Xenialpup64 CE 7.5 / 25 Nov 2017

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#681 Post by bigpup »

message which said that laptop CD/DVD-drives are not suitable for saving the session.
If you get that message it may or may not write the save correctly to the CD/DVD disk.
made the custom-puppy-uefi.iso
What exactly did you do to make this?
Good chance something did not get done correctly.
while booting the computer with that very DVD, booting hangs when it is "loading folder ...blah... from CD/DVD". Also, seems that there is no pup_save.2fs file in the DVD.
If you are saving to the CD/DVD.
The save is a directory on the CD/DVD.
It will not be named pup_save.2fs.
The save directory will be given a name that is the date and time it was made.
Are you giving it some time to load the save?
What may seem like hanging up, may be time it is taking to load the save directory.
Does that mean that with my laptop DVD drive I cannot save the session and that's why the booting fails?
I assume you are trying to save to the CD/DVD disk.
Have to make sure the inside of the CD/DVD drive is clean and the read/write lens is clean.
You could have a save that got made to the CD/DVD, but it was not burned good.

You can always just make the save on the computers internal hard drive.
The Puppy CD/DVD booting is designed to look for saves on the computers hard drive.

Also when you burn the iso image to the CD/DVD.
Burn at a very low speed.
8X or less.
Less chance of something not getting burned to disk.
desktop computer (Asus P8P67 Deluxe). When I boot with Xenialpup64 DVD I end up to Xenialpup desktop OK, but my mouse or keyboard won't work at all. Keyboard is connected to usb connector and mouse is connected to ps/2 with adapter.

Try a different USB port for keyboard.
mouse is connected to ps/2 with adapter.
so, is it a USB mouse?
If yes.
Use USB port.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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#682 Post by Gem1964 »

Thanks for your reply, bigpup!
bigpup wrote:
message which said that laptop CD/DVD-drives are not suitable for saving the session.
If you get that message it may or may not write the save correctly to the CD/DVD disk.
Yes. I understand that. That's why I tried to test saving session with my desktop computer with normal Bluray burner. But that didn't work either, because of the usb problems I mentioned earlier.
bigpup wrote:
made the custom-puppy-uefi.iso
What exactly did you do to make this?
Good chance something did not get done correctly.
I don't remember exactly, but I just read the instructions and did what I was told. :)
bigpup wrote:
while booting the computer with that very DVD, booting hangs when it is "loading folder ...blah... from CD/DVD". Also, seems that there is no pup_save.2fs file in the DVD.
The save directory will be given a name that is the date and time it was made.
Are you giving it some time to load the save?
What may seem like hanging up, may be time it is taking to load the save directory.
I waited for 13 minutes. Meanwhile the screen went black (or kinda gray), as if a screen saver had kicked in? When I pressed some button the loading screen came back. And it was still loading (there was no green "done" yet). Maybe it was still loading my session, but 13 minutes is kinda long time anyway, and I ran out of patience. So, I think maybe it is better to use usb flash drive.

And actually there are two directories in the DVD+RW (named by date and time) because I saved the session two different times before powerin down the puppy after making some custom installs etc. And puppy is trying to load stuff out of one of those directories while booting.

Maybe I try once again and wait for an hour or so... :lol:

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#683 Post by linuxcbon »

xenialpup64 version 7.5
- in package manager, it says pulseaudio is installed, but it is not installed or even configured.

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root# pulseaudio
bash: pulseaudio: command not found

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#684 Post by bigpup »

In Puppy Package Manager(PPM)
What exactly did you download and install for Pulseaudio??
What is the specific name ???

Did you do the download after you did a PPM>Configure>Update database?
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
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#685 Post by linuxcbon »

bigpup wrote:In Puppy Package Manager(PPM)
What exactly did you download and install for Pulseaudio??
What is the specific name ???

Did you do the download after you did a PPM>Configure>Update database?
I installed nothing, it's displayed as installed by default, but it is not.

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Xenialpup64 7.5 apache2 install

#686 Post by lcpuppy »

After installing apache2 in Xenialpup64 7.5, using Puppy Package Manager, the "/etc/apache2/mods-enabled" directory is empty, similarly the "/etc/apache2/conf-enabled" directory. In contrast, when installing Ubuntu 16.04.4, the 'mods-enabled' and 'conf-enabled' directories seem to have been intialized by the install script, and apache2 starts cleanly at the end of the installation. Can Xenialpup 64 7.5 be persuaded to initialize the apache directories during installation in a similar manner ??
A capture of the terminal install verbiage is attached. You can see the apache2 modules being enabled towards the end.
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#687 Post by rockedge »

I have set up hundreds of Apache servers on Puppy Linux. Xenial runs a LAMP server very well.
I always select ALL in /etc/apache2/conf-avialable and SYM-LINK them in conf-enabled.
This I also must do to /etc/apache2/mods-avialable. With the mods be sure to disable mpm-worker and mpm-events by removing the symlinks in mods-enabled.

be sure to also enable the sites config in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled.

look up the utility a2enmod and a2dismod ...I just manually create the needed symlinks.... on Ubuntu the install does do some of these tasks in Puppy Linux I have only found the manual way to work 100%

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#688 Post by bigpup »

linuxcbon wrote:
bigpup wrote:In Puppy Package Manager(PPM)
What exactly did you download and install for Pulseaudio??
What is the specific name ???

Did you do the download after you did a PPM>Configure>Update database?
I installed nothing, it's displayed as installed by default, but it is not.
If you do a search for pulseaudio in PPM.
It will show some parts of pulseaudio installed, but it is not the complete pulseaudio.
Is that what you are talking about?
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
YaPI(any iso installer)

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#689 Post by linuxcbon »

bigpup wrote:If you do a search for pulseaudio in PPM.
It will show some parts of pulseaudio installed, but it is not the complete pulseaudio.
Is that what you are talking about?
No. It's not "parts", it says it's installed, but it is not.

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#690 Post by watchdog »

linuxcbon wrote:xenialpup64 version 7.5
- in package manager, it says pulseaudio is installed, but it is not installed or even configured.

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root# pulseaudio
bash: pulseaudio: command not found
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 004#957004

I do not recommend using pulseaudio in puppy but I did some experiments.

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#691 Post by linuxcbon »

watchdog wrote:I do not recommend using pulseaudio in puppy but I did some experiments.
I didn't talk about how to use it or how to install it, or if it is recommended or not. I talk about a bug, that's all.

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#692 Post by watchdog »

linuxcbon wrote: I didn't talk about how to use it or how to install it, or if it is recommended or not. I talk about a bug, that's all.
I do not think it's a bug: puppy does not use pulseaudio but some libs (example libpulse) are required so PPM declares pulseaudio installed but it's not the full pulseaudio: only what makes puppy working with alsa.

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#693 Post by linuxcbon »

watchdog wrote:I do not think it's a bug: puppy does not use pulseaudio but some libs (example libpulse) are required so PPM declares pulseaudio installed but it's not the full pulseaudio: only what makes puppy working with alsa.
It's a bug because pulseaudio is declared as installed.

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apache server

#694 Post by lcpuppy »

rockedge wrote:I have set up hundreds of Apache servers on Puppy Linux. Xenial runs a LAMP server very well.
I always select ALL in /etc/apache2/conf-avialable and SYM-LINK them in conf-enabled.
This I also must do to /etc/apache2/mods-avialable. With the mods be sure to disable mpm-worker and mpm-events by removing the symlinks in mods-enabled.

be sure to also enable the sites config in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled.

look up the utility a2enmod and a2dismod ...I just manually create the needed symlinks.... on Ubuntu the install does do some of these tasks in Puppy Linux I have only found the manual way to work 100%
Rockedge, Thank You for the feedback. That gives me the lay-of-the-land.

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#695 Post by linuxcbon »

Xenialpup64 7.5

I installed steam from quickpet -- fun , and it says :

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root# steam
Setting up Steam content in /root/.local/share/Steam
  File "/usr/bin/steamdeps", line 367
    
    ^
SyntaxError: EOF while scanning triple-quoted string literal
Running Steam on puppy_xenialpup64 7.5 64-bit
STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically
Error: You are missing the following 32-bit libraries, and Steam may not run:
libstdc++.so.6
/root/.local/share/Steam/ubuntu12_32/steam: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
/root/.local/share/Steam/steam.sh: line 444: no match: ssfn*
I installed 32 bit compatibility libraries sfs and then I got the same error.
What did I miss ?

----

OK I solved it by running

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#ldconfig
after loading the sfs libraries.

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Is it possible to install COMPIZ FUSSION IN XENIAL PUP?

#696 Post by pp4mnklinux »

Hello every body:

Is it possible to install compiz fussion in xenial pup?

if "Yes" How must I do it?

THANKY
Distro: xenialpup64 7.5 XXL
Desktop Panel: JWM ~ FbBox 5.0

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Xenialpup64 CE 7.5 / 25 Nov 2017

#697 Post by Billtoo »

New install of xenialpup64 to a 64gb flash drive:

System: Host: puppypc5044 Kernel: 4.9.113 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: xenialpup64 7.5
Machine: Mobo: Acer model: Aspire X3950 serial: U02C120500059
Bios: American Megatrends v: P01-A3 date: 05/05/2010
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3 540 (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 1200/3067 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 116x25 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 563.2GB (1.6% used)
Weather: Conditions: 82 F (28 C) - Partly Cloudy Time: July 17, 3:09 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 186 Uptime: 1:19 Memory: 267.7/5895.4MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35

Added some applications with PPM, also downloaded and added the Kodi
sfs from the ibiblio puppy linux website.
Compiled the newest kernel and changed to that.

Working well so far,
Thanks.

EDIT: I took a shortcut to install xenialpup64 to a 32gb flash drive by
booting Slacko64,preparing the drive with gparted,then copying the
xenialpup64 savefile to the 32gb flash drive and running grub4dos to
the 32gb drive only.

System: Host: puppypc5044 Kernel: 4.9.113 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: xenialpup64 7.5
Machine: System: Hewlett-Packard product: HPE-410f serial: MXX0370KF3
Mobo: FOXCONN model: 2AB1 v: 1.00 Bios: American Megatrends v: 6.02 date: 07/21/2010
CPU: Hexa core AMD Phenom II X6 1045T (-MCP-) speed/max: 1400/2700 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Redwood PRO [Radeon HD 5550/5570/5630/6510/6610/7570]
Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 driver: radeon tty size: 124x24 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
Card-2: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCI Express Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1031.7GB (1.0% used)
Weather: Conditions: 77 F (25 C) - Mostly Cloudy Time: July 17, 9:03 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 205 Uptime: 58 min Memory: 274.5/7984.2MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35

On first boot I had to run xorgwizard to setup the graphics, also
changed a couple of other settings.

Working well on this pc too.
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Xenialpup64 CE 7.5 / 25 Nov 2017

#698 Post by Billtoo »

I used the same shortcut as in the above post to install to a 32GB
SDHC card:

System: Host: puppypc5044 Kernel: 4.9.113 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: xenialpup64 7.5
Machine: System: Acer product: Aspire R3610 serial: PTSCX0205302001AC12700
Mobo: Acer model: FMCP7A-ION-LE serial: U020102009703
Bios: American Megatrends v: P01-A4 date: 11/03/2009
CPU: Dual core Intel Atom 330 (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 1599/1600 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA ION VGA
Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 105x26 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: NVIDIA MCP79 Ethernet driver: forcedeth
Card-2: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
Drives: HDD Total Size: 192.1GB (3.8% used)
Weather: Conditions: 68 F (20 C) - Partly Cloudy Time: July 19, 10:47 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 181 Uptime: 1:07 Memory: 219.9/1496.4MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35

The nouveau driver is working well, sound configured and worked fine
with Kodi but had trouble with Vlc so I'm using an usb sound card that
works well with both.

Thanks.

EDIT:
video-info-glx 1.5.3 Fri 20 Jul 2018 on xenialpup64 7.5 Linux 4.9.113 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation ION VGA (rev b1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP79 Board - hornet-0 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.18.4
dimensions: 1600x900 pixels (442x251 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: ION/integrated/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.107

Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz
Core 0: @1599 1: @1599 2: @1599 3: @1599 MHz

I decided to try the proprietary driver so downloaded and compiled the
newest.
The processor uses less resources when streaming video and runs cooler
as well.

Edit: I updated the kernel and loaded the new kernel sources sfs, then compiled the nvidia driver again.
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Xenialpup64 CE 7.5 / 25 Nov 2017

#699 Post by Billtoo »

I did a new install to a usb-3.0 SSD, computer is a Macmini:

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Sat 21 Jul 2018 on xenialpup64 7.5 Linux 4.9.113 x86_64
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)
oem: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS
product: Intel(R) Sandybridge/Ivybridge Graphics Controller Hardware Version 0.0

X Server: Xorg Driver: evdev
X.Org version: 1.18.4
dimensions: 3840x1080 pixels (1013x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Ivybridge Mobile
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 17.0.7

Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3210M CPU @ 2.50GHz
Core 0: @1200 1: @1200 2: @1300 3: @1200 MHz


I changed kernels to the newest,added applications with PPM.

It's working great, there is an annoying bug (up arrow key triggers mtpaint), I know that there is a
fix for this bug but have to do more reading to find it.
Also had to add intel_pstate=disable to the menu.lst file.

Thanks.
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#700 Post by koulaxizis »

Hello everyone! :)

Fisrt of all, thank you very much for this great release, absolutely loved it!!

Not sure if anyone came across those issues, so I'm gonna report them anyway! :p

- Missing battery icon. There is just a "blank placeholder" where the battery icon should appear. If I hover it, I can view the battery status, right-click it etc, but there is no icon at all.

- Missing Steam icon. There is just a white icon with an "X" symbol on it. Just like the above case, I can fully interact when I hover it, but there is no actual Steam icon.

- False Pplog shortcut. If you start the Hiawatha server and then press PPLOG to start, you will get the "Puppy Printing" window instead of PPLOG.

- Keyboard configuration error. I added a second layout, choose the variant, choose the toggle setting, works fine until I reboot the system. I have to set it up all over again each time.

That's all for now. If you can help me somehow with the above issues (especially the last one, it's frustrating), I'd be grateful!
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