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gtk-youtube-viewer (for lots of pups)
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Thu 22 Mar 2018, 04:13    Post subject:  

Hi sindi, glad it's useful for you somehow !
I'm not sure if you managed to save the session already, anyway here's some info:
A save folder may be the most convenient, but works only on a linux filesystem e.g. ext2/3/4
And best is to place the "live" folder in a folder with a unique name, e.g. for below example: "dwheezy-jwm"
(see also "Examples for several DebianDog frugal install on different partitions ..." on the porteus-boot wiki page, at the bottom)
And the "from=" and "changes=" parameters accordingly:
Code:
title DebianDog Wheezy-jwm -  changes to /dwheezy-jwm/live
 root (hd0,0)
 kernel /dwheezy-jwm/live/vmlinuz1 from=/dwheezy-jwm noauto changes=/dwheezy-jwm/live/
 initrd /dwheezy-jwm/live/initrd1.xz


Then the changes will be in "/dwheezy-jwm/live/changes" folder. (folder "changes" will be automatically created)
For to save only at shutdown (choice to save or not) make it: changes=EXIT:/dwheezy-jwm/live/

For to create save file, run from Menu > Utility > Make Save file
And if the location is "/dwheezy-jwm/live/changes dat" make it "changes=/dwheezy-jwm/live/changes.dat" on the kernel line.
(but note that the changes are not directly saved after creating savefile (need to reboot, then the savefile will be mounted), newer 'dogs' can do that, but this old version not)

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sindi

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Mar 2018, 13:00    Post subject: saving changes to debiandog  

Debiandog is sharing a partition with several puppy linuxes.

title DebianDog 902 (sda5)
root (hd0,4)
kernel /dog902/live/vmlinuz1 noauto from=/dog902/ changes=EXIT:/dog902/live/changes.dat
initrd /dog902/live/initrd1.xz

(The changes line is part of the previous line but when I type things in a GUI I am restricted to a narrow box, and lines wrap).

A 100MB save file changes.dat was created in live, along with various empty subdirectories, when I shut down yesterday.
ext2

When I try to reboot it complains about trying to access
/memory/changes/mnt/live

no space left on device.

I have 7GB free space.
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PostPosted: Thu 22 Mar 2018, 13:16    Post subject: debiandog working properly with 'EXIT'  

With 'EXIT' added to menu.lst and a reboot everything is working now.
menu.lst as posted here

I may use DebianDog 9.02 (2015) as the default OS on this 1.6GHz laptop. It is newer than both Wary (2013) and Lupu2016 (with 2010 libraries), and the squashfile is a lot smaller and it runs in less memory and seemingly faster (though with larger kernel). I added ssh and youtube-viewer.

If google had not broken smtube again I might never have known about Debiandog. It seems ideal for slower hardware with less RAM.

Next problem is to figure out why 54G pcmcia cardbus cards download at 1.4Mbps and 850Kbps in two laptops from 2003 and 2004. Onboard wifi (B) does 5.6Mbps.
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PostPosted: Thu 22 Mar 2018, 16:56    Post subject:  

sindi wrote:
A 100MB save file changes.dat was created in live


That's very small, the cache used by the package manager (after "apt-get update") takes already around 100MB, so better use bigger save file .
For info, with the EXIIT option the changes are in RAM, so a lot faster, but limited to 60% of your RAM.
You can increase to e.g. 90%, by adding to kernel boot line:
Code:
ramsize=90%

So, say, you install a lot of packages (or download big file to e.g. /root) you will run out of space when it's more than that % of your RAM size.

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Mar 2018, 09:22    Post subject: About gtk-youtube-viewer Puppy version would have been nice  

About gtk-youtube-viewer Puppy version would have been nice. for downloads they are so may addons available even for old browsers that i don't miss a pet.
(1click download addon for Palemoon is perfect)
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Mar 2018, 15:00    Post subject: debiandog no longer boots
Subject description: id 1 respawning too fast disabled for 5 minutes
 

I tried to boot to Debiandog again and it won't finish booting.
ID 1 respawning too fast
Disabled for 5 minutes.

Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot.

ID z6 respawning too fast.

I powered off and then on again to Wary puppy linux instead.

I presume deleting changes.dat would fix the problem but then I will need
to download everything again - updates, ssh, and youtube-viewer.

Is there a simpler fix?

This 1.5GHz laptop uses over 100% of cpu and ram to play 240p youtube with palemoon.
Quite jerky. It has nice sound and screen.

Slow wifi but the download is faster than the playing.
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Mar 2018, 17:30    Post subject:  

sindi wrote:
I tried to boot to Debiandog again and it won't finish booting.
ID 1 respawning too fast
Disabled for 5 minutes.

Ctrl-Alt-Del to reboot.


Sorry, I've seen that "respawning too fast" message long time ago, but can't remember what's causing it.
Indeed try to start all over again could fix it, if you do, better use a larger savefile (just guessing, but too small savefile could be the cause)

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PostPosted: Mon 26 Mar 2018, 21:23    Post subject: debiandog won't boot on AMD64 2008 HP
Subject description: searching for wheezy-i486.sgn
 

I unpacked the iso as on the 2004 DELL, and copied the menu.lst entry (by hand) as follows:


title dog902 wheezy (sda5)
root (hd0,4)
kernel /dog902/live/vmlinuz1 from /dog902/ noauto changes=EXIT:/dog902/live/changes.dat nouveau.modeset=0
initrd /dog902//live/initrd1.xz

The only difference was that I added nouveau.modeset=0 because
no puppy later than lupu can handle the nvidia chip on here.
Lupu uses nv and later puppies use nouveau which scrambles even terminal mode. modeset=0 helps somewhat.

Is that interfering somehow?


I also tried
from /dog902/live.

I copied the sgn file to /dog902/

I tried (sda5/live) on the first line

The .sgn file is in 'live' as before.
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PostPosted: Mon 26 Mar 2018, 21:29    Post subject: debiandog booted from IDE not SATA drive  

Only other obvious difference between laptops is IDE vs SATA.

The modeset line was irrelevant.

dpup stretch boots on here (with wrong resolution) - maybe youtube-viewer will work with it.
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Mar 2018, 04:27    Post subject:  

Quote:
="sindi"unpacked the iso as on the 2004 DELL, and copied the menu.lst entry (by hand) as follows:


title dog902 wheezy (sda5)
root (hd0,4)
kernel /dog902/live/vmlinuz1 from /dog902/ noauto changes=EXIT:/dog902/live/changes.dat nouveau.modeset=0
initrd /dog902//live/initrd1.xz


That looks ok, no need to change "from=" or "changes=" but I don't know about the "nouveau.modeset=0", it could be the problem, you did try without ?
(from google search I found that "respawning too fast" has to do with X server)

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Mar 2018, 06:57    Post subject:  

sindi wrote:
I unpacked the iso as on the 2004 DELL, and copied the menu.lst entry (by hand) as follows:


title dog902 wheezy (sda5)
root (hd0,4)
kernel /dog902/live/vmlinuz1 from /dog902/ noauto changes=EXIT:/dog902/live/changes.dat nouveau.modeset=0
initrd /dog902//live/initrd1.xz


I see now after looking better at your kernel line that "from" is missing the "=", should be from=/dog902/
Otherwise it won't find the data and gets stuck on "searching for wheezy-i486.sgn"

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Mar 2018, 12:53    Post subject: fixed menu.lst, thanks; where to find modules?  

The equal sign fixed things.

I do need nouveau.modeset=0 to make video work.
As with puppies Tahr and later, it is scrambled otherwise (nouveau). nv in lupu/sulu works correctly.
modeset=0 I gives 1024x768 instead of 1280x800, which stretches things sideways.
youtube-viewer works at 720p, sound works, ethernet works.

Where do I find modules fbcon tileblit and related, or if not needed, where do I put vga=791 in menu.lst?

Where do I find ipw2100? Puppy comes with most wifi modules already.

Still cannot reboot even on my newest laptop (2008 or 2009) - it just halts, says to hit Ctrl-D, and I power off.
Also I chose 200MB save file and it saved 100MB. Maybe I missed something.

It rebooted okay anyway so 100MB is enough (for rxvt ssh and youtube-viewer and updates).
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Mar 2018, 13:24    Post subject:  

sindi wrote:
Where do I find modules fbcon tileblit and related, or if not needed, where do I put vga=791 in menu.lst?

Don't know about fbcon tileblit, you can add vga=791 to the kernel line.

Quote:
Where do I find ipw2100

Install from synaptic or with apt-get "firmware-ipw2x00"

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PostPosted: Tue 27 Mar 2018, 13:57    Post subject: ipw2100 and fbcon and shutdown  

Shutdown works on the newer laptop (AMD65 HP from 2008-9) but not on the 2004 DELL 600M.
fbdev (framebuffer terminal) works automatically on the DELL but not the HP so must be
part of the nouveau video problem. (Does not work with later puppies either).

I already tried apt-get install firmware-ipw2x000 and it could not find anything.
Should I not type install? I have never used Debian.

Debdog does work with a pcmcia wifi card in my other 600M (at 850 kbps download)
but I am running out of cards since most laptops have dead wifi slots by the time they reach us.
We can use ethernet cables. The cheap USB wifi cards I tried work in XP but not linux.

This is so much nicer than fighting with google at youtube.com.
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PostPosted: Tue 27 Mar 2018, 14:43    Post subject:  

sindi wrote:
I already tried apt-get install firmware-ipw2x000 and it could not find anything

One 0 too many, it's :
Code:
apt-get install firmware-ipw2x00

(I assume you did "apt-get update" already, since I think you installed youtube-viewer and did that before)
If you don't have internet connection, download from another OS:
http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-ipw2x00_0.36+wheezy.1_all.deb
Then install single .deb package in debdog:
Code:
dpkg -i firmware-ipw2x00_0.36+wheezy.1_all.deb


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