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davids45


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PostPosted: Sun 17 Jun 2018, 22:51    Post subject: Old Aldi Un-smart phone
Subject description: 16GB phone 'storage, only 1GB usable
 

G'day,

I'm looking for advice regarding a Bauhn SphereB5 phone (Android version 4.2.2) now about 4 years old.
Its catalog specification was 16GB phone memory and today the phone 'settings' reports over 12GB 'Total space' and 'Available'.

However, its original un-smart set-up had limited the usable 'internal memory' to 1GB. With Google Play Store, etc., this now runs out very quickly, even though I have set the 32GB SD card to be the install location for added applications, videos, photos, and so on.

Whirlpool told me an updated update.img file would fix the phone's memory 1GB 'limit' but the phone now lacks support from Bauhn or Aldi, so no update.img file available.

I think all I need to do in 'Puppy' terms is to resize the phone internal memory partition with GParted from its 1GB to say 10GB?

Would GNURoot Debian allow this in some way? I briefly tried installing GNURoot Debian but ran out of memory! A second try could be more successful by removing stuff in 'Internal memory', if warranted.

Is this simple re-size 'solution' feasible, or is there an alternative for fixing this internal memory restriction (that doesn't involve buying a new, actually-'Smart' phone Embarassed Very Happy )?

Thanks for any advice.

Feeling un-smart myself,
David S.
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wiak

Joined: 11 Dec 2007
Posts: 895
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PostPosted: Mon 18 Jun 2018, 05:46    Post subject: Re: Old Aldi Un-smart phone
Subject description: 16GB phone 'storage, only 1GB usable
 

davids45 wrote:

Is this simple re-size 'solution' feasible, or is there an alternative for fixing this internal memory restriction (that doesn't involve buying a new, actually-'Smart' phone Embarassed Very Happy )?


This I really don't know, sorry, David. Seems unlikely this Debian app would prove to be a solution since it runs in userspace on the Android, which doesn't even need to be rooted. Not being rooted I doubt therefore the Debian OS would have sufficient rights to re-partition anything. Also, what you are looking for is more RAM is it not, whereas partitioning is to do with storage space? I'm left wondering what the 12GB available on your phone is exactly; is it actually possible RAM or just ROM or some kind of electrically re-programmable ROM, which would just be for storing programs and not RAM per se? Hopefully an Android OS expert will see your post and suggest any mechanism that might do what you want.

EDIT: Okay, so I checked the specs and re-read you post, David. The phone apparently has 1GB RAM, but 16GB internal 'memory' (meaning storage in this case). I realise now that your issue is simply that you want to be able to use that 16GB storage (that it is being somehow limited by the phones firmware). Again, I doubt the Debian OS can help here since will be limited to whatever the phone provides userland I expect. It is a bit odd how the phone reports 14 GB available but really only give 1 GB but alas I know nothing about Androids.

EDIT2: I think I understand the problem you describe now, though have no idea how you can re-partition the reserved Apps area:

http://www.stevesandroidguide.com/understand-android-storage/

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This time the tablet is showing 3 partitions and not 2. They are: Reserved, Apps and Data.

On this older tablet part of the storage was reserved for Apps and App data only . This is usually called Internal storage but sometimes the term photo storage is used.

The other part is for user data e.g.photos etc which is often called SD storage.

The problem with this arrangement is that if the Apps partition becomes full you can’t install any new Apps even though the data partition had lots of space.


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PostPosted: Mon 18 Jun 2018, 20:58    Post subject:  

G'day wiak,

Thanks for your replies and comments.

Your interpretation of my phone problem is what I understand to be 'wrong' with the phone - the link you posted is a very good explanation, if a bit depressing as the page-writer also doesn't know how to fix this Andoid issue.

At least, if I see a new 'special offer' on a so-called Smart Android Phone (or Tablet), I'll know what to check straightaway, rather than four years later Rolling Eyes .

David S.
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