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Artie

Joined: 04 Oct 2005 Posts: 423 Location: Norway
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Posted: Wed 21 Feb 2007, 14:21 Post subject:
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http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3057967810.html
Just wondering if this could be of interest to Puppy?
Artie
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rarsa

Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3053 Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Wed 21 Feb 2007, 14:50 Post subject:
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I've replied to similar posts in the past:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=9752&search_id=870738123#9752
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=92105&search_id=870738123#92105
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=73371&search_id=870738123#73371
Yes, I've used mono, No, I haven't used in Puppy.
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sunburnt

Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 4001 Location: Arizona, U.S.A.
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Posted: Fri 23 Feb 2007, 03:38 Post subject:
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I'd like to try a .Net app. I have, on Puppy with the Mono framework installed.
They've been developing the .Net framework for a few years now.
It should be working good by now, & any bugs should be well documented.
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rarsa

Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3053 Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri 23 Feb 2007, 09:35 Post subject:
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Great!
Do you have the GTK bindings installed?
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sunburnt

Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 4001 Location: Arizona, U.S.A.
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Posted: Fri 23 Feb 2007, 14:26 Post subject:
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rarsa; Don't know where to begin... I usually work with premade Puppy versions.
If you know where & what to download & how to set it up, I'll give it a go.
I'd start with a fresh frugal Puppy install, so maybe one is suited for Mono?
Qs; How big is the installed Mono framework? There's also a Mono IDE?
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rarsa

Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3053 Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri 23 Feb 2007, 14:38 Post subject:
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| sunburnt wrote: | | rarsa; Don't know where to begin... | I actually understood that you had the Mono framework installed
You actually said "I have, on Puppy with the Mono framework installed.".
See how there is a period after "I'd like to try a .Net app."
You had really surprised me.
I started going through the process. I am pretty sure I got the core framework working and serving ASP.NET pages, but as I've said in other posts, the list of dependencies for the GTK bindings was so long I decided it wasn't worth it. It depends on many Gnome componets.
The instructions for building it are on the Mono web site. MU prepared a Gnome libraries dotpup some time ago, maybe it includes the required dependencies, I haven't tried.
The mono environment is definetivelly on the heavy side
There are several IDEs, last time I checked the most advanced one was "MonoDevelop".
Good luck and keep us posted on your efforts.
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sunburnt

Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 4001 Location: Arizona, U.S.A.
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Posted: Fri 23 Feb 2007, 15:01 Post subject:
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Sorry... app. is an abreviation, so the period, the real indicator was the comma
separating the first statement of "WISH", from the second one "NEED".
I'll take a look at your links, I was told Mono didn't need Gnome, but it's
probably Gnome's GTK that's needed for GUI apps., but maybe it needs more.
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klhrevolutionist

Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 1124
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Posted: Fri 23 Feb 2007, 15:08 Post subject:
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This is like python too large !!
Let's not and say we did
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sunburnt

Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 4001 Location: Arizona, U.S.A.
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Posted: Fri 23 Feb 2007, 15:15 Post subject:
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I hear you KLH... my friend has a killer app. that's worth it.
Compared to XP that he's using, Puppy at 100MB + Mono at 200MB = 300MB.
That's about half the size of XP I think (maybe less), so that's an improvement.
The .Net framework itself is probably about 100MB (WOW), same size as Puppy!
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John Doe
Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 1689 Location: Michigan, US
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Posted: Fri 23 Feb 2007, 18:57 Post subject:
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I compiled MONO a long time ago, it's about 24 megs.
mono-1.1.13.8.tar.gz
I think one needs this also:
libgdiplus-1.1.13.6.tar.gz
I don't recall what else needed added. I"ll double check after dinner.
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rarsa

Joined: 29 May 2005 Posts: 3053 Location: Kitchener, Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Fri 23 Feb 2007, 19:23 Post subject:
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| John Doe wrote: | | I compiled MONO a long time ago, it's about 24 megs. | The "tough" part, as I remember, due to dependencies is GTK# required to create or run GUI applications. That's where I stopped if someone does it, it will be welcome.
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sunburnt

Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Posts: 4001 Location: Arizona, U.S.A.
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Posted: Fri 23 Feb 2007, 19:27 Post subject:
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Thanks "John"; I down loaded the latest Mono 1.2, I guess it's an exe archive.
If your able to help me integrate it into Puppy it'll be a valuable asset indeed.
What rarsa said about dependencies is just what I've heard, lots of Gnome.
If a lots of Gnome is needed, why chase the parts, just install Gnome-FULL.
After all... this is a M$ like Heavy Duty environment, may as well act like it.
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John Doe
Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 1689 Location: Michigan, US
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Posted: Fri 23 Feb 2007, 20:32 Post subject:
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| rarsa wrote: | | John Doe wrote: | | I compiled MONO a long time ago, it's about 24 megs. | The "tough" part, as I remember, due to dependencies is GTK# required to create or run GUI applications. That's where I stopped if someone does it, it will be welcome. |
It was like you were looking over my shoulder.
That must be why I get this:
| Code: | sh-3.00# mono MyApp.exe
Mono System.Windows.Forms Assembly [$auto_build_revision$]
Keyboard: United States keyboard layout (phantom key version)
Gtk not found (missing LD_LIBRARY_PATH to libgtk-x11-2.0.so?), using built-in colorscheme |
It does run, but looks really ugly.
I'll give it another shot with my T2 build.
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muggins
Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 6660 Location: lisbon
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Posted: Fri 23 Feb 2007, 23:53 Post subject:
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trying to backtrack in my memory how i first stumbled upon puppy, i think it could have been when i googled for anti-bloatware.
why do people keep wanting to include bloatware that's bigger than the distro itself?
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John Doe
Joined: 01 Aug 2005 Posts: 1689 Location: Michigan, US
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Posted: Sat 24 Feb 2007, 00:33 Post subject:
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| muggins wrote: | | trying to backtrack in my memory how i first stumbled upon puppy, i think it could have been when i googled for anti-bloatware. |
So one can conclude that you are here for what Puppy isn't rather than what Puppy is?
| muggins wrote: | | why do people keep wanting to include bloatware that's bigger than the distro itself? |
Which begs the question, "why whould someone choose cognitive ignorance?".
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