Puppy Linux Discussion Forum Forum Index Puppy Linux Discussion Forum
Puppy HOME page : puppylinux.com
"THE" alternative forum : puppylinux.info
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

The time now is Mon 11 Nov 2019, 16:57
All times are UTC - 4
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Additional Software (PETs, n' stuff) » Browsers and Internet
(Far faster) Firefox 55 due in August
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
Page 2 of 2 [23 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2
Author Message
Moose On The Loose


Joined: 24 Feb 2011
Posts: 818

PostPosted: Sun 20 Aug 2017, 11:13    Post subject:  

musher0 wrote:
"Superior, they said,
Never gives up her dead
When the gales of November
come early."

That ship was the Edmund Fitzgerald, a laker, not the Titanic.
And the title of the song is "The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald".


I had taken the "she may have dove deep and took water" line as being like the bronco would sink. If the hatches are not fully secured on a ore carrier, the bow going under water can lead to a quite sudden sinking. Water goes into the hold via the forward hatch and the bow suddenly gets a lot heavier.

It appears that this is not what happened. Long after the song was written the wreck was found. It appears that the waves were so tall that the bottom of the ship hit a big tall rock.

I still maintain that nobody is going to make a movie or a song about the sinking of the bronco.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
perdido


Joined: 09 Dec 2013
Posts: 1394
Location: ¿Altair IV , Just north of Eeyore Junction.?

PostPosted: Sun 20 Aug 2017, 11:47    Post subject:  

Moose On The Loose wrote:

It appears that this is not what happened. Long after the song was written the wreck was found. It appears that the waves were so tall that the bottom of the ship hit a big tall rock.

I still maintain that nobody is going to make a movie or a song about the sinking of the bronco.


Hmm, the going story used to be that seperate big waves hit both the bow and stern at nearly the same time,
the middle of the ore-laden ship collapsing in the middle due to no support and it broke in half.

Anyways, there is a tribute video using Gordon Lightfoots song on youtube somewhere. At least used to be...
Found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgI8bta-7aw

Firefox big heavy and cumbersome, like the Edmond Fitzgerald.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
prehistoric


Joined: 23 Oct 2007
Posts: 1747

PostPosted: Sun 20 Aug 2017, 20:45    Post subject:  

Just to keep this slightly on-topic, I am posting from Firefox 55.0.2 on Fatdog 710.

I am less convinced that the Edmond Fitzgerald hit a rock due to wave action than others. Even huge waves don't often make that much vertical difference in ships long enough to span several waves. The EF was about 800 feet long.

I favor the theory of structural failure after flooding. You can check the substantial difference between the depth loaded and in ballast on photographs. Waves of 35 feet, as reported at the time, would reach the deck when EF was loaded. The stern is detached on the bottom, suggesting flooding near the stern just prior to sinking. It would have been difficult for the bridge crew to see this in bad weather.

The EF was a bulk ore carrier with a heavy load, and this class of shipping has an awful record in waters so deep you never have to worry about hitting rocks while afloat. Here's a case that lingers with anyone who has studied it. I have seen a long video about the loss during typhoon Orchid, and the search for an explanation, but can only find short clips at the moment.

They actually found that wreck under about 3 km. of water. (There is some bad information on the web. I'm still trying to figure out how anyone can describe a ship that sank between Canada and Japan as sinking in the South China Sea. Another proof there is no such thing as unutterable nonsense.)

Detailed analysis showed that the forward compartments did not collapse when it sank, showing they were already filled with water. Other evidence showed the forward ventilators were torn off before the ship sank. The crew could not see what was happening because this was nearly 1,000 ft/300 m. from the bridge during a serious typhoon. Flooding that compartment was enough to cause the ship to dive under a wave and never come up.

A very similar bulk carrier was lost in the south Atlantic last year.

I don't know about the seaworthiness of Broncos, but I had a VW beetle that floated on a flooded street -- while I was driving it.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
charlie6


Joined: 30 Jun 2008
Posts: 1221
Location: Saint-Gérard / Walloon part of Belgium

PostPosted: Thu 31 Aug 2017, 01:22    Post subject: cannot open url from command line  

Hi,
Here running a fresh install of FF 55.0.3 on Tahrpup-6.0.6 32 bits (just installed and go).

as an example, doing in terminal
Code:
root# firefox http://www.gcad3d.org
root#
as also
Code:
root# firefox www.gcad3d.org
root#

only open the FF start page.
There is no error message nor comment.

It worked though on earlier FF versions.
I browsed the web as also this forum without finding relevant to this.

I also tried
Code:
root# firefox -new-tab http://www.gcad3d.org
root#
which also opens a FF star page.

Thanks for any advice.
Charlie
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Sailor Enceladus

Joined: 22 Feb 2016
Posts: 1565

PostPosted: Sat 16 Sep 2017, 14:56    Post subject:  

Tried the FF55 on Mozilla site in Slacko 6.9.9.9 and installed gtk3 and pulseaudio. Contrary to the title of this thread, it was not "far faster" at all, I think it was actually slower than the included FF52 ESR overall. Can't say I'm surprised. Maybe they meant "faster on the latest hardware", I'm still running a single-core Pentium M CPU, or perhaps it was all just marketing fluff.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
labbe5

Joined: 13 Nov 2013
Posts: 2042
Location: Canada

PostPosted: Mon 25 Sep 2017, 14:54    Post subject: change of mind after 10 + years of using Firefox
Subject description: looking for a replacement
 

I find Firefox not satisfying anymore. For me, looking for another browser is a major change of mind.

Opera 45 seems a good candidate, with a built-in VPN, instead of using some third-party VPN app. A deb file is available on Opera website. At installation time, we are given the choice to upgrade package when a new Opera is available. More goodies to discover.

Palemoon seems a good candidate too, but being based on Firefox, it is not a first choice. It has a very good Linux installer.

I need to find a RSS Feed reader to replace the built-in RSS feed reader of Firefox, but there are plenty of them for Linux.

Chrome, being closely linked to Google, is my last choice.

Chromium, while open source, which is good, does not make it a good choice, i have had problems using it in the past with Puppy and Dog, not even launching sometimes, and is unusable as root. But it has a security feature similar to firejail.

I definitely will go for Opera. I will give it a try. It seems the best of all.

I feel sorry for Firefox, but developement is out of whack. Sometimes i do not have sound (it needs pulseaudio). In the near future, all addons will be deprecated, and what else?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Moat


Joined: 16 Jul 2013
Posts: 967
Location: Mid-mitten

PostPosted: Tue 26 Sep 2017, 04:20    Post subject: Re: change of mind after 10 + years of using Firefox
Subject description: looking for a replacement
 

labbe5 wrote:
I feel sorry for Firefox, but developement is out of whack.

Amen. Breaks my heart. Sad Have you tried (Chromium based) Vivaldi? Pretty acceptable alternative - on my Win7 machine, anyways. No extensive testing, though.

Bob
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
spiritwild


Joined: 03 Oct 2016
Posts: 177

PostPosted: Tue 26 Sep 2017, 20:39    Post subject:  

I agree. No faster to me either. I still have it installed but have switched to iron. It seems to be way more responsive on my system.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message 
Display posts from previous:   Sort by:   
Page 2 of 2 [23 Posts]   Goto page: Previous 1, 2
Post new topic   Reply to topic View previous topic :: View next topic
 Forum index » Advanced Topics » Additional Software (PETs, n' stuff) » Browsers and Internet
Jump to:  

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You cannot attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum


Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group
[ Time: 0.0647s ][ Queries: 12 (0.0194s) ][ GZIP on ]