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USB-Mouse not working in Slacko 6.3 after HD install
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rimatheou

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Location: Germany

PostPosted: Mon 08 Jan 2018, 10:12    Post subject:  

This is what I see in the client logbook (router menu):

Code:

[...]
ip=192.168.2.106   mac=00-80-88-03-0E-3B   name=puppypc18902
[...]

hmmm... Puppy is known to the router, but the SSID is not known to Puppy (when I boot from USB).
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rimatheou

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jan 2018, 10:51    Post subject:  

@ mikeslr
Carolina with xfce needs
Quote:
a bit more ram and cpu than the standard ROX/Jwm puppy - probably at least 512MB of ram and 1GHz CPU for decent performance.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=656241#656241
That's too much!
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rimatheou

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jan 2018, 12:12    Post subject:  

Unicorn 6.0

Booting from USB:
- both the mouse and the trackpoint stick are not working, either after mouse/keyboard setup.
- SNS detects no interface, neither eth0 nor wlan0.

HD install: I spare myself
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slavvo67

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Jan 2018, 17:34    Post subject:  

I also have ongoing mouse problems (non-wireless). For me, it's in RU Xerus (quirky) and usually happens when I am push the computer's resources ....

such as when I'm using WoofQ to build.....

Sometimes, plugging into a new port works, sometimes it doesn't. I use a 4 port USB extension, which may be part of the issue. Still, I think there's something deeper going on here; Woof code or maybe a generic driver that's older than the hills.

I'm going to try to dig into this deeper in RU Xerus. We'll see...
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greengeek


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PostPosted: Sat 13 Jan 2018, 15:01    Post subject:  

Hi Rimatheou, were you relatively happy with the mouse performance of the last Lupu you tried?

If I read your results correctly Lupu seemed ok except not good at detecting wireless networks. I think it would be good to look at the wifi problems more closely using Lupu.

Bigpup suggested some Network Wizard troubleshooting steps here and that would be one of the possible ways for us to collect information.

There are also other tools that will let us work out what puppy sees when it looks for your wifi. Is it worth focussing on Lupu now or do you still want recommendations for other puppies to try? (the larger swap partition should open up the opportunity to try some other puppies if you want).
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rimatheou

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Jan 2018, 07:57    Post subject:  

Hi Greengeek, I decided to use lupu 528. Mouse perfomance is good. Now I go through the steps Bigpup wrote. After step 3 (Select Wireless in the Configure wireless network box) I get this message:
Code:

Note: The interface you have slected uses the prism2_usb module, which is not included in our list of modules supporting WPA encryption.

However, if you know for a fact that it does support WPA, or wish to test if it does [...], click the 'Add To list' button. This will add the module to a configuration file for future use.

I clicked on 'Add to List'. Then prism2_usb was added to the configuration file /etc/network-wizard/wpa_modules and the wpa supplicant driver wext was also added.
I continued with step 4 (Scan...) => no wireless networks were found.
Switching encryption to WEP in the router menu => no networks were detected.
Switching to no encryption => no networks were detected.
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greengeek


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PostPosted: Thu 18 Jan 2018, 13:43    Post subject:  

I wonder if the module being loaded by Lupu is faulty.

Your post here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=979251#979251 shows that Slacko 5.6 identified your wlan hardware as a usb device with id of 04f1:3009 which is made by the Victor Company of Japan, Ltd and is known as a MP-XP7250 WLAN Adapter. (also see P2 of the pdf I link below)

Your post above says that the driver module (prism2_usb) being loaded for that adapter does not have WPA capability.

This pdf: http://www.iwaniwanowitsch.net/Home/Information/Linux/Ubuntu/Howto/WLAN/prism2%20usb.pdf has more info and says the same thing - that the prism2_usb driver lacks WPA support. This implies that your wifi network is wpa and that is why it is not beeing seen.

That pdf suggests that there may be other ways to blacklist prism2_usb and use a different driver module. I have never used blacklisting so i can't help you achieve that. The next question is what alternative module might support WPA on that hardware?

I do have a suggestion - could you boot Slacko again and enter the command:

lsmod

so that we can confirm what module Slacko was loading to that card.

(maybe post the Lupu output of lsmod also?)
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rimatheou

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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jan 2018, 11:16    Post subject:  

lsmod from Slacko5.6
Code:

Module                  Size  Used by
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sis                     3701  1
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snd_pcm_oss            26791  0
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pcspkr                  1236  0
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rimatheou

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Location: Germany

PostPosted: Sun 21 Jan 2018, 11:18    Post subject:  

lsmod from lupu528
Code:

Module                  Size  Used by
drm                   106327  0
snd_trident            22686  0
snd_util_mem            1464  1 snd_trident
snd_mpu401_uart         3899  1 snd_trident
prism2_usb            144361  0
gameport                5717  2 snd_trident
snd_seq_dummy            907  0
snd_intel8x0m           7948  5
snd_ac97_codec         75789  2 snd_trident,snd_intel8x0m
ac97_bus                 686  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_seq_oss            18888  0
snd_pcm_oss            26845  0
snd_seq_midi            3156  0
snd_seq_midi_event      3592  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_mixer_oss           9963  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm                45385  6 snd_trident,snd_intel8x0m,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_rawmidi            11924  2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_midi
snd_page_alloc          4645  3 snd_trident,snd_intel8x0m,snd_pcm
snd_seq                32379  6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          3601  5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd_timer              11986  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
ohci1394               20716  0
snd                    30859  20 snd_trident,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_intel8x0m,snd_ac97_codec,snd_seq_oss,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_timer
ieee1394               50116  1 ohci1394
soundcore               3403  1 snd
fan                     2478  0
sis_agp                 3121  1
i2c_sis630              3358  0
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sis900                 13650  0
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yenta_socket           16079  2
rsrc_nonstatic          6693  1 yenta_socket

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greengeek


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PostPosted: Sun 21 Jan 2018, 14:26    Post subject:  

Thanks - I was hoping to be able to spot which driver module Slacko is using for your wifi but it is not jumping out at me. Could you post the output of the following command when running Slacko?

readlink /sys/class/net/wlan0/device/driver
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PostPosted: Mon 22 Jan 2018, 08:05    Post subject:  

Quote:
I continued with step 4 (Scan...) => no wireless networks were found.

As I understand.
This step only searches for wireless signals in the area.
If the wifi adapter is working. It should find them if there are any.
Encryption (wpa, wep, etc...) comes into play when actually trying to setup a connection with one of the signals.
Probably need a better driver.

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rimatheou

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Jan 2018, 10:43    Post subject:  

greengeek wrote:
Could you post the output of the following command when running Slacko?

readlink /sys/class/net/wlan0/device/driver


When I run this command in Slacko5.6, I have no output.
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PostPosted: Tue 23 Jan 2018, 12:12    Post subject:  

@rimatheou: When you originally did the hard drive install, did you also copy the zdrv.sfs file? Newer Puppies have it - older ones don't.

It contains driver files that may be needed to make your mouse work.
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rimatheou

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PostPosted: Thu 25 Jan 2018, 12:16    Post subject:  

@ rcrsn51
When booting slacko6.3.2 from USB, X failed to start after configuration of xorgwizard.
Choosing vesa, the system hangs up,
choosing modesetting and Nothing - Let Xorg guess it:
Code:

Fatal server error: no screens found(EE)

I also removed the zdrv-sfs-file and booted live, but I had the same result of X.

The same procedure with Slacko6.3.0.
I made the live-usb-drive your way described here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=54566
I think I had no problems with X when I transfered the .iso completely to the usb drive with dd.
When I boot tahr6.0.6 from usb I don't have any window manager. I only see the task menu bar.
Unicorn6.0 is working fine from USB.
But booting from HD and having it installed with the zdrv-file, the mouse is NOT working. It's also not possible to make a setup.
Slacko5.7 doesn't have any zdrv-file.
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PostPosted: Wed 31 Jan 2018, 14:10    Post subject:  

Hi Rimatheou, all of the information I can find states that your inbuilt wifi adapter does not have a Linux driver that is capable of supporting WPA.

That wifi interface has a windows driver that supports WPA - but not a suitable Linux driver. (the non-usb versions of that adapter do have Linux drivers that seem to support WPA to some extent but this does not help you).

I think your choices are as follows:
- Change your routers security protocol to WEP or open (bad idea)
- Fit a new wifi adapter (either usb or pcmcia) that supports WPA
- Try loading the windows driver to your current inbuilt adapter. I think this is what people call "ndiswrapper" method. Sorry I do not know how to do this. Hopefully someone else will have some idea if/how it is possible for you.
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