Problem doing full install of Slacko 6.9.9.9

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Problem doing full install of Slacko 6.9.9.9

#1 Post by LeithR »

I set out to update Slacko6.3.0 on a Sony Vaio laptop to Slacko 6.9.9.9. I had expected that the laptop would notice that I was upgrading as this had happened on another machine. However, everything seemed to go as expected and I carried out a full installation of 6.9.9.9. When I switched the machine on again I noted in the GRUB4dos screen that there were entries for both 6.3.0 and 6.9.9.9. When I selected 6.9.9.9 it started to load as normal then failed with a number of error messages.

At this point I decided to re-partition the HD, this operation went well so I reloaded the full version of 6.9.9.9 sda1. I'm now getting this response on screen, not sure what its telling me.

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Would this have something to do with having details of the earlier installation of 6.9.9.9 in the MBR? Before each installation of 6.9.9.9 I have repartitioned the HD I thought to ensure that my previous installation was overwritten.

Where to next?

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#2 Post by LeithR »

Sorry the image didn't come out, what I'm seeing on screen is
4: ONE_PART=sda1
4: ONE_PART=sda3
4: ONE_PART=sda4
6: ONE_PART=sda4 ONE_TRY_FN=/PUPPY_SLACKO_6.9.9.9.sfs PDRV=
Dumping last lines of kernel log...
EXT4-fs (sda4): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
EXT4-fs (sda1): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
EXT4-fs (sda3): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
EXT4-fs (sda4): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)
*** sda4 /puppy_slacko_6.9.9.9.sfs not found
*** Error is too critical, dropping out to console
*** To save debug info to a partition, type 'debugsave'
/#

Hope this helps.
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#3 Post by rcrsn51 »

If this truly is a full install, the boot sequence shouldn't be looking for an sfs file.

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#4 Post by LeithR »

The HD is partitioned as follows
sda1 68.36G ext4 flagged as boot
sda2 linux-swap 1.95G
sda3 195.31G ext4
sda4 200.14G ext4

The full implementation was carried out on sda1.

I too do not understand why its looking for the .sfs file.

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#5 Post by rcrsn51 »

Then you need to look at your GRUB menu.lst.

Does it have an entry for a full install or frugal?

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#6 Post by bigpup »

Hope you are trying to use Grub4dos boot loader.
You did run Grub4dos bootloader config, after the install, to setup the boot loader for the new install?

I know ext 4 is suppose to be newer and better for a format.
I am not so sure, when changing the format, has fixed the issues.
I suggest using ext 3 format.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
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#7 Post by LeithR »

Where will I find menu.lst please?

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#8 Post by LeithR »

I'm relooking at this problem from a diferent perspective. I've just removed the HD and reformatted on another linux machine then re-inserted the HD back into the Sony machine. I've installed 6.9.9.9 again and requested GRUB4dos. I've now got the file open and I find that I have 2 entries (lines 9 - 12 & lines 14 - 17) saying the same thing.

title Slacko Puppy 6.9.9.9 (sda1/boot
uuid 125ebf9e- lef4- 40cd- 9586- 00b5ed0e4fe5
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro
initrd /boot/initrd.gz

Is this correct?

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#9 Post by rcrsn51 »

A traditional full install does NOT have the line "initrd /boot/initrd.gz".

But I am not going to second-guess Slacko or Grub4Dos on this.

This would be far simpler if you did a frugal install with a save folder.

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Do A Frugal Install

#10 Post by mikeslr »

Just following up on bigpup's suggestion. If you want to know why look here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 170#973170. Skip down to this paragraph:

"But the biggest part of the problem, the fourth part, is that unlike almost every other operating system -- Windows, Macs, Linuxes -- Puppy is NOT designed to be run as a FULL INSTALL. It was not designed to require an entire Partition. The ability to run it as a FULL install was developed in order to speed-up its operation if you are deploying it on a computer with 256 Mbs of RAM or less."

and read the next couple of paragraphs. Including "There is nothing you can do with a Full install that you can't also do with a Frugal Install. And there are a great many things which a Frugal install can do which a Full install can't."

The part of the post after those paragraphs explains how to go from a working Full install to a working Frugal Install.

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#11 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

I'll try a full install of Slacko 6.9.9.9 when I get home, I'm curious what my menu.lst will look like compared to yours. I don't remember my uuid having spaces in it, or maybe I just used root (hd0,0). The last time I tried full install with woof-CE it worked and the non-fatal warnings I originally had were fixed.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=255

The menu.lst example by jlst on the previous page (17) doesn't have the initrd line either though like rcrsn51 mentioned.

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#12 Post by LeithR »

rcrsn51 wrote:A traditional full install does NOT have the line "initrd /boot/initrd.gz".

But I am not going to second-guess Slacko or Grub4Dos on this.

This would be far simpler if you did a frugal install with a save folder.
Thanks I'll try that tomorrow.

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#13 Post by Sailor Enceladus »

Ok, it worked. I booted into a frugal Slacko 6.9.9.9, made a new partition on hard drive with GParted as ext4 that was 23GB, sda4, then clicked on the Install icon on desktop, selected Universal Installer -> Internal Hard Drive -> sda -> selected sda4 -> picked Directory -> chose my vmlinuz (I think) and picked Full install, then it extracted all the files, the zdrv, adrv and fdv, then it asked if I wanted a initrd.gz RAM drive to start for sanity, I selected Yes, and I added the line it gave me into my menu.lst:

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title Puppy Linux - Slacko Puppy 6.9.9.9 full install in sda4
#root (hd0,0) <-- GRUB legacy, ex: (hd1,0)
uuid 7c0d7b9d-71ea-4307-bd5b-8ffda9126624
kernel /boot/vmlinuz fullinstall root=UUID=7c0d7b9d-71ea-4307-bd5b-8ffda9126624 pmedia=atahd 
#                                root=/dev/sda4
initrd /boot/initrd.gz
And it booted (with the initrd.gz option selected). Attached is a screenshot of my working sda4 (slacko 6.9.9.9 full install).
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Fixed - Problem doing full install of Slacko 6.9.9.9

#14 Post by LeithR »

Thanks all for your assistance,

Taking rcrsn51's advice I did a frugal install and all now working as it should.

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