USB-Mouse not working in Slacko 6.3 after HD install

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#21 Post by bigpup »

What Graphics hardware do you have?
AMD?
Intel?
Nvidia?
What??

If it is SiS. (Silicon Integrated Systems)

The Vesa driver is about all that may work.
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#22 Post by bigpup »

Are you really wanting to use Slacko?
Maybe a different Puppy would work better.
Tahrpup 6.0.5 or 6.0.6.
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pu ... 20-6.0-CE/
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Specs for OP notebook

#23 Post by 8Geee »

The Lenovo W510 is known to include the following;

15.6-inch multi-touch FHD (1920 x 1080) LED Backlit 95% Gamut (matte finish)
Windows 7 Professional (64bit)
Intel Core i7-920XM (2GHz, 8MB Cache)
8GB DDR3 RAM (4GB + 4GB)
500GB Seagate 7200.4 HDD (7200rpm)
Intel 6300 802.11AGN, Bluetooth, Gobi 2000 WWAN
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#24 Post by rimatheou »

The graphics is SiS63OST. I will also try a diffrent Puppy.

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#25 Post by rimatheou »

I've installed tahr-6.0.6-uefi, but this is a frugal installation again. Is there also a non-frugal installation?

Booted from Live-tahr, the USB-mouse was working; booted from hd, the usb-mouse is not working, but the trackpoint-stick is working. I don't know if the trackpoint-stick was working while booting from usb, I didn't test it.

X is working fine. Wired connection is working. I can't open the browser (browser icon on desktop). Is this for the standard-browser? I also cannot open "help". Alt+F4 is working. I'd like to solve the mouse-problem, because the stick is quite uncomfortable.

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#26 Post by bigpup »

The software gods are just messing with you!

About installing.

Puppy works best as a frugal install on any storage device. You only get some of it's features as a frugal install.
It is still a complete install of the Puppy OPS.
Booted from Live-tahr, the USB-mouse was working; booted from hd, the usb-mouse is not working
There has to be something you are doing wrong when you do the install to hard drive!

Boot with the Tahrpup live on the USB drive.
Delete the install on the hard drive.
Run the Puppy Universal installer.
Do the hard drive install using this program.

Any help??

menu>Setup>Mouse/Keyboard Wizard>Touchpad
Here is where setup for the touchpad can be adjusted.
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#27 Post by rimatheou »

Booting from USB wlan is detected. Booting from hd no wlan is detected.

I choose the universal installer. Then 'Internal IDE/SATA hard drive', then sda ATA ..., I have several partitions, I have sda1: vfat, size 7GB. I formatted sda1 to ext4 => didn't work, then ext3, I can choose between frugal and full, I choose frugal and with ext3 mouse and wlan are not working, neither with ext2. Maybe I should choose "FULL" instead of "FRUGAL". I'll give it a try.

menu>Setup>Mouse/Keyboard Wizard>Touchpad has no effect.

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#28 Post by rimatheou »

Dead mouse also with FULL installation.

When installing Grub4Dos I have following options:
- Search within only this device
- Do not rewrite 'menu.lst'
- Single page menu
- Legacy compatible 'menu.lst'
- Do not rewrite the existing boot record

Should I activate one of them?

At Grub4DosConfig - List of detected operating systems

I have this field
Options: ro

Hmmm?

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#29 Post by greengeek »

rimatheou wrote:I have a JVC Mobile Mini Note PC, Pentium 3, 384 MB RAM.
I don't think you have enough ram to run this modern puppy. I recommend you try an older puppy first - and see if mouse behaviour is better. What happens if you boot Puppy 4.3.1?

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#30 Post by greengeek »

rimatheou wrote:While booting I get this message:

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The file /etc/mousebuttons has been created, with content "5".
Just for the record - I see this message every time I boot Slacko 5.6 and everything works fine. Don't know what it means but doesn't seem to be a problem.

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#31 Post by rimatheou »

Tahrpup 6.0.6 now is installed, but booting from USB is not possible

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Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format
I've tried 4.3.1 and 5.0. Now I think I have damaged both USB drives, I get an error from gparted:

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set partition type on /dev/sdb1  00:00:00    ( SUCCESS )
     	
new partition type: fat32
create new fat32 file system  00:00:00    ( ERROR )
     	
mkfs.fat -F32 -v -I -n " " /dev/sdb1  00:00:00    ( ERROR )
     	
mkfs.fat 3.0.28 (2015-05-16)
mkfs.fat: unable to open /dev/sdb1: Device or resource busy
But the device is unmounted and can't be busy.

Do i need a partition table on the usb drive?

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#32 Post by bigpup »

When installing Grub4Dos I have following options:
- Search within only this device
YES

- Do not rewrite 'menu.lst'
- Single page menu
- Legacy compatible 'menu.lst'
- Do not rewrite the existing boot record

Should I activate one of them?
Only the first one. All the boot menu needs is list of what is on the hard drive.

All others should be unchecked.
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#33 Post by bigpup »

rimatheou wrote:Tahrpup 6.0.6 now is installed, but booting from USB is not possible

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Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format
I've tried 4.3.1 and 5.0. Now I think I have damaged both USB drives, I get an error from gparted:

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set partition type on /dev/sdb1  00:00:00    ( SUCCESS )
     	
new partition type: fat32
create new fat32 file system  00:00:00    ( ERROR )
     	
mkfs.fat -F32 -v -I -n " " /dev/sdb1  00:00:00    ( ERROR )
     	
mkfs.fat 3.0.28 (2015-05-16)
mkfs.fat: unable to open /dev/sdb1: Device or resource busy
But the device is unmounted and can't be busy.

Do i need a partition table on the usb drive?
To have a partition on it, it has to have a partition table, So, it has one.

This USB drive is definitely unmounted and nothing is running from it?

Note:
Need to be using the Gparted in one of the newer Puppies. (Slacko 6.3.0, Tahrpup 6.0.6, etc...)

Close Gparted.
Unplug the USB drive.
Plug the USB drive back in.
Start Gparted.
If it shows partitions on the drive.
Right click on the first one.
Select check.
If it found any errors.
Keep running the check until no errors reported.
Do this for any other partitions on the drive.

If still getting errors.

Delete all the partitions on the drive and start over partitioning and formatting.

Note:
Would not hurt anything if you made a new partition table before you partitioned and formatted.

Note:
With older Puppies ext 3 format is the best.
They may or may not have full support for ext 4.


YOU need to do this same check of the partitions on the hard drive!!!!!
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#34 Post by rimatheou »

Another thing is that the vmlinuz file (pup 4.3.1) on the usb drive and in the extracted folder is not detected from my xubuntu. It must be a dos executable or stuff like that.

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#35 Post by rimatheou »

I made a new partition with fdisk (http://ramiro.org/blog/usbdrive-unter-l ... rmatieren/), and a new filesystem with mkfs (fat32, i always used this filesystem). Then a dd with the puppy.iso. When I now open gparted, the partition and the filesystem are unallocated. There must be a more crucial command line way to restore the drive.

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#36 Post by bigpup »

If Gparted shows the partition unallocated.
It is not formatted.

If Gparted shows the drive unallocated.
It is not partitioned and formatted.

Just do it using Gparted.
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#37 Post by rimatheou »

So far, I think the USB drive is working with FAT 32. I used a different pc to format with gparted.
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In pup-431.iso I changed the isolinux.cfg from pmedia=cd to pmedia=usbflash. But it is still not possible to boot:

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Booting boot from sdb (Kingston DataTraveler 2.0)
chainloader (hd0)+1
Error 13: Invalid or unsupported executable format
Hmm...

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#38 Post by bigpup »

Change it back to pmedia=cd and see what happens.

Understand a lot of stuff has changed in Puppy since Puppy 4.3.1

That isolinux.cfg is about as basic as one could be.

At that time in Puppy development, installs to a usb flash drive was a new thing and not that well supported.
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#39 Post by rimatheou »

bigpup wrote:Change it back to pmedia=cd and see what happens.
I think it will happen the same thing when I booted the first time with pmedia=cd: the above error.

What about the software god? Pray for a solution? There must be one.
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#40 Post by bigpup »

Are you booting from just the files on the USB as a live Puppy or are you booting from a boot loader menu, with an entry for Puppy 4.3.1?
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