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LxPupSc64 - 64bit version of Puppy with the LXDE desktop
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peebee


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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2018, 03:01    Post subject: Re: THEME Set Switcher is the issue  

ozsouth wrote:
Tried 2 other pcs with LxPupSc64-18.03+2 on usb ext2. No issue - each time booted up and closed Quick start, Welcome & Theme Switcher unchanged.
** THEN ** - I changed the THEME SET via Switcher - billtoo & belham2's issues began. THEN I reverted to original blue theme - all OK again. Repeated with all 3 non-original blue sets. SUGGESTION - scrub Theme Set Switcher, or at least remove it from Startup.

Thanks ozsouth - I know what I need to fix now....

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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2018, 06:24    Post subject:  

Delta to LxPupSc64-18.03+3

.iso md5 = 56a23bc7ef2780038824d5f850f1806b lxpupsc64-18.03+3.iso

- fixes the Theme Setter

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2018, 07:54    Post subject:  

LxPupSc64 currently has ffmpeg-2.8.11 from slacko6414.2 (ffmpeg-2.8.11-x86_64_s700)

My suspicion is that this needs rebuilding/updating as for instance:
aplay /usr/share/sounds/2barks.au
is giving errors....as are some websites....

Anybody else noticed sound problems??

The problem is I don't think I've got the right compiling environment available....

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Marv


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PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2018, 09:34    Post subject:  

peebee wrote:
LxPupSc64 currently has ffmpeg-2.8.11 from slacko6414.2 (ffmpeg-2.8.11-x86_64_s700)

My suspicion is that this needs rebuilding/updating as for instance:
aplay /usr/share/sounds/2barks.au
is giving errors....as are some websites....

Anybody else noticed sound problems??

The problem is I don't think I've got the right compiling environment available....
I hadn't noticed any problems on either the i5 or the core 2 duo. Just startup sound, some news type web pages and aplay. On both machines aplay returns
Code:
# aplay /usr/share/sounds/2barks.au
Playing Sparc Audio '/usr/share/sounds/2barks.au' : Mu-Law, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
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PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2018, 19:21    Post subject:  

I get the same aplay result as Marv, on i3-2310m, celeron 1019y & amd e-450. I note ffmpeg compiled with different gcc to kernel (5.3.0 vs 7.3.0) - irrelevant?
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Dry Falls

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PostPosted: Tue 20 Mar 2018, 20:29    Post subject:  

running 18.03 from iso (unpatched;k5.15.7) savefolder. Have made no changes and have no issues with sounds or ffmpeg. pmusic works well and every video format I have plays on gnome mplayer.. Same with X-startup sound OOTB. I prefer the older ffmpeg over that offered by Slackware64-curent.

df

edit: I haven't installed the delta patches so haven't tested it, but if the slackware64 updates include gst/gstreamer 1.14.0, they conflict with any libav* from any other ffmpeg, so that could be the culprit in sound issues. I've found gstreamer or at least gst-plugins from arch linux more forgiving.
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar 2018, 04:35    Post subject:  

Dry Falls wrote:
if the slackware64 updates include gst/gstreamer 1.14.0,

Hi DF

Neither LxPupSc64 nor LxPupSc include gst/gstreamer....

LxPupSc (32-bit) has ffmpeg-3.4 and that seems to work OK.

I'm beginning to think that my aplay example is a red-herring....

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar 2018, 07:19    Post subject:  

Delta +4

iso md5 = fe3f2aa20b1b6fe925d1d1b080cec77f lxpupsc64-18.03+4.iso

- ffmpeg-3.4.2 (compiled in slacko64 with gcc-5.3.0)

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar 2018, 08:15    Post subject:  

Installing the devx is what kills aplay.....

[edit] Also happens with 32-bit devx so needs investigation....

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Mar 2018, 21:07    Post subject:  

+4 applied. Audio working after the update as it was before. I just recalled that Slimmie does carry and attempt to force use of its own ffmpeg though...

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar 2018, 07:02    Post subject:  

aplay problem with devx; fixed by woof-ce pull request:
https://github.com/puppylinux-woof-CE/woof-CE/pull/1159

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Mar 2018, 15:09    Post subject:  

+4 continues to run well. On the i5 initial load times seem significantly faster than on the 32b pups (Slimjet 17/18 for example). And progress on the 32b-to-64b tango Smile

1: Got my Brother HL2170W laserprinter connected. It's old enough so there are no 64b drivers and I couldn't see loading 32b compatibility just for that but it emulates PCL6 so I just did a straight Brother install but used the generic PCL6 driver. Hoorah!

2. Drives-on-desktop are back! I reinvented the wheel a bit there as I didn't see your 64b recompiled 0.0.5.0 pet now in lxpup-extras and I compiled desktop_drive_icons-0.0.6.0 in LxPupSc64. Both work and that's a welcome extra to have back.

Cheers,

Edit: Forgot that I revived my house Bay Trail Box, scrounged a small widescreen monitor, put a bigger drive in it with EXT4 data partitions and reinstituted samba. Running it LxPupSc64 18.03 +4 on it now. No issues noted there running +4. I/O throughput is a weak link on the Bay Trail so it's a bit of an experiment.

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Mar 2018, 06:55    Post subject:  

Delta +5

iso md5 = 245cc40f630885b039ef7d72e58236ab lxpupsc64-18.03+5.iso

- Slackware64-Current to Mon Mar 26 22:06:38 UTC 2018

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Mar 2018, 07:24    Post subject:  

Hi Peebee, Marv & all,

Is there a way for me to apply a "...delta.iso" to the main ".iso" while using any other linux operating system (say, Debian or whatever)? Applying the delta.iso to the main.iso only seems to work when you are inside any other puppy, but nowhere else.

What am I doing wrong, or maybe, what needs installed in other linux OSes? Many times I find myself in, for example, one of my DebianDogs, I go & download the delta.iso for LxPupSc64, and frustratingly I cannot apply it (despite having both the main lspupsc64 iso & the delta.iso in the Downloads folder) if I do not first copy the delta and main iso to an another drive, then close out of my DebianDog session and open some puppy---all just to apply the darn delta. Confused

Surely there's gotta be some way to apply all these delta.iso(s) while using any other linux OS, right? I am just too stupid to figure it out. I looked and Googled for some delta.iso and difference manager utility or something, but could find nothing. Or is all this "delta.iso-applying-to-main-iso" proprietary to the person/developer of that particular OS??

Thanks for any hints, tips, etc!
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Mar 2018, 07:52    Post subject:  

belham2 wrote:
Is there a way for me to apply a "...delta.iso" to the main ".iso" while using any other linux operating system (say, Debian or whatever)?

The program is xdelta3
Available for most linuxii
https://pkgs.org/download/xdelta3
Code:
# xdelta3 --help
VERSION=3.0o
usage: xdelta3 [command/options] [input [output]]
special command names:
    config      prints xdelta3 configuration
    decode      decompress the input
    encode      compress the input
    test        run the builtin tests
special commands for VCDIFF inputs:
    printdelta  print information about the entire delta
    printhdr    print information about the first window
    printhdrs   print information about all windows
standard options:
   -0 .. -9     compression level
   -c           use stdout
   -d           decompress
   -e           compress
   -f           force overwrite
   -h           show help
   -q           be quiet
   -v           be verbose (max 2)
   -V           show version
memory options:
   -B bytes     source window size
   -W bytes     input window size
   -P size      compression duplicates window
   -I size      instruction buffer size (0 = unlimited)
compression options:
   -s source    source file to copy from (if any)
   -S [djw|fgk] enable/disable secondary compression
   -N           disable small string-matching compression
   -D           disable external decompression (encode/decode)
   -R           disable external recompression (decode)
   -n           disable checksum (encode/decode)
   -C           soft config (encode, undocumented)
   -A [apphead] disable/provide application header (encode)
the XDELTA environment variable may contain extra args:
   XDELTA="-s source-x.y.tar.gz" \
   tar --use-compress-program=xdelta3 \
       -cf target-x.z.tar.gz.vcdiff target-x.y/
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