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lvds


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Feb 2007, 02:43    Post subject:  

Hello,

...I understand. And can you give any clue for removing web browser opera ? Mine users have need for some firefox extensions and they won't be able to work with opera. So i think even if it does fill a little bit more the memory size we have to change the web browser.

Are there "external" files to remove or is it just removing the Opera directory enough ?

Best regards,
Laurent.
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pakt


Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Sun 11 Feb 2007, 03:08    Post subject:  

lvds wrote:
And can you give any clue for removing web browser opera ?

Huh? Are you sure you are using BarelyPup? Barelypup doesn't contain any browser, not even Dillo.

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lvds


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Feb 2007, 03:28    Post subject:  

pakt wrote:
Huh? Are you sure you are using BarelyPup? Barelypup doesn't contain any browser, not even Dillo.


yes, sorry Embarassed it's early morning here and i was thinking/working on eBox distro. excuse me. It is because it is such a work to correctly remove un-needed software...

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freke

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Feb 2007, 03:45    Post subject:  

I am still enjoying using puppy and am still learning. I have loaded barelypup on both cd and dvd but I cannot get it to save, I have tried all my (limited) methods but they do not work. I can only get by with the aid of the forum.

Ted aka thicko
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pakt


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Feb 2007, 05:06    Post subject:  

lvds wrote:
It is because it is such a work to correctly remove un-needed software...

Exactly why I created BarelyPup. Perhaps you should use that instead Wink

Paul

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Feb 2007, 05:10    Post subject:  

freke wrote:
I am still enjoying using puppy and am still learning. I have loaded barelypup on both cd and dvd but I cannot get it to save, I have tried all my (limited) methods but they do not work. I can only get by with the aid of the forum.

Ted, please explain what you mean by "save". Do you mean you cannot create a pup_save.3fs file?

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rob2306

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Feb 2007, 08:00    Post subject: Barely Pup
Subject description: Grub
 

I don't know if this is just something I did wrong or if there is something wrong with the script that loads grub for Barely Pup, but when I tried to install to my HD, the process of installing grub to MBR didn't finish/work - just closed the dialogue box. I eventually used the puppy 2.13 live cd and installed grub from the control panel menu -grub config (the grub folder had been created on the HD, but was empty). I was then able to re-boot into Barely Pup.

But hey, it's excellent work and great fun! Smile

Thanks Paul.
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pakt


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Feb 2007, 11:05    Post subject: Re: Barely Pup
Subject description: Grub
 

rob2306 wrote:
I don't know if this is just something I did wrong or if there is something wrong with the script that loads grub for Barely Pup, but when I tried to install to my HD, the process of installing grub to MBR didn't finish/work - just closed the dialogue box.

Glad your enjoying BarelyPup Smile and nope, you didn't do anything wrong - I left out the 'grub-0.97' package in BarelyPup 0.1. I've already added it to 0.2 which is in the works. The main change will be the addition of dialup networking.

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freke

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PostPosted: Sun 11 Feb 2007, 11:19    Post subject:  

Yes whenever I make a cd or dvd as I do with all other iso, when I try to save I get the message something like (growsoft line 180 missing tme to upgrade to a dvd)
I am still learning.

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jam


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Feb 2007, 13:27    Post subject: Pup Naming  

Great job with this version. I had used Murga's latest "Mean Puppy" as my base but I'm going to try this one instead to build on. Another name I would suggest is BasePup, but BarelyPup is fine with me. There are so many flavors that at some point it's quite a project to track the various versions. These are the ones that come to mind:

- Puppy Linux 1.xx and 2.xx variants
- Hacao LInux
- PizzaPupst
- PuppyLite
- Mean Puppy
- Very Mean Puppy
- Muppy
- Puppy Professional
- Xpuppy Pro
- eBoxPup
- Lan Puppy
- Micro Puppy
- Grafpup
- PuppyCE
- LitePup

...and now BarelyPup. That's quite a list!

I'm sure I missed some on this list too. Smile

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pakt


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PostPosted: Mon 12 Feb 2007, 14:07    Post subject: Re: Pup Naming  

jam wrote:
I had used Murga's latest "Mean Puppy" as my base but I'm going to try this one instead to build on. Another name I would suggest is BasePup, but BarelyPup is fine with me. There are so many flavors that at some point it's quite a project to track the various versions.

Yes, 'BasePup' is not bad, but a bit of fun never hurts Wink

One thing to keep in mind is that not all of these Puppy variants are based on the same version of Puppy. In fact this is what I see as being the biggest problem - not everyone making a Puppy variant includes the original Puppy version it's based on in the name. That would make selection much easier - most people would choose one based on a recent Puppy version. Then there is also the problem of naming a variant the same as an existing one but made by someone else... Rolling Eyes

BTW, I'm going to add a list of packages that I used to the first post. BarelyPup is not really meant to run 'as is' since many packages have been left out, e.g. dialup networking. A list of packages will make it easier to decide what to add.

Paul

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Feb 2007, 14:37    Post subject:  

Ok, I've added a list of the packages in BarelyPup to the first post.
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Feb 2007, 14:49    Post subject:  

freke wrote:
Yes whenever I make a cd or dvd as I do with all other iso, when I try to save I get the message something like (growsoft line 180 missing tme to upgrade to a dvd)
I am still learning.

Ok, the problem is that the CD/DVD burning packages are not included in BarelyPup. This was done in order to keep BarelyPup as small as possible. Not everyone needs the burning tools. You can make an iso file with BarelyPup, but you'll need to run Puppy to burn the iso image to a disc. The alternative is to use pupget to install the packages needed for CD/DVD burning.

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PostPosted: Tue 13 Feb 2007, 14:21    Post subject:  

Thanks for the exlanation Paul,
I have saved it to my usb, and I am quite happy with that, but is there a way to transfer the save from the usb to my cd or dvd.

Ted javascript:emoticon('Wink')
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PostPosted: Tue 13 Feb 2007, 14:50    Post subject:  

freke wrote:
I have saved it to my usb, and I am quite happy with that, but is there a way to transfer the save from the usb to my cd or dvd.

Ted, if you've got the iso file saved on a USB stick, just boot your PC with a 'normal' Puppy (like 2.13). Then just mount the USB stick with MUT and point the burner program to the file on the USB stick. The directory should be /mnt/sda1/

Hope that helps Wink

Paul

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