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wiak

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Jul 2017, 17:51    Post subject:  

You seem to be 'a touch' pompous, but never mind. EDIT: Come to think of it, your choice of using a pompous-looking bust of Shakespeare tends to suggest your own image of yourself (not only the Stratford connection). I imagine you look nothing like that of course but: Good luck.
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dancytron

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Jul 2017, 17:51    Post subject:  

mikeslr wrote:
Hi rcrsn51,

I'm happy that you've taken an interest in "The Debian Dogs". I'm sure they will benefit from the experience and technical expertise you brought and applied to Puppies.

But I suspect that as mere 'passengers', such as myself, have a learning curve figuring out how to best make use of the tools included in 'the Dogs', there may be some adjustments for those who can create applications.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, 'the Dogs' don't have devxs. Rather, I think, using either apt or synaptic, you'd have to install the same applications that you would install if you were trying to create under a "Full Install" Ubuntu or debian; or use the Apt2SFS tool to create an SFS of those applications rather than install them.

mikesLr


There was some discussion (I'm not finding it to link to) of not having the devx anymore because if you have one, then you've got to keep it up to date. So, instead of having a devx, just use apt2sfs to create one or just install the stuff that you need.

Maybe Fred will chime in with a list of the programs that he would have put in a devx if he would have created one and everyone can just create their own?
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fredx181


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PostPosted: Thu 27 Jul 2017, 17:56    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
Was there ever a devx posted for DD-Stretch?


Not for the DD-Stretch version posted earlier in this thread.
Not 100% sure, but the devx posted for Trinitydog-Stretch should work, since it's also Stretch based..
https://github.com/DebianDog/trinitydog/releases/download/v2.0/61-DEVX-Stretch-2017-07-18.squashfs

mikeslr wrote:
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I know, 'the Dogs' don't have devxs.


That's not right, the past years always a devx was posted along with any Debiandog or Xenialdog ISO.

EDIT: @rcrsn51
From your isobooter example in the Trintydog thread I see "DebianDog-Stretch-openbox_xfce-jwm-2016-11-14.iso".
It's from here:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=931862#931862
And there's also a link for DEVX.
But I wouldn't recommend that ISO, it's preview for testing and at that time not yet from the 'Stable' branch yet.

Latest Stretch ISO i shared here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=959770#959770

Fred
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Thu 27 Jul 2017, 18:35    Post subject:  

fredx181 wrote:
Not for the DD-Stretch version posted earlier in this thread.

Thanks. I was looking for it because I wanted the kernel headers, like in the TD-Stretch devx.

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anikin

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Jul 2017, 11:28    Post subject:  

rcrsn51,

In Debian you need this for compiling: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/build-essential not devx.
Code:
root@debian:/# apt-get install build-essential
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  binutils bzip2 cpp cpp-6 dpkg-dev g++ g++-6 gcc gcc-6 gcc-6-base libasan3
  libatomic1 libc-dev-bin libc6-dev libcc1-0 libcilkrts5 libdpkg-perl
  libgcc-6-dev libgdbm3 libgomp1 libisl15 libitm1 libmpc3 libmpfr4 libmpx2
  libperl5.24 libquadmath0 libstdc++-6-dev libubsan0 linux-libc-dev make patch
  perl perl-modules-5.24 xz-utils
Suggested packages:
  binutils-doc bzip2-doc cpp-doc gcc-6-locales debian-keyring g++-multilib
  g++-6-multilib gcc-6-doc libstdc++6-6-dbg gcc-multilib manpages-dev autoconf
  automake libtool flex bison gdb gcc-doc gcc-6-multilib libgcc1-dbg
  libgomp1-dbg libitm1-dbg libatomic1-dbg libasan3-dbg liblsan0-dbg
  libtsan0-dbg libubsan0-dbg libcilkrts5-dbg libmpx2-dbg libquadmath0-dbg
  glibc-doc gnupg | gnupg2 libstdc++-6-doc make-doc ed diffutils-doc perl-doc
  libterm-readline-gnu-perl | libterm-readline-perl-perl
Recommended packages:
  fakeroot gnupg | gnupg2 libalgorithm-merge-perl manpages manpages-dev
  libfile-fcntllock-perl liblocale-gettext-perl netbase rename
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  binutils build-essential bzip2 cpp cpp-6 dpkg-dev g++ g++-6 gcc gcc-6
  gcc-6-base libasan3 libatomic1 libc-dev-bin libc6-dev libcc1-0 libcilkrts5
  libdpkg-perl libgcc-6-dev libgdbm3 libgomp1 libisl15 libitm1 libmpc3
  libmpfr4 libmpx2 libperl5.24 libquadmath0 libstdc++-6-dev libubsan0
  linux-libc-dev make patch perl perl-modules-5.24 xz-utils
0 upgraded, 36 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 40.2 MB of archives.
After this operation, 177 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n]
As for the kernel headers, have a look here: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/kernel/ and choose whatever is needed for the job, like this package, for example: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/kernel/linux-headers-4.9.0-3-686
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Fri 28 Jul 2017, 11:52    Post subject:  

anikin wrote:
rcrsn51,In Debian you need this for compiling: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/build-essential not devx.

What's wrong with using a ready-made devx SFS that I can load when needed?
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belham2

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Jul 2017, 12:23    Post subject:  

rcrsn51 wrote:
anikin wrote:
rcrsn51,In Debian you need this for compiling: https://packages.debian.org/stretch/build-essential not devx.

What's wrong with using a ready-made devx SFS that I can load when needed?



Jeeezus, if someone could do this to where it would actually work---have an 'Devx.sfs' that could actually be loaded, recognized & work in a DebianDog-version, then I'd be over the moon. As it is, anytime I want to compile, I just leave the DebianDogs, go to another machine with my full Deb 8 & 9 installs, compile there, and then come back & see if they work in the Dogs. But having a DEVX-SFS for DDogs. that I could load -on-the-fly, while still inside a DebianDog...pfffffttttt......that just would be the all to end all Shocked
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Fri 28 Jul 2017, 12:33    Post subject:  

belham2 wrote:
Jeeezus, if someone could do this to where it would actually work---have an 'Devx.sfs' that could actually be loaded, recognized & work in a DebianDog-version, then I'd be over the moon. As it is, anytime I want to compile, I just leave the DebianDogs, go to another machine with my full Deb 8 & 9 installs, compile there, and then come back & see if they work in the Dogs. But having a DEVX-SFS for DDogs. that I could load -on-the-fly, while still inside a DebianDog...pfffffttttt......that just would be the all to end all Shocked

This mechanism already exists and works for me in TD-Stretch.
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