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Quirky Xerus 8.6 (Aug. 16), Beaver 8.7.1 (Sept. 21), 2018
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april

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PostPosted: Sat 19 May 2018, 19:14    Post subject:  

Hmm got the "easydd"
ran into problems straight away on Xenial64
Code:
Need 'pupmessage' or 'gxmessage' utilities


You have probably dealt with this somewhere already but at 52 pages I'm not going to read through just yet.

OK so I got the file down and tried with easydd but it did not work as a command line either
Code:
easydd xerus64-8.5-8gb.img.gz sdb


so i did the normal dd thing after first formating the stick with gparted . I will try an ext4 first as I find these more reliable . I set the boot flag on .

Code:

root# dd  if=xerus64-8.5-8gb.img.gz of=sdb
1108791+1 records in
1108791+1 records out
567701482 bytes (568 MB, 541 MiB) copied, 3.14177 s, 181 MB/s
root#

and now to boot from it

And what do I get
Code:

wee 0>find --set-root /grldr
wee 15> /grldr
wee 17.> -


Hmm Not happy Jan !

I better try extracting the image file first-Yes thats looking better

Code:
root# dd  if=./xerus64-8.5-8gb.img of=/dev/sdb
14680064+0 records in
14680064+0 records out
7516192768 bytes (7.5 GB, 7.0 GiB) copied, 2397.61 s, 3.1 MB/s
root#

2397.61 s=40 minutes to write to USB2 stick

Now to see if it boots

Yep - using it now . Thanks Barry I'll let you know what I think . First though I might use a USB3 stick the 2 is very slow.
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april

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Location: Green Island baby!

PostPosted: Sun 20 May 2018, 02:55    Post subject:  

WoW

Using Seamonkey its about the slowest system I have ever used . Don't know if it gets faster or if a USB3 stick would improve it but I think I'll ditch this and try to cut a CD and boot from it

Just don't have the time to sit and wait..

Could not get a lastpass addon for seamonkey . They have been monkeying around with it . Its the one main add-on I use together with Adblock so if they are not there its useless for me and they are not it seems.

Back on xenial64 and its going well.
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Sun 20 May 2018, 06:46    Post subject:  

april wrote:
Hmm got the "easydd"
ran into problems straight away on Xenial64
Code:
Need 'pupmessage' or 'gxmessage' utilities


You have probably dealt with this somewhere already but at 52 pages I'm not going to read through just yet.

OK so I got the file down and tried with easydd but it did not work as a command line either
Code:
easydd xerus64-8.5-8gb.img.gz sdb


so i did the normal dd thing after first formating the stick with gparted . I will try an ext4 first as I find these more reliable . I set the boot flag on .

Code:

root# dd  if=xerus64-8.5-8gb.img.gz of=sdb
1108791+1 records in
1108791+1 records out
567701482 bytes (568 MB, 541 MiB) copied, 3.14177 s, 181 MB/s
root#

and now to boot from it

And what do I get
Code:

wee 0>find --set-root /grldr
wee 15> /grldr
wee 17.> -


Hmm Not happy Jan !

I better try extracting the image file first-Yes thats looking better

Code:
root# dd  if=./xerus64-8.5-8gb.img of=/dev/sdb
14680064+0 records in
14680064+0 records out
7516192768 bytes (7.5 GB, 7.0 GiB) copied, 2397.61 s, 3.1 MB/s
root#

2397.61 s=40 minutes to write to USB2 stick

Now to see if it boots

Yep - using it now . Thanks Barry I'll let you know what I think . First though I might use a USB3 stick the 2 is very slow.


Regarding this:

Code:
easydd xerus64-8.5-8gb.img.gz sdb


If you downloaded easydd to the current directory, not into the $PATH, then you will need to prefix:

Code:
./easydd xerus64-8.5-8gb.img.gz


...also, I recommend leave off the "sdb", as easydd will probe for it and ask which drive, which makes things less error-prone.

Yes, apart from expanding the image-file first, that will only write to a file named "sdb", not to the drive:

Code:
dd  if=xerus64-8.5-8gb.img.gz of=sdb


One important thing, type "sync" in the terminal before unplugging the drive, after having run dd.

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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sun 20 May 2018, 09:24    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.5 for x86_64, released Feb. 27, 2018  

I installed to a 16gb SDHC card with easydd, computer is an HP desktop.

System: Host: QUIRKYPC18186 Kernel: 4.14.17 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM git-976 Distro: Quirky 8.5 xerus64
Machine: System: HP-Pavilion product: GN559AA-ABA a6220n serial: MXF7470DNX
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: Berkeley v: 1.04 serial: X312345678
Bios: American Megatrends v: 5.13 date: 10/24/2007
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E4500 (-MCP-) speed/max: 1370/2200 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Oland [Radeon HD 8570 / R7 240/340 OEM]
Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 148x28 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Intel 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network Connection driver: e1000e
Drives: HDD Total Size: 431.5GB (2.6% used)
Weather: Conditions: 61 F (16 C) - Overcast Time: May 20, 9:10 AM EDT
Info: Processes: 102 Uptime: 1:16 Memory: 189.4/3953.2MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35

Updated QPM and installed chromium,kodi,smplayer/smtube,kde games, and a few
others.

Working pretty well, vlc wouldn't install, same thing last time I ran
this I think.
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roadkill13

Joined: 10 Aug 2011
Posts: 148
Location: United States

PostPosted: Thu 21 Jun 2018, 07:02    Post subject: Dell Optiplex 745  

Installed to 16G SDHC card using USB Image Tool Windows 7 Ultimate and booted from a Dell Optiplex 745 Ultra Small Form Factor desktop. Google Chrome manually installed from a Mike Walsh .sfs.

ystem: Host: QUIRKYPC28917 Kernel: 4.14.17 x86_64 (64 bit)
Desktop: JWM git-976 Distro: Quirky 8.5 xerus64
Machine: System: Dell product: OptiPlex 745 serial: JR9TYD1
Mobo: Dell model: 0GW726 serial: ..CN6986179L0353.
Bios: Dell v: 2.6.6 date: 06/26/2011
CPU: Dual core Intel Pentium Dual E2180 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB
clock speeds: max: 1799 MHz 1: 1799 MHz 2: 1478 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel 82Q963/Q965 Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 80x24 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio: Card Intel 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.14.17
Network: Card: Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5754 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
driver: tg3
IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full
mac: 00:1a:a0:6c:73:4b
Drives: HDD Total Size: 175.7GB (1.3% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: Hitachi_HDS72161 size: 160.0GB
ID-2: USB /dev/sdb model: Cruzer_Blade size: 15.7GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 6.4G used: 2.2G (34%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb2
RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors: None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info: Processes: 96 Uptime: 18 min Memory: 237.6/3878.8MB
Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35
#

Everything is working quite well so far. Thank you very much.
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Sage

Joined: 04 Oct 2005
Posts: 5423
Location: GB

PostPosted: Fri 22 Jun 2018, 09:18    Post subject:  

Hope BK retrenches and keeps Quirky alive. Along with Slacko, one of the best and most reliable bits of kit in the CD-RW toolkit...
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roadkill13

Joined: 10 Aug 2011
Posts: 148
Location: United States

PostPosted: Fri 22 Jun 2018, 14:28    Post subject:  

@ Sage wrote:

Quote:
Hope BK retrenches and keeps Quirky alive. Along with Slacko, one of the best and most reliable bits of kit in the CD-RW toolkit...


Ditto....
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DanielSong39

Joined: 04 Mar 2014
Posts: 36

PostPosted: Thu 02 Aug 2018, 06:08    Post subject:  

Looks like Quirky is unable to run Abiword or Gnumeric past versions 8.0... those are two biggies. I haven't tried the FreeOffice .PET's but I would assume they do not work either.

I like LibreOffice as much as the next person but there are times when I prefer the lightweight alternatives, such as Abiword/Gnumeric or FreeOffice. I also have a lot of files from those programs, and it's a pain to convert them. But I suppose you can't have everything.
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roadkill13

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PostPosted: Thu 02 Aug 2018, 20:22    Post subject:  

Quote:
Looks like Quirky is unable to run Abiword


The latest version of Abiword is 3.02. I installed 3.01 from petget and so far it seems to work just fine. I haven't done extensive testing though. I did install the gnome-icon-theme just to make it look right.

I haven't tried gnumeric.
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rufwoof

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Posts: 2645

PostPosted: Sat 04 Aug 2018, 19:04    Post subject:  

Increasingly I'm using LibreOffice much less now. I don't do presentations or database/math stuff, so just used to install it for spreadsheets and writer. Tend now to create documents manually using (basic) html, view them using a browser, print to PDF (file) to store them as pdf's alongside the html. gnumeric services my spreadsheet needs. Nice thing about html is you can use standard cli tools to search for things within your documents folders.
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lp-dolittle

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Posts: 60

PostPosted: Wed 08 Aug 2018, 04:08    Post subject: gnumeric in Quirky Xerus 8.3  

Hi DanielSong39,

did you try to install Gnumeric or Abiword from the pet repository?

I have not installed Abiword, but I'm using Gnumeric_1.12.28-1 in Quirky Xerus 8.3 without any problems.
The Gnumeric pet is available from the ubuntu-xenial-main repository.

kind regards
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lp-dolittle

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Posts: 60

PostPosted: Sun 12 Aug 2018, 08:23    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.4 location of q.sfs
Subject description: potential drive confusion
 

@ Barry,

highly appreciating Quirky Xerus, I'm using it in all variants (installed on internal HD's; installed on flash-drives; frugal installation). However, as the attached Screenshots illustrate, the flash-drive installation seems to be affected by a 'potential' bug.

After a Quirky Xerus 8.4 installation onto a flash-drive which was inserted as sdb, ROX-filer shows q.sfs correctly in /mnt/sdb (attachment 1) and everything seems to work well as long as no additional drive is inserted.

In a changed configuration, ROX-filer shows q.sfs e.g. in /mnt/sdc/mnt/sdb, (attachment 2)! The same is true if the runnig OS is a Puppy and the Quirky Xerus 8.4 flash-drive is attached as sdc, sdc2 being mounted (attachment 3).

If Quirky Xerus 8.4 is running on sda, while the Quirky Xerus 8.4 flash-stick is attached as sdc (sdc2 mounted), a path confusion results (attachment 4).

why does the 'internal' (within the working partition of the flash-stick) path to q.sfs etc. not get adapted to the flash-stick's changing position?
Bug or not a bug?

kind regards

EDIT:

after I sent another post referring to an assumed q.sfs 'problem' to Barry Kauler on August 17th, I got a 'revealing' answer which made me rethink the above-described issue ... just to discover that my Xerus8.4-flash stick in question was corrupted in so far as erroneously a folder containing s_sfs, Q_ID, q.sfs and s.sfs was present in /mnt/sdb2!
In order to make sure, I re-installed Quirky Xerus onto the flash stick, testing the *.img.gz as well as the *.iso variant, and - in both cases - got properly running Quirky Xeruses without any q.sfs files.

As shown by this rather embarrassing experience, the 'confusing' potential of q.sfs files which 'accidentally' are stored/saved in an unfit location should be kept in view!
In fact, quite a modest insight!

Except of that, apologies for the finally misleading above alert!
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PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2018, 08:41    Post subject:  

The year is rolling by too fast! 8.5 was released in February, time for another!

Quirky Xerus 8.6 x86_64 is out, see blog announcement:

http://bkhome.org/news/201808/quirky-xerus-86-released.html

Release notes:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/xerus-8.6/release-xerus64-8.6.htm

Download:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/xerus-8.6/

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PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2018, 12:13    Post subject:  

Many thanks, BK - much appreciated.
Too much to ask for a 32bit to keep all this junk from landfill?!
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PostPosted: Thu 16 Aug 2018, 12:55    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.6 for x86_64, released Aug. 16, 2018  

I installed to a 64gb sandisk flash drive:

System: Host: QUIRKYPC17940 Kernel: 4.14.63 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM git-976 Distro: Quirky 8.6 xerus64
Machine: System: HP product: 260-p029 serial: CNV6240BWP
Mobo: HP model: 81B4 v: 01 serial: PFPSK0BWJ301LW Bios: AMI v: F.04 date: 05/10/2016
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3-6100T (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 1507/3101 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Sky Lake Integrated Graphics
Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 122x27 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter driver: rtl8723be
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1063.3GB (0.2% used)
Weather: Conditions: 77 F (25 C) - Partly Cloudy Time: August 16, 12:32 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 119 Uptime: 1:29 Memory: 182.8/3879.8MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35

I installed a few applications with petget.
Using a 32" TV connected via HDMI cable as a monitor.

Works well so far,
Thanks
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