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Re: Pale Moon 27.8.1 available

#521 Post by greengeek »

Walter Dnes wrote:The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530
Hi Walter, I am keen to produce a PalemoonSSEonly puppy .pet for Slacko 5.6 users but I need to be sure that the results of this are "generic" and not carrying components that are specific to my machine. When I go through the manual process that you describe in your linked post there is quite a delay at the end where the terminal shows "palemoon/libfreeblpriv3.chk".

Is this doing some kind of check that is specific to my machine? Do you think it is safe for me to package the resultant palemoon directoey for distribution to others?

EDIT : Also you say "The first time Pale Moon is installed, you need to create a symlink to the executable" - which is the executable? palemoon or palemoon.bin? Clicking either one seems to start the browser directly.

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Re: Pale Moon 27.8.1 available

#522 Post by Walter Dnes »

greengeek wrote:Hi Walter, I am keen to produce a PalemoonSSEonly puppy .pet for Slacko 5.6 users but I need to be sure that the results of this are "generic" and not carrying components that are specific to my machine. When I go through the manual process that you describe in your linked post there is quite a delay at the end where the terminal shows "palemoon/libfreeblpriv3.chk".

Is this doing some kind of check that is specific to my machine? Do you think it is safe for me to package the resultant palemoon directoey for distribution to others?
No checking going on. The machine may be a bit slow swapping stuff back in after extracting the tarball. There really is a file called "palemoon/libfreeblpriv3.chk".
greengeek wrote:EDIT : Also you say "The first time Pale Moon is installed, you need to create a symlink to the executable" - which is the executable? palemoon or palemoon.bin? Clicking either one seems to start the browser directly.
The 2 files are identical. I think that many years ago, some linux distros needed the "-bin" extension to tell them it was executable, so a copy with the "-bin" name was made. Pale Moon seems to have inherited that feature from Firefox. Stick with "palemoon" for the executable name.

A few notes:

1) The extracted directory is self-contained. There is no need to splatter files all over /usr You can do stuff like...

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rm -rf /opt/palemoon
tar -C /opt -xvjf palemoon-27.8.1SSE.linux-i686.tar.bz2
cd /usr/bin
ln -sf /opt/palemoon/palemoon palemoon
Or you can go with /usr/local instead of /opt. Assuming that /usr/bin is in the PATH, it's ready to go. There is nothing deposited outside /opt/palemoon. It creates directory "$HOME/.moonchild productions" when first launched.

2) I'm a volunteer who does a recognized "3rd party build". I don't speak officially for the organization. The redistribution licence is at http://www.palemoon.org/redist.shtml You are allowed re-packaging only so far as necessary for the target OS (e.g. rpm, deb, pet). No add-ons, plugins, extra files, deletions, changes, etc. If you have any questions about the licence, click on "contact me" on that web page to get in touch with Moonchild. Since you're doing a "binary re-pack" I don't expect any problems.

hamoudoudou

Why do we find omni.ja twice in OPT ?

#523 Post by hamoudoudou »

Why do we find omni.ja twice in OPT ?
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hamoudoudou

french refused ! ???

#524 Post by hamoudoudou »

french refused ! ???
Most of Puppy Linux users can use English. Others will hardly succeed how to do, and leave soon or later
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Isn'it a pity ! Magyar without trouble..
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#525 Post by matchpoint »

Update, then "Preference" method. There's NO reason to run an outdated build of PaleMoon.
These language packs are for the latest version of the browser (v27). They will not work on older versions. If you are using an older version of the browser, please update to the current version first. If you for whatever reason....
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Re: Why do we find omni.ja twice in OPT ?

#526 Post by Walter Dnes »

hamoudoudou wrote:Why do we find omni.ja twice in OPT ?
They are different files with different sizes. They appear to be the Java "JAR" format, which is really a "zip" file. You can copy the JAR file with a "zip" extension into a separate subdirectory and unzip them. The version in the "palemoon/" subdirectory is larger and contains more files than the version in the "palemoon/browser/" directory. They happen to use the same name, but have different functions.

hamoudoudou

same name, but no same functiuns..

#527 Post by hamoudoudou »

same name, but no same functiuns.. Too difficult for me.

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#528 Post by bigpup »

Why do we find omni.ja twice in OPT ?
Because that is how the developers of Palemoon want it to work.
As I understand, one file is used for actual display of the browser and the other is used in display of web pages.

Probably keeps a bad coded web page from freezing up the browser. The bad code would only freeze up the web page.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
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#529 Post by greengeek »

Does the presence of omni.ja indicate that a java jre is required for Palemoon to run properly? Or does it indicate that Palemoon has some form of java runtime built in?

(I am happy with javascript but don't want anything to do with java)

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#530 Post by bigpup »

No. It is actually using unzip to unpack it.

Do not get all hung up over this.

It is just a type of compressed package file with files in it that Palemoon uses. Palemoon being based on Mozilla.
They use the jar format to compress/package stuff.
achieve performance improvements by moving many of their internal parts from being standalone files or sets of JAR files into just one JAR file called omni.ja ; this reduces the amount of I/O needed to load the application.

Note: Starting with Firefox 10 and Thunderbird 10, the file extension .ja is used because Windows System Restore does not back up files with the .jar extension, but it does back up .ja files. This change was needed to prevent Firefox from becoming corrupted.
That is a Windows problem, but .ja also works in Linux, so I guess they used it in both versions.

Whatever, it works! :D
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Re: Pale Moon 27.8.1 available

#531 Post by Walter Dnes »

Version 27.8.2 is available for downloading. This is a security update. The release notes are at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/

The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530

hamoudoudou

1 clic video Download.

#532 Post by hamoudoudou »

For downloading video from You Tubel with Palemoon 27.6.2, simply install addon
1 clic video Download.
I choose MP4.Than i can do what i like with it..
Dpup Stretch 7.5 build by Radky includes Palemoon
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[url][/url] and blank start page

#533 Post by sindi »

Does anyone else see square brackets around things like url and quote, and have to cut and paste URLs to access them?

Lupu 2016 with latest palemoon.

Preferences set to blank page for start, but it comes up as last page accessed.

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Re: Pale Moon 27.8.3 available

#534 Post by Walter Dnes »

Version 27.8.3 is available for downloading. This is a small update to solve a rather pervasive crash issue caused by layout code used for "responsive webpages". The release notes are at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/

The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530

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Re: [url][/url] and blank start page

#535 Post by Walter Dnes »

sindi wrote:Does anyone else see square brackets around things like url and quote, and have to cut and paste URLs to access them?
That shows up when you hit "Quote" to quote a user as part of a reply to this forum (and also other forums)
sindi wrote:Preferences set to blank page for start, but it comes up as last page accessed.
Two possibilities...
  1. Are you recovering from a crash or "killall palemoon" command? Pale Moon will attempt to restore the previous session in that case.
  2. Do you have multiple profiles? Maybe you've set one profile to start with blank, but you're opening another profile that doesn't have the setting.

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#536 Post by tallboy »

You should also delete the moonchild productions directory in /root/.cache/.
True freedom is a live Puppy on a multisession CD/DVD.

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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 available

#537 Post by Walter Dnes »

Version 27.9.0 is available for downloading. This is the last major development update for the v27 milestone (codenamed "Tycho"). After this, we will be focusing our efforts for new features entirely on UXP and the new v28 milestone building on it. We will continue to support v27.9 with security and stability updates for a while, but no major new features will be added from this point forward. The release notes are at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/

The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530

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#538 Post by tallboy »

...we will be focusing our efforts for new features entirely on UXP...
What is UXP?
True freedom is a live Puppy on a multisession CD/DVD.

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#539 Post by peebee »

https://www.basilisk-browser.org/

says

A XUL-based web-browser demonstrating the Unified XUL Platform (UXP).
This browser is a close twin to pre-Servo Firefox in how it operates.

Is this browser associated/affiliated with Mozilla?
In one word: No.
This browser is created and maintained by the team behind Pale Moon, and is a fully independent fork of the Mozilla/Firefox code.
ImageLxPup = Puppy + LXDE
Main version used daily: LxPupSc; Assembler of UPups, ScPup & ScPup64, LxPup, LxPupSc & LxPupSc64

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#540 Post by Walter Dnes »

tallboy wrote:
...we will be focusing our efforts for new features entirely on UXP...
What is UXP?
See first post in thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=18211 "Details about UXP in 2018" for more details. Basically, it was recently discovered that the current fork base (Firefox 55) already has some hard-coded stuff set up in preparation for Quantum/Rust/etc. This would get in the way of using the XUL base code for anything but a Firefox-like browser. Apparently, it's simpler and less work to re-fork off of Firefox 52 ESR than to undo the interconnected source code changes all over the place along the path from FF52 ESR to FF55.

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