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Can multiple Puppies be burned onto one CD-RW? (SOLVED)
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Dewbie

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Nov 2010, 17:55    Post subject:  Can multiple Puppies be burned onto one CD-RW? (SOLVED)
Subject description: (and can I choose which one to boot?)
 

I would like to burn Puppy Linux 4.3.1 and its two retro versions, plus Classic Pup 2.14x, onto a single CD-RW.
(It has 700 MB of space, so why not?)

Can this be done in such a way to allow each Puppy to be booted individually?

If so, how?
(and would the CD-RW be burned "closed" or "open"?)

Thank you.

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Nov 2010, 18:10    Post subject: Re: Can multiple Puppies be burned onto one CD-RW?
Subject description: (and can I choose which one to boot?)
 

Dewbie wrote:
I would like to burn Puppy Linux 4.3.1 and its two retro versions, plus Classic Pup 2.14x, onto a single CD-RW.
(It has 700 MB of space, so why not?)

Can this be done in such a way to allow each Puppy to be booted individually?

If so, how?
(and would the CD-RW be burned "closed" or "open"?)

Thank you.


Maybe not as simple as just burning a cd but I've used the technique in this thread
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=297305#297305
to make a few multi-version cd's.
HTH.
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Nov 2010, 22:37    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
D/L the my tarball from the post, unpack it, and read the enclosed instructions carefully..Its pretty straightforward...
Good luck... Cool

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PostPosted: Mon 27 Dec 2010, 05:32    Post subject:  

OK...sorry about the month-long delay--dial-up requires lots of patience and time--but I just downloaded the last of those Puppies, along with the tarball.

I've never unpacked a tarball before.
What is the best and/or easiest way to do it?

Thanks again!
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PostPosted: Mon 27 Dec 2010, 11:13    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
To unpack the tarball, simply click on it in Rox!!
It will open in XArchive, and then click extract..It will ask you if you mean all files? click yes, it will ask you where to unpack to...That is it..

If you have further questions about how to use it, post them here.. Very Happy
Also, I would recommend using a cd-r rather than a cd-rw...

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PostPosted: Mon 27 Dec 2010, 20:49    Post subject:  

I only have CD-RWs on hand.
Will they cause any problems if I use them instead of CD-Rs?
Thanks.

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PostPosted: Mon 27 Dec 2010, 23:36    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
No, I have just had reader problems with them, and since linux burns "open ended" and you can repeatedly add data to a standard cd-r the only advantage to them is if you need to "blank" them.. which in this application, would never be necessary...But they will work fine....just use a new one if you can or blank it really good...

I recently made a 2/3/4/5 Puppy cd...
214.x top5 w/ metacity
3.01 Icepup, my icewm release..(kinda too cute..lol)
4.0 Buddapup 4 "Dingo" with E-17
5.11 "Lupen" with E-16
plus a few extras including Tinycore...

Eye candy disc Cool
I`m putting Ripple on the next one, ummm...Compiz/Beryl with Cairo dock..
I must have 10 of these things, I cant stop..LOL
Be forewarned... Evil or Very Mad Highly addictive

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec 2010, 04:04    Post subject:  

OK, tarball is unpacked.
One look at the readme.txt instructions, and...uh-oh!
If I was a programmer I would probably understand this, but I'm not, so I don't:
Quote:
0. Start your distro
1. Unpack makecddvdmultiboot.tar.gz in any place on you harddisk.
Keep and no change directory structure of this pack. You can change the names
2. Put the three-files (or four-files) vmlinuz, initrd.gz, pup_xxx.sfs in it's own directory (and/or devx_...sfs if exist). Browse to see the structure of dvd directory.
3. Read and modify all "menu.lst" to satisfy your options. You also must to modify the "menu.lst" in the subdir /boot/grub - It's important stuff
4. After all, move in dvd_boot directory, at this place you will see an script named "dvd_iso". Run this script, your multiboot CD/DVD will be created.

Can you please break this down into simple steps?
(like what you did three posts above)
Once again, thanks!
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec 2010, 07:14    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
I`ll do ya one better..
Rather than go into editing menu.lst files and grub.....
I did it for you...
Attached is a new tarball, customized just for you.. Cool
Inside the DVD source directory you will find folders for the Puppies you mentioned in your post, ie 431/431r1/431r2/214x
the readme has been edited for you as well, on how to mount ISO`s etc..
Put the necessary files in their respective folders, run the script, and `viola
Multipup cd..


PS dont worry that it says DVD, it works the same with a CD...
But a DVD will hold like 3 dozen Puppies...
Wish I had a DVD burner LOL...

Quote:
EDIT: My sincere apologies to the first 16 d/l`ers of this file...There was an error in the menu for 431r2 which prevents it from booting...
I fixed that, and added a bootsplash, courtesy of CatDude...

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec 2010, 09:00    Post subject:  

Hi all

For anyone wishing to use a fancy GRUB boot screen (not limited to 14 colours or whatever it is that GRUB splashimages use),
i have attached below, a suitable replacement for this file: /dvd_boot/dvdsource/boot/grub/stage2_eltorito


You could then download or make your own message file (you can find some in this thread: Message files for the GRUB gfxmenu )
Once you have downloaded and uncompressed one, put the message file in the grub directory: /dvd_boot/dvdsource/boot/grub
    NOTE:
    It may be advisable to use a message file of 800x600,
    just in case you ever need to use your custom DVD/CD on a machine/monitor combo that cannot handle a higher resolution.

    On the other hand, if that situation is never likely to occur,
    then i recommend the larger 1024x768 files.


You then need to edit line 5 of the main menu.lst file (this one: /dvd_boot/dvdsource/boot/grub/menu.lst)
from this:
Code:
#splashimage=/boot/grub/picture.xpm.gz

to something like this:
Code:
gfxmenu (cd)/boot/grub/YOURMESSAGEFILE

just replace YOURMESSAGEFILE with the actual name of your chosen message file,
for example:
Code:
gfxmenu (cd)/boot/grub/pup-pup



Hope this helps
CatDude
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec 2010, 10:21    Post subject: Can multiple Puppies be burned onto one CD-RW?  

To Dewble
Answer is YES

And this tar package may be help you?
This is the same pack that you 'd downloaded (May be this is from me long long time ago!)
Untar this pack "make_multi_boot_cd_dvd.tar.gz". Please read the readme.txt.
Good time
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PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec 2010, 12:59    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
@vanchutr, Yes, It is the same tarball, as I got it from you years ago, and it has worked well for me.. In this case the instructions and structure are a bit above the user, Dewbie`s, skill level...(Editing Grub menus and stuff)..As such, I simplified it a bit for his needs and did the editing for him...
I hope you dont mind if I update it a bit for the newer Puppies, remove the DSL stuff, (Knoppix...confusing boot codes.), make it Puppy only, and expand the readme for more newbie friendliness??

CatDude, I will definately check out your edited stage2 eltorito and add a boot splash as well.. Cool

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PostPosted: Tue 28 Dec 2010, 19:53    Post subject:  

Thank you puppyluvr
I can learn from you
Good day
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PostPosted: Wed 29 Dec 2010, 00:32    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
@vanchutr,
Ah my friend, it is your package, and I have learned from you by using it...
I am just going to "newbie" it up a bit...
I wish I knew enough C to make a gui so that user input could build the dir structure and grub files in advance.. That would be slick...
I could do it in bash, but not as cleanly...and it would be huge....and ugly..
I`m no programmer....
(Although, my first program for Puppy, PupTV, was (to my amazement) included in an official release, and has spawned many "children", some included in the current Puppy... Cool )
I just put ideas and (smarter than me) people together, and Puppy does the rest... Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Dec 2010, 05:52    Post subject:  

Thanks for all your help, but I'm way in over my head with this...even with the spoon-feeding.

Dirty Harry said:
Quote:
A man's got to know his limitations.Cool

Indeed.
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