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PostPosted: Thu 07 Dec 2017, 13:06    Post subject:  

Softpedia News promoting Puppy Xenialpup 7.5
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=112273

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PostPosted: Sat 09 Dec 2017, 15:50    Post subject: taskbar/traybar bug in the icons
Subject description: right click over the taskbar icons closes them, xenialpup, tahrpup
 

Puppy Linux Taskbar/Traybar Bug

There are several small but annoying bugs in the puppy’s taskbar, all of them are similar, a right tap/click on the savefile size icon, the temperature icon, the network indicator icon and the firewall icon is detected as a two tap/click event. It causes the execution/selection, via the imaginary second click, of the option where the pointer happens to be at that moment. It can be seen in the following screencast.

A screencast showing the buggy behavior

Description of the screencast,

Firewall icon: a right click is probably detected as two clicks, the first click opening the menu, and the "second click" selecting the turn on/off option.

Savefile size icon: a right click is probably detected as two clicks, the first click opening the menu, and the "second click" selecting the quit option

Temperature icon: a right click is probably detected as two clicks, the first click opening the menu, and the "second click" selecting the quit option

Network monitor icon: a right click is probably detected as two clicks, the first click opening the menu, and the "second click" selecting the network status option

The rest of the icons in the taskbar behave properly, a right click on the icon opens the menu as you can see it here,

A screencast showing the expected behavior

Guys, I don't have programming experience so the only thing I can do is to report, this bug is not XenialPup specific since it also occurs in TahrPup.
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ally


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PostPosted: Sat 09 Dec 2017, 16:01    Post subject:  

the show desktop taskbar icon always confused me why it needed 2 clicks

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don570


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PostPosted: Sat 09 Dec 2017, 16:42    Post subject:  

BarryK has a script to install pyro64 to a drive i.e. a USB stick
pyro-0.5/4install-quirky-to-drive-mbr

it uses probedisk command
Code:
 echo "These are all of the drives found in your PC:"
 INFODRIVES="$(probedisk -m | sed -e 's%/dev/%%')"
 


The script doesn't work in Xenial because of probedisk -m

Code:

root# probedisk -m
* probedisk -m: unknown option. type 'probedisk -help'

root# probedisk
/dev/sda|drive|ATA SAMSUNG HD103SJ
/dev/sdb|usbdrv|Kingston DataTraveler 2.0
/dev/sr0|optical|SAMSUNG DVD-ROM SD-616E


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666philb


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PostPosted: Mon 11 Dec 2017, 15:21    Post subject:  

James C wrote:

On my first frugal install I basically experienced the same with the 340.xxx driver from Quickpet.
Running "nvidia-xconfig" totally froze the computer leading to a hard reboot.And I did doublecheck on the Nvidia site to cofirm the correct driver.Deleted the savefolder and here we are.

hi James C,
can you try this driver, http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet_packages-xenial64/nvidia-340-b_K4.9.58-x86_64.pet
it's probably be best to try on a test save

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Dec 2017, 15:36    Post subject:  

belham2 wrote:
Hi Phil,

Been using Xenial64 quite awhile (previous versions and up thru the latest), and really like it. Only one thing, a problem---that I mentioned to you this past summer---has crept up again with 7.5: when logging out or rather 'shutting down', and the option comes up to "Save" or "NoSave"....... everything is frozen again & I can't even make a choice. I'm forced to hard shutdown the computer, losing what I had wanted to "Save".



hi belham2,

is it actually frozen? have you tried leaving it for 60 seconds to see if it shuts down after the timeout.
i had a similar problem with a tahrpup64 usb, for some reason (probably something i'ld installed) i couldn't select yes or no in the save dialog.
It did shut down after about 60secs though i think.

does it happen on a vanilla save with nothing installed?

it might also be worth opening 'htop' before shutting down to see if it's been using swap heavily

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Dec 2017, 16:21    Post subject: Re: taskbar/traybar bug in the icons
Subject description: right click over the taskbar icons closes them, xenialpup, tahrpup
 

tenochslb wrote:
Puppy Linux Taskbar/Traybar Bug

There are several small but annoying bugs in the puppy’s taskbar, all of them are similar, a right tap/click on the savefile size icon, the temperature icon, the network indicator icon and the firewall icon is detected as a two tap/click event. It causes the execution/selection, via the imaginary second click, of the option where the pointer happens to be at that moment.


thanks tenochslb,

yes that's annoying! i'm not sure why it's doing that, i've tried some older JWM versions and they exhibit the same behavior.

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mavrothal


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PostPosted: Mon 11 Dec 2017, 17:23    Post subject:  

@don570 I think that is probably BK's relic code as Pyro's (and older versions of) probedisk does not accept any cli arguments. -m, -a, -b, or anything else gives the same result as nothing.
In contrast the probedisk in recent (6+) puppies does have several option and exits if an unknown option is provided.
Delete "-m" from the script code and it should be fine

@phil666 The dock applet right click behaviour appears to be xenial-specific.
Neither artfulpup not radky's stretchpup that have JWM2.3.7 have this behaviour. Compiling 2.3.7 or 2.4.0 (the latest) from source in Xenialpup does not change it either.
I personally prefer click-and-hold than double-click but I can see the annoyance.

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PostPosted: Mon 11 Dec 2017, 18:03    Post subject: Re: taskbar/traybar bug in the icons
Subject description: right click over the taskbar icons closes them, xenialpup, tahrpup
 

666philb wrote:
tenochslb wrote:
Puppy Linux Taskbar/Traybar Bug

There are several small but annoying bugs in the puppy’s taskbar, all of them are similar, a right tap/click on the savefile size icon, the temperature icon, the network indicator icon and the firewall icon is detected as a two tap/click event. It causes the execution/selection, via the imaginary second click, of the option where the pointer happens to be at that moment.


thanks tenochslb,

yes that's annoying! i'm not sure why it's doing that, i've tried some older JWM versions and they exhibit the same behavior.

I am not seeing this problem.
Xenialpup64 7.5 frugal install on USB hard drive.
Desktop computer.
I am being careful to only click one time.
Does seem to be a little hard to only click once, but not that hard.

In Rox filler>options>pinboard>pinboard behaviour
Is single-click to open checked or un-checked?

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musher0


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PostPosted: Mon 11 Dec 2017, 18:38    Post subject:  

Hello all.

I think this is our poor Puppy's way of saying:
"Enough jwm already! I can't take it anymore!" Twisted Evil

You would never have such a problem using the
icewm traybar, or bmpanel2 with another WM.

Sincere sympathies.

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artsown

Joined: 12 Sep 2012
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PostPosted: Mon 11 Dec 2017, 20:38    Post subject:  

Fatdog64 version 720 can create a google-chrome installation file that
works well on xenialpup64 version 7.5

On Fatdog, invoke Control Panel --- Updates --- Get Google Chrome.
This not only installs chrome but it leaves a installation file in /root that
can be moved out to a folder on a partition such as /mnt/home/chrome,
for example.

In xenialpup, Chrome runs (as spot) without any modifications. I have been
deleting any old chrome version first (via PPM), though I don't know if that's
necessary. Bookmarks and settings are preserved.

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Dec 2017, 15:03    Post subject: inform for updates  

I guess for those frequent the forum, may be "useless", but here is a pet that will periodically check (every day or every 2 hours) if there is a new Xenial{64} update and either download and install it or prompt you to do it through quickpet (user configurable).
The pet works in both Xenialpup and Xenialpup64

It may make more sense to be in the ISO rather than a pet that only seasoned users will ever see, presented an an option at the first quicksetup run (as suggested here), but that's a different story...
xenial_updates_info-1.pet
Description  Check periodically ibiblio for XenialPup updates
pet

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Filename  xenial_updates_info-1.pet 
Filesize  1.95 KB 
Downloaded  16 Time(s) 

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PostPosted: Tue 12 Dec 2017, 15:50    Post subject: pwidgets not work in xenial64 7.5 full installed
Subject description: pwidgets and xenial64 7.5
 

with xenial32 7.5 full instaled pwidgete work okWhat can i do?
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PostPosted: Wed 13 Dec 2017, 09:05    Post subject: Re: inform for updates  

mavrothal wrote:

It may make more sense to be in the ISO rather than a pet that only seasoned users will ever see, presented an an option at the first quicksetup run (as suggested here), but that's a different story...


Here is an updates version of the "provide info for updates" pet that separates BK's service packs updates from Phil's quickpet updates. If you have patch or devx installed will also modify quicksetup as shown in the picture (and thus work at build time Wink ). In the case you modify quicksetup you must activate/deactivate updates through quicksetup.
Otherwise (ie no patch/quicksetup modification) after installation you'll be asked for your updates info preference (on/off, install/inform, 2/24 hours).

Unistalling the pet sould clear everything and reverse the quicksetup patching.

Like the one above, is for both Xenial and Xenial64 puppies
updates_info_xenial-1.pet
Description 
pet

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Filename  updates_info_xenial-1.pet 
Filesize  3.23 KB 
Downloaded  12 Time(s) 
quick.jpg
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 Viewed   221 Time(s)

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PostPosted: Yesterday, at 17:55    Post subject:  

I’ve just this week downloaded Xenialpup64 7.5 and burnt it off to a CD-R, and so far so good; I don’t even have to set up the internet connection on this one as it connects to the internet automatically, just as Ubuntu and Mint do.
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