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Pelo

downloaded another Puppy stretch from pCloud.

#41 Post by Pelo »

downloaded another Puppy stretch from pCloud. This one I am sure that sailor enceladus is the owner. Kernel 4.4.74 .
Released 26jun2017.

Light loaded as browser
( what would you do with Dillo ? )
PPM updated, and fotoxx downloaded successfully from repositories Debian.
Outdoor with my laptop and my dongle will be OK, included driver 8192cu recognize it without installing a pet.
Huge impact : your laptop is really serviceable for what you bought it : bring it with you.
Sure wireless inside home is useful when you want to change place, but our Puppy devs stay stuck to the wall socket with ethernet cable, usually.
taking advantage of wireless is to work or surf outdoor, in summertime.

To be repaired by help desk :
mpv_0.23.0-2+b2|mpv|0.23.0-2+b2||Multimedia;video|2242K does not launch.
(Repaired by download from ppm).

Pelo

PPM is [b]Devuan [/b]not Debian

#42 Post by Pelo »

ok puduan is not Puppy stretch because PPM is Devuan no Debian
What a difference that makes ? or :!:
But this puduan is really charming.. Looks like Puppy 431..
packages ascii are translated when dwonloaded..
What apps to downloaded to change the menu.. for our entertainment ? No guide somewhere.. hazardous coice, because names does no mean anything, often.. In Debian (Devuan) forum perhaps.
What a surprise to see my school girl as Splash when using grub4Dosconfig (terminal) ... how that can be ?? it's a wallpaper from PC astuces..

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#43 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

Thanks Pelo. I uploaded a new build at commit 5495 to the first link. To make things simpler I just put all the adrv fixes into the puppy.sfs this time, hopefully that fixes your mpv issue (guessing it was the %U thing included in vanilla build), also added mpv and pmusic to OpenWith, filled in a few of the missing libraries to the spec (6MB! perhaps some of those missing libs were not included intentionally for size reasons... heh), replaced the browser with the deb firefox-esr, and tried using the deb version of netpbm (hoping it patched the screeny bug but it looks like that xwdtopnm version is still older). There is now an option in Setup called Menu Manager that gives you a simple way to toggle off menu items too. Gotta run so I'll test it out more later. :)

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CUPS - printing filter fails

#44 Post by davids45 »

G'day,

Tried the 5459 puduan (frugal) and as before with this family of Pups, printing fails 'out-of-the-box'.

Maybe I'm the only one still using paper for stuff.

The problem is a filter-fail, which I'm told is in the gs-ghostscript version area. I've been sent a fix somewhere that I'll have to dig out again to fix this Pup like the others.

Any chance this could be fixed in the 'in-the-box' Pup?

Other than this, it's another very nice Pup and does everything else I've wanted.

David S.
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CUPs trying to print a test page - same fail as earlier Puduans
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Pelo

davids45, no printer at Home.

#45 Post by Pelo »

davids45, no printer at Home. Sorry i cannot help about how to set printers with Puppy. Hope you get an answer soon
August Holidays, September, everybody should be back at work !
ffDiaporama installed because i would like to take time to make one with Puppy. Only a dozen of pictures from Tour de France should allow beginner Pelo to improves quality of my videos Avidemux.
Light tool provided by Musher0, testers welcomed.
GpicView visionneur choisi par Sailor Enceladus fait Slideshow aussi
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Slideshow With Gpicview, push the arrow !
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Pelo

Gutenprint included in all ISOs

#46 Post by Pelo »

perhaps heretic Idea, IMO no need of Gutenprint included in all ISOs. Most of us don't print anyhing because
A they have no printer
B printing does not work with Puppy
C if office stuff has been deleted by the Puppy builder, what do you want to print ? Songs..
Ah scripts..

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Re: Gutenprint included in all ISOs

#47 Post by Robert123 »

Pelo wrote:perhaps heretic Idea, IMO no need of Gutenprint included in all ISOs. Most of us don't print anyhing because
A they have no printer
B printing does not work with Puppy
C if office stuff has been deleted by the Puppy builder, what do you want to print ? Songs..
Ah scripts..
Blah Blah Blah Blah................................................................................................................................................................................
Devuan Linux, Stardust 013 (4.31) updated [url]https://archive.org/details/Stardustpup013glibc2.10[/url]
s57(2018)barebone[url]https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppy-linux-minimal-builds/files/s57%282018%29barebones.iso/download[/url]

hamoudoudou

belham, how to find your conky ? What'is name ?

#48 Post by hamoudoudou »

belham, how to find your conky ? What'is name ?
About Printers, 3D, bluetooth, that is useless for most people, i would be better SFS to load when people need to use these equipment.
There is none application , why to include Libs for no usage..
My purpose was to feed-back about Abiword.. Latest version is made available by my Puduan.. Who can do as well, right now ?
Devuan, what is that ? PPM downloads debian stuff.. But i really don't care, if that works on my computer.
Dpup Stretch Released by Musher for (professional) testers.
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ppù devuan ascii
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hamoudoudou

Osmo 0.2.14 ! puduan-7.0.0a1_r5403.iso: 209 M

#49 Post by hamoudoudou »

OSMO not available? but provided by PPM Osmo 0.2.14 !

2017-04-15: version 0.4.0

Migrated to GTK+-3 and WebKit2Gtk
Bug fixes (#105, #90, #108, #104)
More customisable calendar colors
Use the XDG directory structure for the config and data files (#133)
Moon phase icon is now displayed
Show hidden files in the file chooser dialogs (#143)
Saved the Osmo state on SIGINT and SIGTERM signals
Option to disable background colors in calendar printing
New and updated translations

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#50 Post by musher0 »

Sailor Enceladus?

You ok? You haven't posted in the forum for a full week! It's lonesome here without you!

There are people on the French who are interested in another Puduan brew from you.
Starting here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... ost#987268

Happy Easter, BTW!
musher0
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hamoudoudou

My Puduan ready for use is sailor enceladus

#51 Post by hamoudoudou »

My Puduan ready for use is sailor enceladus, layed beside DebianDog Deepin, boot by isobooter. A little bit forgotten.. i am with Arfulpup mainly.. I cannot use all my puppies..

PPM : ascii ??? no newer ?

ISOBOOTER :

timeout 10
default 0

title DebianDog-Stretch-Deepin-DE-2017-01-02
partnew (hd0,3) 0x00 (hd0,0)/DebianDog-Stretch-Deepin-DE-2017-01-02.iso
map --heads=0 --sectors-per-track=0 (hd0,0)/DebianDog-Stretch-Deepin-DE-2017-01-02.iso (0xff)
map --hook
root (0xff)
chainloader (0xff)

title puduan-7.0.0a1_r5403
partnew (hd0,3) 0x00 (hd0,0)/puduan-7.0.0a1_r5403.iso
map --heads=0 --sectors-per-track=0 (hd0,0)/puduan-7.0.0a1_r5403.iso (0xff)
map --hook
root (0xff)
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=cd psavemark=1 pfix=fsck
initrd /initrd.gz

title More ISOs (see the instructions)
configfile (hd0,x)/menu.lst
commandline
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hamoudoudou

Why people dislike Puduan ?

#52 Post by hamoudoudou »

Why people dislike Puduan ? Nothing wrong is this Puppy Linux.. Perhaps that is the reason why people don't post. It would mean that to be at the top of the forum, a puppy has to be Wobbly (google translation = bancale)
Puduan available google.com/drive Whose builder ?
:? mouse often freeze
:shock: gnumeric from PPM installed..
:evil: google streets, no satellite, only plan
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hamoudoudou

Puduan is forgottten in drawers

#53 Post by hamoudoudou »

forum squadron is testing the bionic future. Puduan is forgotten in drawers
Google traduction : swarm of hornets, bees, wasps looking for new flowers
the flowers will fade if they are not watered
Fredx181 works.
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#54 Post by musher0 »

Hello all.

To anyone interested in "woofing" this Puduan-7, this post by
BillToo may be worth (re)reading.

Bye.
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Re: Puduan is forgottten in drawers

#55 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

hamoudoudou wrote:forum squadron is testing the bionic future. Puduan is forgotten in drawers
Google traduction : swarm of hornets, bees, wasps looking for new flowers
the flowers will fade if they are not watered
Hi hamoudoudou,

I don't think you, in particular, would like what is happening in woof-CE to this distro, mainly the removal of standard apps like abiword/gnumeric/inkscape and the switch to lxde/pcmanfm stuff, so I kept "a1" here (for this thread anyway).

There's a post here about a vanilla "b3" build though, musher0 had some interesting things to say about it so far :D
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 309#990309

hamoudoudou

no bugs.. félicitations

#56 Post by hamoudoudou »

" don't think you, in particular, would like what is happening in woof-CE to this distro, mainly the removal of standard apps like abiword/gnumeric/inkscape and the switch to lxde/pcmanfm stuff, so I kept "a1" here (for this thread anyway)."
Poor french citizens, used to ready for use Toutou 4.3.1 with Médor, our smiling hostess for Help any of them.. are abandoned. is this geek world for learners..? they learn how to install, they should learn how to use.. Once a TV set has the red button light, They rush to install another TV set.. They never watch TV..
]Anyway, about Puduan, i am proud of my devs.. no bugs.. félicitations :roll: excepted Musher0, never his desktop will please me.
Sailor Enceladus, the rules are changed.. Puppy Linux was thought ready for use for families, now Pupppy is thought to be disabled quickly on workshop deck.. No need of wheels, the car will never be released on roads.
As laboratory mice, Puppies are trashed as soon born.. unless Ally save them..
:arrow: your Puduan was running at home yesterday . No trouble.

hamoudoudou

Python, LLVM, and wireless drivers are the main items.

#57 Post by hamoudoudou »

removal, slim, barebone... i dont need to trim the fat with 4GB of RAM. I am far for windows Seven levels whether CPU or RAM.. Puppy Linux is quite under normal level of CPU..
However, just to join our happy builders of new Puppies, i took a glance where MBs could be removed, not a silly way, but as clever as possible
First look at the 80/20 Python, LLVM, and wireless drivers are the main items.
LLVM can be removed imediatly
Python could be removed..
Iwlwifi : only one files is needed, which one : Debian Dog by fredx181 has the answer, i am wireless connected when this Dog OS has only one file IWLWIFI, i don't remember which one.. That will be solved soon..
Unless your hobby is only programming, you bought (expensive) computer at least to play with it a businessman typing letters and accounting house wallet, to justify your wife time spent hidden first stage , apart from family. manage some souvenirs from holidays , and listen or watch some x videos or You tube singers
QT4 QT5 : sure QT4 is enough, and one can live without Qt...

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Re: CUPS - printing filter fails

#58 Post by 01101001b »

davids45 wrote:G'day,

Tried the 5459 puduan (frugal) and as before with this family of Pups, printing fails 'out-of-the-box'.

Maybe I'm the only one still using paper for stuff.

The problem is a filter-fail,
I had the same problem once. I was trying to install printer drivers from a pet. The problem was, during installation, several symlinks had to be created, and they weren't. I realized the problem when I found little text files where supposedly there had to be symlinks.

I took those little text files as a guide (inside of them I found the target for each symlink) and I replaced each and every one of them with the apropiate symlink.

And behold! A working printer.

Final thoughts:

- Puppy can print flawlessly (at least, mine does).
- A linux distro that can't print is useless.
- People still need printing.

Regarding Puduan, I found out this thread today. I'm using Dpup as my Puppy because it works ok. Devuan only has meaning as an alternative to Debian and systemd.

But puppies don't use systemd in their boot. They use BusyBox.

When I undestood that topic, eagerness to find a devuan-oriented puppy quickly faded. Maybe that is the answer to the question Hamoudoudou arised regarding the lack of interest for this particular puppy.

But, I may be wrong :wink: Regards! :D

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#59 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

Hi 01101001b,

That sounds about right. Due to popular demand, devuan has now been removed from official Woof-CE, which I think makes sense because it's easier to maintain and test one dpup than two. I built a vanilla puduan iso yesterday with the "final" commit 6572 and kernel 3.18 nopae in the b3 folder in the link in the first post for fun. It has no desktop icons but you can use the menu to navigate and mount partitions with Filesystem -> pmount. R.I.P. puduan, long live regular deb puppies :lol:

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#60 Post by musher0 »

OMG. Sailor Enceladus is here. :shock:
Pinch me, I'm seeing a ghost. :lol:
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