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rg66


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PostPosted: Thu 27 Jul 2017, 16:27    Post subject:  

Since Firefox-52.9.0esr is most likely the end of the line, I've been trying palemoon and opera to find a replacement. Palemoon is OK but seems a bit buggy, Opera looks good but haven't been using it long. Any thoughts for the next X-slacko as the default browser?
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zagreb999

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Jul 2017, 16:36    Post subject: browser  

regards rg66
this one is perfect




https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/firefox-nightly/

ps. you can take xfce 4.13
it is stable

thanks
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PostPosted: Thu 27 Jul 2017, 18:55    Post subject:  

rg66 wrote:
Since Firefox-52.9.0esr is most likely the end of the line, I've been trying palemoon and opera to find a replacement. Palemoon is OK but seems a bit buggy, Opera looks good but haven't been using it long. Any thoughts for the next X-slacko as the default browser?
I'm a firm Slimjet convert at this point after dabbling in pretty much everything that is out there. Running OscarTalks 32 bit SFS's on everything from X-Slacko 4.2 through LxPupSc 17.07.25. I've used pretty much every version from 13.0.3.0 (IIRC) up to 15.0.3.0. A SFS/symlinked external profile scheme is totally easy to update, keeps the pupspace clean, and I like the chromium universality with a look and feel a bit more like the olden golden Opera days.

That said, browsers are a hot-button topic and I'm all for a minimal one shipped with the system and users choice once up and running. Will the next X-Slacko adrive? Having the browser and a few other contentious items like Abiword in an easily disabled adrive seems clean from both a maintenance and user configurability standpoint. Whew!

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PostPosted: Thu 27 Jul 2017, 19:31    Post subject:  

Hey Marv, long time.

Haven't tried SlimJet yet, will maybe have a look tomorrow. The reason I'm looking for a new browser is this will most likely be the last of the v4 series and want a bit of longevity. FF for gtk2 is over at 45.9.0esr, just found out Opera isn't supporting 32bit as of 46.x. Am currently leaning toward Palemoon, it also has an updater.

As far as Adrive's go, I'm a big fan. But, as this is the last 4.x, I won't be adding new features to this release. Also, if the Adrive is to be done right, as per Jemimah's Saluki, scripts need to be changed so PPM knows what's installed.

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Jul 2017, 06:54    Post subject:  

rg66 wrote:
Palemoon is OK but seems a bit buggy


Hi rg66 - has this observed "bugginess" been with the latest Palemoon version 27.4.0? It's been very solid/stable for me over the last few days of using. FWIW...

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Jul 2017, 11:49    Post subject:  

rg66 wrote:
Hey Marv, long time.

Haven't tried SlimJet yet, will maybe have a look tomorrow. The reason I'm looking for a new browser is this will most likely be the last of the v4 series and want a bit of longevity. FF for gtk2 is over at 45.9.0esr, just found out Opera isn't supporting 32bit as of 46.x. Am currently leaning toward Palemoon, it also has an updater.

As far as Adrive's go, I'm a big fan. But, as this is the last 4.x, I won't be adding new features to this release. Also, if the Adrive is to be done right, as per Jemimah's Saluki, scripts need to be changed so PPM knows what's installed.



+1!!







P.S. As much fits as Palemoon has been giving me the past 6 months (27.3 and 27.4 are buggy, imho, when it comes to video-intensive and javascript-intensive sites (like news and such)....what choice is left in the 32-bit world? It is basically Palemoon by default.....the other 3rd party 32-bit browsers just aren't there yet (though Slimjet on 64-bit has been something of a revelation to me---too bad the 32-bit version was canned).
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PostPosted: Fri 28 Jul 2017, 15:35    Post subject: Browsers
Subject description: Other Choices
 

Hello all!

I've just been doing a little research myself... (re: browser alternatives)
I would like to suggest/offer the following 2 choices:

K-Meleon (gecko engine)
http://kmeleonbrowser.org/download.php

Opera 12.18 (presto engine)
http://www.opera.com/download/index.dml/?os=windows&ver=12.18&local=y

I realize the opera version is for windows (run in wine mayhaps?) but, the 12.16 versions for linux doesn't have the updates.
12.18 is the last of the species!

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PostPosted: Fri 28 Jul 2017, 20:20    Post subject:  

I do like latest Palemoon 27.4.02 too.

For the next release, just from my wishlist:

The phlat theme is nice, https://www.xfce-look.org/p/1175851/

Maybe a .SFS for Scribus (the current 1.4.1. is a bit old).

And perhaps if someone could try to install the pip-package from the Package Manager. I failed at installing it (would want some libs, e.g. pip install pillow).

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Sorry, I knew wishlists are not the kindest way to say thanks. So I do it now: Thanks for X-Slacko, rg66! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri 28 Jul 2017, 21:13    Post subject: feed back about palemoon linked to palemoon  

feed back about palemoon linked to palemoon (chapter browsers)
Preferences/Content/Video and Uncheck Enable Media Source Extensions (MSE) !!!
Uncheck Enable Media Source Extensions (MSE)

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PostPosted: Sat 29 Jul 2017, 04:01    Post subject:  

I think for now, Palemoon is the only way to go. Most are dropping 32 bit and or gtk-2 support

I tried Slimjet, it's ok, similar to chrome but for a browser that touts add free surfing, it has a lot of spam type bookmarks. Plus, I get a --no-sandbox warning message every time.

Maybe the way of the future is for me to make a 64 bit X-Slacko. That just leaves the gtk-2 issue, has anyone installed gtk-3 and how does it affect puppy?

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PostPosted: Sat 29 Jul 2017, 04:24    Post subject:  

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64 bit X-Slacko

You are joking??? Could lose a lot of friends! 32bit runs on 64bit HW - the reverse is not true.
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Jul 2017, 05:15    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
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64 bit X-Slacko

You are joking??? Could lose a lot of friends! 32bit runs on 64bit HW - the reverse is not true.



LOL Laughing , as the moving-forward-world drags us old-timers kicking, screaming and yelling into a 64-bit (nee 128-bit) future:

LEAVE US GAFFERS ALONE, YEE CRAZY YOUNG BAST#RDS! Wink
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PostPosted: Sat 29 Jul 2017, 05:39    Post subject:  

rg66 wrote:
... has anyone installed gtk-3 and how does it affect puppy?


Hopefully someone more experienced will chime in... but I've had gtk3 installed in X-Tahr 2.0 for a while now (just so I could get these latest Firefox versions to theme properly/consistently with everything else) and notice no system-wide differences - positive or negative - otherwise.

The biggest downside IMHO is the very limited selection of (good) themes that support both gtk2 and gtk3. There's a growing number of 'em out there, of course, but in general I'm not a fan (too flat/dull/simple/bland/eye-straining compared to all of the great, highly-polished gtk2 themes that we're so used to... Sad ).

The additional space required for adding gtk3 wasn't too bad, as I (very vaguely) recall (not a deal-breaker for me, anyway). FWIW.

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PostPosted: Sat 29 Jul 2017, 06:57    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:

You are joking??? Could lose a lot of friends! 32bit runs on 64bit HW - the reverse is not true.


I said a 64 bit X-Slacko, not only a 64 bit X-Slacko

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PostPosted: Sat 29 Jul 2017, 08:35    Post subject:  

rg66 wrote:
...That just leaves the gtk-2 issue, has anyone installed gtk-3 and how does it affect puppy?

I installed, gtk+3-3.8.2 in xslacko-4.2, for basically the same reasons Moat stated, and also as he said, "notice no system-wide differences - positive or negative - otherwise."

It seems like a positive addition to the already fine xslacko.

btw, I vote for palemoon

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