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Do I need to upgrade tahr? (Solved)
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number77

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Nov 2017, 09:35    Post subject:  Do I need to upgrade tahr? (Solved)  

Hello
I have tahr605 both 32 and 64 bit on a dell vostro 1320, 2.2ghz,2gb ram. They are dated about Dec 2015 and I wondered if they need upgrading to later versions. I am due to reinstall the 32 bit on my system and also install tahr on a friends system so would a later tahr download be a good idea.
Thanks
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Nov 2017, 10:17    Post subject:  

It is kind of a yes and no answer.
Tahrpup 6.0.5 was kind of a long term use version of Puppy.
It got really tested and bug fixed.

There is a Tahrpup 6.0.6 version.
But not much different than 6.0.5.
Just some tweaks to some files and programs, but not much.

For putting Puppy on other computers.
It is all about the hardware support.

Very new computers are going to need the newer Linux kernels and newer/newest hardware drivers.
Example:
My computer is very new.
Tahrpup6.0.5 runs OK on it, but I did have to add a driver for my network hardware.
Xenialpup 7.5 just had everything needed and runs great on it.

Xenialpup 7.5 is the next step in Ubuntu based Puppies.
It uses some of the newest Linux kernels and newest drivers.
However, the newer kernels and drivers only add to what hardware is supported and maybe fix bugs in older drivers.
But, it can stop supporting old hardware too.
However, it does support a lot of older computers.

Now, you may want to try Xenialpup 7.5
It is using the newest versions of some programs and files.
It probably does give better support to the very newest versions of web browsers.
Those web browsers seem to constantly change and want the latest in everything to work.

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number77

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Nov 2017, 14:08    Post subject:  

Thanks bigpup
I have xenial 7.04 on another pc and wouldnt change from tahr 605 for that so xenial 7.05 would need to be a lot better to make me change. I like tahr 605 and know it best, most questions from me to the forum are about tahr, so I will stick to it. If it ain't broke I won't fix it
Thanks for spending your time answering my question.
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s243a

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Nov 2017, 16:01    Post subject:  

I upgraded to Tharpup 6.0.6 because my ISP upgraded their gateway and some of my wireless USB dongles couldn't see the new gateway. However maybe they just didn't scan long enough. I don't know, I just thought it was time for an upgrade. Also one of them still could see it but couldn't connect to it. After the upgrade the problem was resolved.

P.S. We had a related problem with the WII. I don't know if my WII can see the gateway yet.
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Nov 2017, 16:05    Post subject:  

Trusty pup has a serious security flaw: its current glibc is vulnerable and needs to be updated. If I were you, I'd install these two packages to correct the problem:
libc-bin
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/libc-bin
libc6
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/libc6

Then, there is another issue - less severe one - audio is broken in all puppies, except maybe the very latest ones. User jist, was supposed to submit a patch to woof-ce, not sure if he did. Anyway, to be on the safe side, I'd also install the following packages:
libasound2
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libasound2
linux-sound-base
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/linux-sound-base
alsa-base
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/alsa-base
alsa-utils
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/alsa-utils
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PostPosted: Thu 30 Nov 2017, 16:21    Post subject:  

Thanks anikin !
Good Info Smile
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s243a

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PostPosted: Fri 01 Dec 2017, 00:39    Post subject:  

anikin wrote:
Trusty pup has a serious security flaw: its current glibc is vulnerable and needs to be updated. If I were you, I'd install these two packages to correct the problem:
libc-bin
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/libc-bin
libc6
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/libc6

Then, there is another issue - less severe one - audio is broken in all puppies, except maybe the very latest ones. User jist, was supposed to submit a patch to woof-ce, not sure if he did. Anyway, to be on the safe side, I'd also install the following packages:
libasound2
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libasound2
linux-sound-base
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/linux-sound-base
alsa-base
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/alsa-base
alsa-utils
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/alsa-utils


I believe that the glibc updates have been included in the 6.0.6 iso.
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Dec 2017, 02:08    Post subject:  

Trust but verify. Run this command to check to see if your glibc is up to date:
Code:
ldd --version
and compare the output to the glibc version of your Ubuntu/Debian release here:
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/libc6
or here:
https://packages.debian.org/stretch/libc6

I suspect not only trusty pup is screwed, but *all* the available pups are affected. BTW, glibc is not the only vulnerable component. Debian/Ubuntu are also constantly updating the kernel of their LTS (long term support) releases.
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Dec 2017, 14:23    Post subject:  

anikin wrote:
Trusty pup has a serious security flaw: its current glibc is vulnerable and needs to be updated. If I were you, I'd install these two packages to correct the problem:
libc-bin
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/libc-bin
libc6
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/libc6

Then, there is another issue - less severe one - audio is broken in all puppies, except maybe the very latest ones. User jist, was supposed to submit a patch to woof-ce, not sure if he did. Anyway, to be on the safe side, I'd also install the following packages:
libasound2
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libasound2
linux-sound-base
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/linux-sound-base
alsa-base
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/alsa-base
alsa-utils
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/alsa-utils

I am probably being slow here but what is trusty pup.
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Dec 2017, 14:36    Post subject:  

number77 wrote:
anikin wrote:
Trusty pup has a serious security flaw: its current glibc is vulnerable and needs to be updated. If I were you, I'd install these two packages to correct the problem:
libc-bin
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/libc-bin
libc6
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-updates/libc6

Then, there is another issue - less severe one - audio is broken in all puppies, except maybe the very latest ones. User jist, was supposed to submit a patch to woof-ce, not sure if he did. Anyway, to be on the safe side, I'd also install the following packages:
libasound2
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libasound2
linux-sound-base
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/linux-sound-base
alsa-base
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/alsa-base
alsa-utils
https://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/alsa-utils

I am probably being slow here but what is trusty pup.


I believe tahrpup is based on Ubuntu Trusty.
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Dec 2017, 14:55    Post subject:  

Thanks 243a.
My 605 has ldd (Ubuntu EGLIBC 2.19-0ubuntu6.6) 2.19 so that seems up to date. I will give 606 a try anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Dec 2017, 15:37    Post subject:  

number77 wrote:
Thanks 243a.
My 605 has ldd (Ubuntu EGLIBC 2.19-0ubuntu6.6) 2.19 so that seems up to date. I will give 606 a try anyway.

Your glibc version is 2.19-0ubuntu6.6 - released on Wed, 25 Feb 2015. Definitely NOT up to date.

The current, Ubuntu Trusty Tahr version is 2.19-0ubuntu6.13 - released on Fri, 16 Jun 2017. This one IS.
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Dec 2017, 15:56    Post subject:  

anikin wrote:
number77 wrote:
Thanks 243a.
My 605 has ldd (Ubuntu EGLIBC 2.19-0ubuntu6.6) 2.19 so that seems up to date. I will give 606 a try anyway.

Your glibc version is 2.19-0ubuntu6.6 - released on Wed, 25 Feb 2015. Definitely NOT up to date.

The current, Ubuntu Trusty Tahr version is 2.19-0ubuntu6.13 - released on Fri, 16 Jun 2017. This one IS.


There is an option in Tahrpup 6.0.5 to check for updates. One of the updates provided through this facility is a glibc update. I'm not sure if number77 did this but I can provide instructions when I get home.
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PostPosted: Fri 01 Dec 2017, 16:13    Post subject:  

s243a wrote:
anikin wrote:
number77 wrote:
Thanks 243a.
My 605 has ldd (Ubuntu EGLIBC 2.19-0ubuntu6.6) 2.19 so that seems up to date. I will give 606 a try anyway.

Your glibc version is 2.19-0ubuntu6.6 - released on Wed, 25 Feb 2015. Definitely NOT up to date.

The current, Ubuntu Trusty Tahr version is 2.19-0ubuntu6.13 - released on Fri, 16 Jun 2017. This one IS.


There is an option in Tahrpup 6.0.5 to check for updates. One of the updates provided through this facility is a glibc update. I'm not sure if number77 did this but I can provide instructions when I get home.

Yes please
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PostPosted: Sun 10 Dec 2017, 03:22    Post subject:  

number77 wrote:
s243a wrote:
anikin wrote:
number77 wrote:
Thanks 243a.
My 605 has ldd (Ubuntu EGLIBC 2.19-0ubuntu6.6) 2.19 so that seems up to date. I will give 606 a try anyway.

Your glibc version is 2.19-0ubuntu6.6 - released on Wed, 25 Feb 2015. Definitely NOT up to date.

The current, Ubuntu Trusty Tahr version is 2.19-0ubuntu6.13 - released on Fri, 16 Jun 2017. This one IS.


There is an option in Tahrpup 6.0.5 to check for updates. One of the updates provided through this facility is a glibc update. I'm not sure if number77 did this but I can provide instructions when I get home.

Yes please


Under Menu/setup/tahr updates

I believe there is an option to update glibc if you are using tharpup 6.0.5
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