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fredx181


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PostPosted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 17:48    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
how do you set a different locale? I know that you can do it in your Dogs, but there is nothing in the System menu that comes out of my mklive build.


By installing locale-conf and running from System > Set Locale/Language
It will install first the "locales" package and then gives choice for different locales and to set the default locale.
Works for me, but haven't seen any test reports from anyone.
https://fredx181.github.io/StretchDog/i386/Packages/Extra/locale-conf_1.0.0-s_all.deb

EDIT: Below screenshot menu locale set to dutch
EDIT2: And screenshot en Francais Wink

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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 18:19    Post subject:  

Thanks Fred. I tested the locales package and it looks good.
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 18:40    Post subject:  

How to install the Plank desktop dock

1. Run: apt-get install plank

2a. Start Plank from the Accessories menu.
2b. To make Plank auto-start at bootup, run: ln -sf /usr/bin/plank /root/Startup/plank

3. To add items to the dock, go to /usr/share/applications. Drag the .desktop files onto the dock.

4. To configure Plank, ctrl-right-click the dock and select Preferences.

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petihar


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PostPosted: Thu 22 Feb 2018, 04:09    Post subject:  

Good ! Excellent initiative, I'm quick to test Debian-Stretch-Live Starter Kit .
Regards petihar
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Thu 22 Feb 2018, 07:33    Post subject:  

How to install the VLC media player

You have two choices:

1. Install directly from the Debian repo.
Code:
apt-get update #if needed
apt-get install vlc

However, VLC needs a patch to run-as-root.
Run the command: sed -i 's/geteuid/getppid/' /usr/bin/vlc

2. Make a squash module using repo2sfs. Read here for details. Ignore the non-root stuff.

To enable run-as-root:
a. Stop at the pause for "fix anything in /tmp/repo2sfs".
b. Open a terminal (F4) and run: sed -i 's/geteuid/getppid/' /tmp/repo2sfs/usr/bin/vlc
c. Finish the build.
d. Load the module and run it from the Audio/Video menu.

Update: Repo2sfs will now automatically build VLC 3.0.3.

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keniv

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Feb 2018, 16:28    Post subject:  

@rcrsn51,
Thank you for this. I have been using Fred's xenial dog and now bionic beaver to run a sdr app called gqrx. I also have ubuntu 16.04 and XP on this machine. XP runs another sdr. Had to use grub2 (I think that's what ubuntu uses). I find it harder to use than grub4dos. Deb stretch live starter kit is up and running. Also using palemoon. As it happens I like it better than FF. Rather than in /live/modules I set it up to load on the fly. Also have gqrx installed and working. Thought it might be a bit faster on this but I'm not sure it is but it's working. Have not come across any problems yet.

Regards,

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PostPosted: Thu 22 Feb 2018, 16:43    Post subject:  

Thanks for testing.

There probably isn't much of a difference in speed. The only real difference is the size of 01-filesystem.squashfs. But it's not being loaded into RAM, so its size shouldn't have any major side effects on the applications that are running.

Fred could comment on this better than I.
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Fri 23 Feb 2018, 14:06    Post subject:  

@keniv and @rcrsn51

Quote:
There probably isn't much of a difference in speed. The only real difference is the size of 01-filesystem.squashfs. But it's not being loaded into RAM, so its size shouldn't have any major side effects on the applications that are running.


Yes, not much, Bionicdog is probably a little more bloated because of more startup processes (and maybe because of (default) systemd boot Question )

@all, Another subject, for info:
There is deb-mutimedia repository which can be activated by uncommenting it (remove the "#" ) from /etc/apt/sources.list, so becomes this:
Code:
#Debian Multimedia
deb ftp://ftp.deb-multimedia.org/ stretch main non-free

Then, in terminal:
Code:
apt-get update

EDIT: And install deb-multimedia-keyring:
Code:
apt-get install deb-multimedia-keyring
apt-get update

This repository has more multimedia apps included than the stock Debian repo's , or/and different/newer builds.
For example the vlc package has gtk2 support (more convenient from "Open file"), can be set in Preferences from "Interface settings", see screenshot.

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Feb 2018, 18:04    Post subject:  

@fredx181 and @rcrsn51,
As I said in an earlier post this machine is probably not up to the demands that sdr packages put on machines but as I don't have anything better I have to use it. I thought I might save some CPU cycles which might help with the sdr program but this has turned out not to be the case. Thanks for the explanation as to why. However, I still really like these dogs. I have added a few more small debs to this one from Freds repro linked to in the first post. These include firewall-puppy, evince and uextract. Installation went well. I have not tried anything yet that did not work. I like the idea of being able to build a dog to more exactly match my needs. I don't have the skills to do this for myself.

Regards,

Ken.
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Feb 2018, 18:55    Post subject:  

I did a manual frugal install. I didn't do much with it, but it seems to work flawlessly.

Great job.

My only comment is to consider adding the quick-remaster. I can't imagine it takes much space and then it would have the built in ability to reproduce itself.
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PostPosted: Fri 23 Feb 2018, 19:46    Post subject:  

Thanks for testing.

Quote:
it seems to work flawlessly.

It should. It's just a minimal build of Fred's mklive script with some extra utilities.

Quote:
My only comment is to consider adding the quick-remaster. I can't imagine it takes much space and then it would have the built in ability to reproduce itself.

I left out remastering because I never do it and I can't provide any help. But people can easily put it back in by getting the packages from Fred's repo.

Then he can be the support person. Wink

Or they can use this ISO to run their own mklive build with their own selection of packages.

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PostPosted: Fri 23 Feb 2018, 21:18    Post subject:  

Here is the 64bit version of the Debian-Stretch-Live Starter Kit (with the new k4.9.0-6 kernel):
http://www.mediafire.com/file/zs1wdl454jddw6p/DebLive_Stretch-amd64-60.iso
Code:
657650a7e2935628d54f28da7c9dce79  DebLive_Stretch-amd64-60.iso

and the 64bit Palemoon squashfs module:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/koh5xtx7clhotch/palemoon-27.7.2.en-US.linux-x86_64.squashfs
Code:
ff459eb877023d04459eebffc1ffab70  palemoon-27.7.2.en-US.linux-x86_64.squashfs

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How to make your own 64bit Google Chrome Browser squashfs module

Get the repo2sfs tool from Page 1. If you are new to this, do the test-run first.

Now for Chrome - you will need a non-root user:

In the System Tools menu, run Add New User
Create a user named "guest" with password "guest"
Accept the default list of groups, especially Audio

Download Chrome:
Code:
wget --no-check-cert https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb

Extract the chrome-guest-setup script attached below.

Because you are working with a 3rd-party Debian package, you will run repo2sfs a bit differently:
Start in an empty folder holding the chrome-guest-setup script and the Chrome .deb package.

Open a teminal (F4) and type: repo2sfs google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb (Hint: use Tab completion)

Part-way through, you will get this dialog:
Code:
In the next step, the package will be temporarily removed ...
Press Enter to continue:

Continue the build.
Stop at the pause for "fix anything in /tmp/repo2sfs".
Open another terminal and run the chrome-guest-setup script.

Finish the build.
Load the module and run Google Chrome from the Internet menu.

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Moat


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PostPosted: Sat 24 Feb 2018, 02:36    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
You will need the repo2sfs tool attached below. It is a general-purpose script that pulls an app and its dependencies from the Debian repo and converts it into a squash module.


What a fantastic tool this is, sir!! In my personal mklive-stretch/Xfce build/re-master/project, it took this dingbat but three minutes to create perfectly-functioning .sfs's of Audacity and Gimp. The mind reels as to what to build next... Shocked Smile

Thanks so much for this - as well as PeasyWiFi, which in my above build has been fast-connecting, trouble-free and solid as a rock (using WiFi only, so far). Wonderful stuff!! Very Happy

And thanks also to Fred for his incredible mklive-stretch script and re-mastering tools!! Very Happy

Bob
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backi

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Location: GERMANY

PostPosted: Sat 24 Feb 2018, 04:09    Post subject:  

Hi !
Just want to remind .....in Xenial/Debian Dog there is AptToSfs in Accessoire/Module Section which accomplish the same as repo2sfs .I think it is overlooked a lot somehow .
This Tool is one of my favorite Gimmicks .

Nevertheless want.. to thank rcrsn51 for his diligent never ending and creative Work .
Heaps of Tools and Contributions from him to the Community .
Thanks again .....So keep on rocking ...my Friends .
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PostPosted: Sat 24 Feb 2018, 04:57    Post subject:  

Ahh, yes, backi... I just built a working Stellarium .sfs with AptToSfs! Initially, by it's description I thought it was something a bit different (i.e. - building an .sfs from already installed packages) - but now see that it's functionally nearly the same as repo2sfs.

Both great, great tools! Smile

Bob
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