Lucid Puppy Revitalized as 5.2.8.7 - Nov., 2017 - Final

[keniv]

Has anybody got pup radio/tv to work. I am using sulu 002 (the most recent version) with known working urls. This is what I get running in a terminal.

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GMLIB-Message: after init: position=0.000 length=0.000 start_time=0.000 run_time=0.000 volume=0.00 player=dead media=unknown uri=

I have this running in the last version of sulu 002 using the same url. Here is the url

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http://bbcmedia.ic.llnwd.net/stream/bbcmedia_radio1_mf_p|BBC Radio 1

Regards,

Ken.

[rerwin]

I have begun creating and uploading what I expect to be the final version of Lucid Pup, version 20171125. The only difference from 20171110 is an update of the interface to RedhiftGUI, to match the version submitted to woofCE.

In addition to replacing the lupu, sulu2 and sulu4 variants, I have added their *libre variants with LO 5.3.7 and the current Java.

Even though this is the "final", please report any new problems, in case I can produce a patching .pet package for it (or replace the ISOs if necessary).

I am afraid that we are at the end of the road with browsers in Lucid Pup. My take is that only SeaMonkey 2.46 is the most reliable, although not perfect. Use the others with the glibc219 package only if you can accept their functionality limitations.

The link is still: http://www.mediafire.com/?5il6yef4h3sdj. The links to the individual variants in the first post of this thread have been updated (except for the "pluses", which are awaiting LO 5.4.4).
Richard

[keniv]

I have downloaded some you tube videos as mp4 files using youtube-dl. They play using lupusuper2-5.2.8.7-k3.2.48-20161228 but they don't play on lupusuper2-5.2.8.7-k3.2.48-20171110 or lupusuper1-5.2.8.7-k3.0.25-20171125.
I assume this might be something to do with the updates unless I am missing something. They also play on presice 5.7.1 and racy 5.5. I did try installing vlc 1.1.10. to lupusuper2-5.2.8.7-k3.2.48-20171110 but they did not play on vlc either. The videos were downloaded in the last week so not something I've had on my drive for a long time. I'd be grateful for any help.

Regards,

Ken.

[don922]

I am currently using lupu3hd-5.2.8.7-20161228.

I would like to update this to the latest version - lupu3hd-5.2.8.7-20171125.

What is the easiest and fastest way to do this update. Previously I would do a new installation of the update; which seemed to be a waste of time.

What do you recommend?

[mikeslr]

Hi don922,

This should but may not work. But it's reasonably fast. And this procedure enables recovery if there's a problem.

1. Make a copy of your SaveFile. Change its name to reflect the current date.
2. Boot Puppy using it.
3. Open your web-browser to http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 045#974045 which shows rerwin's upgrades.
4. You can safely ignore any "builtins". But the files in your SaveFile would have priority over packages rerwin included in the XXX_SFS*. Open Puppy Package Manager and uninstall any application you installed which may conflict with those changes: the same or older. SAVE the changes.
5. Boot into either a different Puppy or your Puppy with pfix=ram -- that is without using your SaveFile.
6. Mount the lupu3hd-5.2.8.7-20171125.ISO.
7. Optional (but safer) . Move the old initrd.gz, vmlinuz and XXX.sfs files into a folder where it won't be picked up by your boot loader.
8. Substitute the new Initrd.gz, vmlinuz and XXX_.sfs for the old ones.
9. Boot your upgraded Puppy.
10. If all is well, delete your old SFS and old Initrd.gz, vmlinuz and XXX_.sfs,

mikesLr

* I don't have a copy of the lupu3hd.iso. But there generally are three essential files within the ISO: initrd.gz, vmlinuz and a file ending in SFS which has a name --such as sulu or lupu-- and sometimes a number.

[rerwin]

4. You can safely ignore any "builtins". But the files in your SaveFile would have priority over packages rerwin included in the XXX_SFS*. Open Puppy Package Manager and uninstall any application you installed which may conflict with those changes: the same or older.

This may be more than is necessary. The remaster_package_check window that pops up on first bootup with a new release should handle most of the conflicts. It should catch conflicting packages and offer to uninstall them, one by one. Then it offers to remove duplicate files, which are created by uninstalling. Then it presents files that may conflict, but any in the root and etc directories may be your customized settings that should be retained. Assess each individually.

[mikeslr]

Hi rerwin,

Having had to replace my computer about a year ago for a newer, more powerful model, I haven't kept track of Lucid for a while. Forgot about your how thorough you are.

I hope, as this will be your last version of Lucid , that you plan to apply your abilities and dedication to user friendliness to some other project.

Thanks for keeping Lucid viable for as long as possible.

mikesLr

[rerwin]

mikeslr,
Thank you for your compliment. I expect to migrate to xenialpup and to support woofCE as appropriate. And I am considering adapting the latest frisbee for the "dogs" since theirs is way out of date. I am open to requests where there is a need.
Richard

[ally]

would be nice to take fresh look jemimah's puppeee

I know it was machine specific but it was a marvel, it's functionality and content, awesome

[rockedge]

I will miss Lucid......thanks for all the work on it. My entire journey into the world of Puppy Linux really got going with Lucid 5.2 and I just had to use the latest version of 5.2.8.7 on a machine that really had some time under the belt and Lucid found the ethernet card and the 56k fax modem which Tahr and Xenial don't have the drivers for.

I will have quite a few ISO and CD's saved just in case........

[sheldonisaac]

My entire journey into the world of Puppy Linux really got going with Lucid 5.2

Same for me! Thanks a lot to playdayz, and now to Richard!

[keniv]

I too will miss Lucid. It has always been my favourite puppy.

Regards,

Ken.

[rerwin]

Thanks for your sentiments about Lucid Pup. But it is not going away. Although its usefulness for browsers is essentially gone, it is still viable as a workstation for documents and other computer activities that don't involve browsers, other than dillo. I plan to release a 20171125 lupulibre version in the spring that contains the final version of LibreOffice 5.4, and maybe the next final LO in the fall if there is any interest in it.

For those needing LibreOffice as an SFS package, I uploaded LO 5.3.7 and the current java package here:
http://www.mediafire.com/file/nquucapce ... -US_gz.sfs
b339bda35a3b8d69c71806b713eb5915

http://www.mediafire.com/file/9fqzpyztb ... 586_gz.sfs
c6c4089e9b91f9a0065da43a1e86a6c1

[s243a]

The devx download link doesn't work in quickpet.

[s243a]

I found a version of devx and kernal sources at the following link:

http://shinobar.server-on.net/puppy/lupu/

but I don't know if it is the right version.

[s243a]

Is there a way to enable copy and paste on the Dillo browser. The Dillo browser would be much more usefull if I could copy links and text from it to seamonkey.

[s243a]

Development Support, Proprietary
Kernel Source

• lupu: http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/lupu_ke ... atched.sfs
  lupusuper2: http://www.mediafire.com/file/p6ck3p118 ... atched.sfs
  lupusuper3: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/linux_ke ... pup.tar.gz
  lupusuper4: http://www.smokey01.com/pemasu/Kernel_s ... up-raring/

This is probably what I was looking for in my previous post.

[s243a]

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[tallboy]

Hi s243a.
From https://www.dillo.org/dillo2-help.html:

Copy&Paste:
Just hold down the left mouse button and move to select the area to copy. To paste, go to the target application and press the middle mouse button.
If you want to select more than one screen, hold the mouse button down and scroll with PgUp, PgDn or the arrow keys.
If you want to paste an URL into Dillo, do it on the "clear-URL" button (the "X" next to the location bar).
Note: If it doesn't work, please try again. There's a bug lurking there.

The bold text is my emph., the text is from the manual!

If you don't have a .dillorc file, you can copy this one to /root if you want to make some modifications:
https://www.dillo.org/dillo-2.x/dillorc

tallboy

Addition: from line 20 or thereabout in .dillorc:

# Mouse middle click by default drives drag-scrolling.
# To paste an URL into the window instead of scrolling, set it to NO.
# Note: You could always paste the URL onto the URL box clear button.
#middle_click_drags_page=YES

BTW:
And I found both /etc/dillo/dillorc and /usr/etc/dillo/dillorc in my Lucid 5.2.8.7, no wonder things may be hard to set. According to the man page, user mods should be found in /root/.dillo/dillorc, not just /root/.dillorc as I suggested above.

[s243a]

After experimenting with the various browsers provided in this thread I conclude that only seamonkey-2.46 is reliable with lucid pup. Even with 2.46, flashplayer issues some warnings that do not seem to impact its operation. SM-2.48 and Palemoon require at least the glibc 2.19 upgrade of the glib components but issue some warnings or errors when used with add-ons.

no-script installs on palmoon without issue, which isn't available in the version of seamonkey that comes with your latest iso.

Furthermore, sylpheed 3.4.1 issues error messages and OpenSSL seems to cause problems with other programs rejecting newer versions of some library components.

I got your palemoon pet working. I'll let you know if I get this error.

To maintain Lucid Pup's reputation for stability, I omit the upgrades that provide or require library components beyond those provided by the Lucid repos.

Makes sence but I like palemoon so I installed those upgrades.

However, the glibc219 and palemoon installer packages are available (see below) for those accepting the limitations of seamonkey 2.48 and palemoon in the lucid environment.

Did this and it worked . Thankyou very much

I expect this to be the final release of lucid pup 5.2.8.7 unless there are last-minute patches.

I see that ISOs have been updated since I read this post so I expect another version is brewing.

It is intended for those installations that don't need the latest browsers or cannot be upgraded to a newer Puppy due to hardware constraints. Because of the browser situation, I feel it is time to move on to XenialPup or some other relatively new Puppy. I plan to migrate to Xenial 7.0.9 for my own use, but am open to other recommendations.

Quite a jump in versions but it makes since as long as your computer isn't too old. That said, Lupu is awesome and tahrpup is still quite fresh.

I view the new release as a a "release candidate", to allow for fixes. So, please report any issues that should be corrected for this final version.

I'll let you know. P.S. how do I disable the touchpad?

The 20171110 release disk images are here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?5il6yef4h3sdj


xTo add support for seamonkey 2.48+ and palemoon, install glibc219_runtime and (optionally) palemoon_installer (which installs SSE version where necessary):

• glibc219_runtime-lucid-20171103.pet:
  http://www.mediafire.com/file/hnywn3e12 ... 171103.pet
  
  palemoon_installer-0.2.3-lucid-20171024.pet:
  http://www.mediafire.com/file/eel9coeyw ... 171024.pet

As a note when I first tried these pets it didn't work. I did strace palemoon and realized that it never installed but the installer thought it did. Not sure if it was some random quirk with my system or a legit bug. Anyway, if it helps I first tried the palemoon installer from the menu. After doing an strace and realizing it wasn't there I tried it from the command line. Palmoon thought it was already installed, so I selected uninstall from the installer and for good measure I ran one of the uninstall scripts from the package folder. I than ran the install script from the command line, selected the latest version of palemoon and it worked . Actually palemoon so far seems to be running better for me on lupu than it has on tahrpup but that's probably just because I haven't used it for that long on lupu.