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chillinfart
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#1721 Post by chillinfart »

thinkpadfreak wrote:torm wrote:
> What driver (and where) should I look for this graphics card:
> ATI Radeon 9250/9200, AGP, 128MB, VGA + S-VHS
> xorgwizard will not give usable picture.

I am afraid that AGP based graphics cards do not work well with Tahrpup, due to KMS(kernel mode setting) which is a default on Tahrpup.

So, I still use Puppy 4 series and Lupu 528 on ThinkPad T42, whose video card is ATI Radeon Mobility 7500.
Configure xorg.conf manually.

You should have this at Device section, grabbed from my Thinkpad T42 conf. Options added are for use with KMS, open source radeon driver is built-in with tahrpup

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Section "Device"
Identifier "Card0"
Driver	"ati"
	Option	"AccelMethod"		"exa"
	Option	"ColorTiling"		"on"
	Option	"EnablePageFlip"	"on"
	Option	"SwapBuffersWait"	"off"
	Option	"TearFree"			"off"
	
EndSection



However, Mesalib 10.x has some issues with Opera, fixed in version 11.x and later. I hope someone make a last upgrade for Tahrpup, Mesalib at that versions is hard to compile

redandwhitestripes
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Re: Chromium-based browser

#1722 Post by redandwhitestripes »

sheldonisaac wrote:
redandwhitestripes wrote:Using 32bit Tahr on my HP laptop, *any* chromium-based browser crashes the system. Be it Slimjet, Chrome or Chromium
Greg, I'm using the Iron browser 58.0.3050.0 with tahrpup 6.0.6 on this Dell Latitude E6410
This worked, thank you SO much! I have no idea why the others crash but now I can stream my music at work so I'm happy!

thinkpadfreak
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#1723 Post by thinkpadfreak »

chillinfart wrote:
> Configure xorg.conf manually.

Thank you for advice.

I am afraid that under KMS, most of the optional settings are ignored.
I tried to set "GARTSize" "32", only to fail.
Moreover, under KMS, VRAM is limited to about 26MB though my T42 has 32MB.

I rewrote /etc/modprobe.d/radeon.conf to disable KMS, but X failed to start.

On Precise 571, ati driver (no KMS) can be selected through xorgwizard, but GLX is disabled by default under "no KMS."

Since neither Precise nor Tahrpup is satisfactory, I mainly use Lupu 528.

EDIT: I think that the newer Puppies (more precisely the newer kernels) do not fit old computers, so it can't be helped. ThinkPad T42 is more than 12 years old.

Bird Dog
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Tahrpup64 6..0.5 CE

#1724 Post by Bird Dog »

This message is for Torm at the top of page 115. I have been using Tahrpup 6.0.5 and Tahrpup 6.0.6 frugally installed with a save folder in a P4 3.0 ghz cpu with an AGP 8X 4X ATI All in wonder 9600 64 mb ddr with 1 gb of ram and a 2 gb swap file and a 17 inch lcd monitor. I have been using this for the last year or so just the way it installed from the iso cd with no changes and have had zero problems with Palemoon or anything else so far.
PS The television still works using XP also.

Thanks
Bird Dog
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augras
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#1725 Post by augras »

Hi,
I have posted this message in the bugs part but no reponses.
So i try here : i can't thing i m the only one to have this problem.
I'm with tarhpup 6.0.5 and all quickpet updates made.

I get a problem when i want to print with a recent firefox, glabels and thunderbird, all gtk3 applications : when i want to print the software closes.
I get this error in the terminal
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symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gtk-3.0/3.0.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-cups.so: undefined symbol: ippSetOperation

It seems there is a compatibility problem between cups and gtk3.
Cups is in 1.5.3 version.
Thanks for your help,
Philippe

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#1726 Post by watchdog »

augras wrote: I'm with tarhpup 6.0.5 and all quickpet updates made.

I get a problem when i want to print with a recent firefox, glabels and thunderbird, all gtk3 applications : when i want to print the software closes.
I get this error in the terminal
Code:
symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/gtk-3.0/3.0.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-cups.so: undefined symbol: ippSetOperation

It seems there is a compatibility problem between cups and gtk3.
Cups is in 1.5.3 version.
Try to upgrade to tahr 6.0.6 Cups 1.7.5. No problems here printing from firefox 56.0.1.

augras
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#1727 Post by augras »

Thank you watchdog,
i will try 6.0.6.
Philippe

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#1728 Post by augras »

It works fine on 6.0.6.
Thank you for the idea.
Is it possible to update 6.0.5 to 6.0.6 ?
I have a lot of software and my pupsave folder is around 2Go, so if it is possible to update it will be a very good thing.
Philippe

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bigpup
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#1729 Post by bigpup »

Should be able to use the 6.0.5 tahrsave with the 6.0.6 install.
Just copy the save to the 6.0.6 install.
When you boot 6.0.6 it should update the save.

If you already made a save for 6.0.6, replace it with the one from 6.0.5
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
YaPI(any iso installer)

augras
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#1730 Post by augras »

Hi,
Thanks bigpup,
It doesn't work very well : it's slow and some softwares don't work at all.
I will begin with a new one and maybe try xenialpup.
Philippe

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bigpup
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#1731 Post by bigpup »

Could you give more details?
This should not be happening.
What programs do not work?
Slow how?
Both versions are installed on the same type formatted partition?
Did not have one on say fat32 and one on ext3?
Was the save a file or a folder?

Sorry but I have to ask.
32 bit Tahrpup 6.0.5 to 32 bit 6.0.6?
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
YaPI(any iso installer)

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darkstrike
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#1732 Post by darkstrike »

Hi all! I've not checked in for a long time as Linux Mint is my main distro nowadays, but I've always had a soft spot for Puppy as it's where I first dove in when I started tinkering with Linux. :)

Just curious if anybody knows whether there is a later (the current LTS 16.04 maybe?) Ubuntu-based Puplet in development somewhere...?

Cheers! :D


EDIT - Ignore the above, just found XenialPip....going to give it a whirl! :)
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newpet
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#1733 Post by newpet »

Hi.

I can't launch Palemoon with 'spot'. I get several error messages.
I have not problems with opera or iron.
Any clue/help?

Thanks
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watchdog
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#1734 Post by watchdog »

Developers wrote a script "run-as-spot" to launch any app as spot. I do not remember if included in tahr. Open pfind and search for it. You can copy it from other recent puppies in the same path. Then in console:

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run-as-spot palemoon
If you want to use your .moonchild productions profile in root copy it in /root/spot and in console:

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chown -R spot /root/spot
LATER: run-as-spot is included in tahr 6.0.6 and it works.
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elypter
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#1735 Post by elypter »

is there a 6.0.6 iso without uefi, 64bit or pae?

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#1736 Post by sheldonisaac »

elypter wrote:is there a 6.0.6 iso without uefi, 64bit or pae?
http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/di ... 6-uefi.iso

Here's all you need from that:

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-rw-r--r--  1 root root   1525211 Feb 15  2017 initrd.gz
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 209301504 Feb 15  2017 puppy_tahr_6.0.6.sfs
-rwxr-xr-x  1 root root   4871472 Dec 13  2016 vmlinuz
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  34152448 Feb 15  2017 zdrv_tahr_6.0.6.sfs
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newpet
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#1737 Post by newpet »

Thank you, Watchdog.

I'm able to run palemoon by 'run-as-spot' [run-as-spot defaultbrowser].
Also, I moved the palemoon profile folder inside 'spot' folder. It seems to work, the terminal windows needs to be left open though.

However, I'm not sure about browser segregation, since I can still open/save files everywhere from the browser itself.
Consistently, I couldn't, am I wrong?

Thanks.

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#1738 Post by watchdog »

newpet wrote:Thank you, Watchdog.

I'm able to run palemoon by 'run-as-spot' [run-as-spot defaultbrowser].
Also, I moved the palemoon profile folder inside 'spot' folder. It seems to work, the terminal windows needs to be left open though.
If you are going to use spot user for browsing everything I suggest to edit /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser inserting the run-as-spot there.
However, I'm not sure about browser segregation, since I can still open/save files everywhere from the browser itself.
Consistently, I couldn't, am I wrong?
What you open/save after using run-as-spot have user spot and another user can't open them. Root can always access your files. Are you saying that you can open files having user root after using run-as-spot? That would be odd!

newpet
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#1739 Post by newpet »

Thanks for helping watchdog.

I moved 'run-as-spot' to /usr/local/bin/defaultbrowser, as you suggested (brief explaination?)

When spot, I can't save/modify any file outside spot folder, as expected.

I can always open/read all my files regardless their location from 'open file' in palemoon though. Correct?

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#1740 Post by watchdog »

newpet wrote: I can always open/read all my files regardless their location from 'open file' in palemoon though. Correct?
Yes, it's correct. I presume you open files in palemoon running as spot after you saved them by the same palemoon: they have user spot. Try to open a file in palemoon running as spot after saving it in standard palemoon running as root. You could not open it. I suggest to you to collect al files you download in palemoon running as spot in a single folder: if you look the Properties of these files then you see they have all user spot. You can change the ownership to root in console:

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chown root /path-to/file
or recursively:

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chown -R root /path-to/Downloads

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