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artsown

Joined: 12 Sep 2012
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PostPosted: Tue 13 Mar 2018, 19:42    Post subject:  

No problems here so far with BB alpha. It shows so much promise that
I'll be installing it on other computers and testing apps that I rarely or
never use. Looks like a potential winner to me Smile

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Joined: 04 May 2005
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Location: SW Wisconsin

PostPosted: Wed 14 Mar 2018, 08:32    Post subject:  

updated to +3T on the intel i5 laptop. Running well (haven't tested frisbee as SNS has been rock solid for me for a while & I don't roam Smile ). The wireless-regdb addition working, no crda errors in dmesg. Thanks. Still no direct rendering on the i915 hardware. The only Warnings in dmesg at this point are acpi resource conflicts and they have been present in multiple kernels/pups on this hardware for a while now with no seeming effect on any operation.
Code:
# glxgears
Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual

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Smithy


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PostPosted: Wed 14 Mar 2018, 09:39    Post subject:  

Really good that modular A drive idea that has the browser in it.
Would be good to see a few alternative A drive slot ins from OscarTalks and others who do browsers. That would make things easier because they are always changing them.

I found that turning off some of the services in the boot manager made a difference in performance and app errors, namely the systemd and machine id.

I also tried Radkey Stretch kernel 4.1.48, pretty good and also cpiez phil66 kernel 3.17.7, even better.
Just wondering if it is ok to swap a lower version kernel in or will there be trouble?
I wanted to try a 2.6.33.7 just to see.

This is relating to Artful, since the Bionic cake won't be baked until after Easter!
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artsown

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Mar 2018, 14:33    Post subject:  

BB Errors updating ppm:

http://home.ptd.net/~artnpeg/Screenshot.png

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peebee


Joined: 21 Sep 2008
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PostPosted: Wed 14 Mar 2018, 16:18    Post subject:  

artsown wrote:
BB Errors updating ppm:

http://home.ptd.net/~artnpeg/Screenshot.png

Art

Hi Art

Those are the same errors that are appearing in all apps.....they don't look nice but don't seem to affect to affect functionality.

Were the ppm databases updated correctly?

As they are produced by Xdialog they may be fixable in a similar way to frisbee....but we really want the errors to "go away".....

I've been trying to find which ubuntu package supplies GTlsBackend but have so far drawn a blank....

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Mar 2018, 16:25    Post subject:  

Smithy wrote:
Would be good to see a few alternative A drive slot ins
....
Just wondering if it is ok to swap a lower version kernel in or will there be trouble?

Hi Smithy

There are a selection of alternative browsers at:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/files/Other/LxPupSc/browsers/

which may work (untested).

The only thing to watch with kernels is how much firmware is included in the zdrv - but if you keep the fdrv together with a different zdrv then you should be covered even if it is somewhat belt and braces.

Of course older kernels may not have drivers at all for newer hardware....but if you're using older hardware then this shouldn't be a problem.

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PostPosted: Wed 14 Mar 2018, 19:49    Post subject:  

Thanks for info peebee, I'll get me belt and braces on.
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PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar 2018, 05:06    Post subject:  

Further to above re: alternate browsers - on a quick test all the browsers seem to work i.e. they start.
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artsown

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PostPosted: Thu 15 Mar 2018, 05:13    Post subject:  

@peebee:
No problems with anything I've installed via ppm using BB, and there have
been several items. It's particularly nice to have qpdfview available via ppm.
Probably it's too large for you to replace evince, but it's far superior.

No problems with BB on a 2nd computer either. Since all six of my computers
are in a "goldilocks zone" (not new but not terribly old) I don't anticipate any
problems with BB on any of them.

This "alpha" stuff is a myth Smile

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Mar 2018, 06:18    Post subject:  

+5 delta

.iso md5 = 9f6cdf0b9d62a45a39d7142f76a364fb Upup_Bionic_Beaver-18.03+5.iso

- some mime-type fixes
- Ubuntu-BB updates

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Mar 2018, 10:10    Post subject:  

BBPup +3 updated to +5 on my i5 referenced above. No glitches noted, glxgears failure to run as noted above is unchanged. Subjective speed excellent though.

re browsers: Your Slimjet run-as-spot runs flawlessly here and is very clean/devoid of advertising once set up. It's the last 32b slimmie alas.
re md5sums: I like having the iso md5sum in the post as as in this thread as opposed to in a separate text file per your LxPupSC updates. An easy cut and paste to check and saves a couple of steps.
re kernels: On the i5 hardware I have no problems at all running newer (gone as far as your 4.15.9 64b) in BBPup or somewhat older (the original ArtfulPup 4.4.59 32b ). I haven't gone any older than that. Core 2 duo hardware balks at the 4.15.9 64b (video glitches).

Happily using ubbpup as my daily.

Thanks,

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artsown

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PostPosted: Fri 16 Mar 2018, 10:11    Post subject:  

Small issue using BB without adrv:
Menu - internet - Light
The error message mentions "Artful" instead of "bionic beaver"

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar 2018, 13:48    Post subject: Bionic will be very different of Artful..  

I consider artfulpup as the final show of Xenial, yustus, zesty, artful being last improvements.
Bionic is a new area, with major changes. Please let alive topic about artful.
And in April, try to success on a topic about Bionic.
Perhaps other teams will create it, as for xenialpup.
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PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar 2018, 13:52    Post subject:  

ArtfulPup Update +16 - updates from upstream Ubuntu

.iso md5 = 2b856974ebf64ac5e30aa3b2bc167b0d artfulpup-17.11+16.iso

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PostPosted: Sat 17 Mar 2018, 15:12    Post subject:  

peebee

I get failed to create new file

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