is going nuts or something, and my fan just runs constantly & the chip's cores are just grinding away at something. This is the only pup in my ~11 pup/ddog kennel that does this.

Is anyone else seeing this, or having this experience??

Just curious......

With the i3 chips they are running at full speed all the time. I'm not sure who originally posted this, but adding 'intel_pstate=disable' to the kernel boot line, will stop it from running at full speed all the time and will allow to use cpufreq to control the CPU. I have i3-5005U which is set to ondemand in cpufreq and it idles at around 800 MHz, rather than 1900 MHz.

Posted: **Sat 29 Sep 2018, 21:34**

Hi 666philb and all
Thank you very much for your great work. frugal install 7.9.4 on acer Aspire V5. Works well, the stop and rebbot bug is fixed.
Now I'm pulling my hair out with Bluetooth, I'd like to connect my phone and a sound system but I can't do anything! I have a Trendnet USB dongle.
Has anyone ever managed to connect a device using Bluetooth and if so, what are the packages to install?
Thank you in advance for your help, cordially petihar.

(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

Bionicpup64 8.0 CE

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Puppy Event Manager icon oddity

all better now

PS1 prompt, desktop icon

psync

Bionicpup64 7.9.4 beta

PS1 prompt (oops, should be in the Beginners section)

bluetooth