A Precise 5.7.1 Retro Minimal and Bone Edition, Eng/Hun only

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Pelo

This precise is in permanent progress process

#21 Post by Pelo »

csipesz , what could i say, a Puppy-builder listening to passengers wishes, it's marvellous ! Nice idea for Palemoon
This precise is in permanent progress process. DPP in french, that is i well known management method in best Business High Schools.
571 then 571JP then 571Hu Then 571Qt. Nice no :?:

I have my idea. I like a lot lxqtpup, but it's a Slacko, with its PPM poorness.
I intend to transform Your Edition to make it Qt. It will be my task. Sucessfull or failed, i will try.

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#22 Post by Robert123 »

csipesz wrote:hi. I produced it one second puplet. This iso turned out somewhat bigger(130,4 Mb) and there is a palemoon 25.7.3 browser in him. On the other hand this browser-version, this googledrive- and yandex-compatible. (Yet...) Xhippo kicked out from this system...
It gnome-mplayer knows the same one.
Downloadable from here:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B38lNu ... sp=sharing
or from here:
https://mega.nz/#!1JFmSZ4L!6-tA90DqglKd ... FN8SILj7fc
Very nice it is too.
Devuan Linux, Stardust 013 (4.31) updated [url]https://archive.org/details/Stardustpup013glibc2.10[/url]
s57(2018)barebone[url]https://sourceforge.net/projects/puppy-linux-minimal-builds/files/s57%282018%29barebones.iso/download[/url]

Pelo

installing Exaile, which is a difficult one

#23 Post by Pelo »

Exaile added. It's only brain-storming. I wanted to test PPM. First updating it. And installing Exaile, which is a difficult one and requires some experience.
All that has worked Lucullusszal -sucessfully ?.
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Load all dependances but untick exaile ! then load exaile (second one)
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#24 Post by csipesz »

hi. I prepared it yet a "bone" variant from the previous puplet - the size of this rounding up 128 MB.
Hungarian forum-thread:
http://skamilinux.hu/phpBB3/viewtopic.p ... 5306#p5306
Downloadable from here:
precise-5.7.1JPRetroBoneEngHunShinobarCsipesz2017July.iso 127.5 MB
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B38lNu ... sp=sharing
and from here:
https://mega.nz/#!cMVEmIiQ!3iKoCL0DuDBk ... w2NWFvj3QU
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Pelo

how many downloaders ?

#25 Post by Pelo »

Have you an idea how many downloaders they are for hungarian Puppies ?,
(who like bones, as all puppies of the world)
A downloader soon is a passenger, but few suscribe to english spoken forums (fora).
First step is to remember what teachers taught (?) at school during english classroom.
Then to enjoy learning again after a hard day building roads or cars. Not everybody works in an office;.. With Microsoft office, and a computer.

Merci to listen to us, csipesz , some devs only listen to devs.

Pelo

french translation of menu is perfect, is it ?

#26 Post by Pelo »

french translation of menu is not yet perfect. It's an old file that was used.
(from Toutou Linux). Ask french devs they should provide you the latest for Precise 5.7.1
I look for it from my side.. Feed back coming.
internationalisation/langpack_fr-20141219.pet This one is better updated and works for Puppy from Hungary, even if it's a precise flavour.
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Pelo

bleachbit for precise Puppy

#27 Post by Pelo »

topic bleachbit for precise Puppy
csipesz, did you had difficulty with bleachbit to install it ?

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#28 Post by csipesz »

no... this not was too difficult; bleachbit needs a python 2.7 pack, than works already.

Pelo

just buy a cheap dongle know to fit with Puppy Linux

#29 Post by Pelo »

23°in Isaszeg you should use a different kernel which would allow people to take their laptop for a driving journey in the country side.
just buy a cheap dongle known to fit with Puppy Linux (see rcrsn topics about RTL8192 drivers)
I just bought a brand new battery. Not yet installed..
dogs are forbidden on the beach, most often. but hunting will soon come. Puli is a famous hungarian dog for that. Make sure your laptop is waterproof. Sure it was easier to surf the web on the beach
Palemoon version downloading from google drive (select the here above adress, right click, open in a new tab)
I was using the last version of firefox on your Precise, just update the firefox provided with the ISO. It's the clever choice for newbies trying Puppies, much better than geek browsers for linux experts as elinks. Update firefox is the only job to do. Even ex'windows passengers know that, Firefox is so popular.
Some devs should be able to imagine that the 200 000 downloaders don't read English how to in the forum Puppy Linux . Some devs imagine that passengers are all devs. Sure we are clever, because we speak English, and they don't speak French or Magyar, because they are US . But we don't speak Linux. That is too much.
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IvanSampa Brazil helps newbies by videos. Here Tutorial show Magyar version, that is useful
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Pelo

it failed

#30 Post by Pelo »

it failed :evil:
Instead of copying only the new sFS i had to copy all the files
I could burn a CD.. But it's half a day, often CDs are bad quality, and you have to do several burns
I could have used Lili Live USB creator, but all my files would have been erased because Pendrive has to be formatted.
I could have used isobooter, Which is not bad
I could have used the old unetbootin, but i would have problems with pupsaves..
s-kami tuto, unetbootin and windows XP
Grub4dos is the faster method, 5 minutes are enough, if nothing wrong as to-day.
Ha beszélsz angolul, lefordítani cikkek a fórumot, nagyon sok. Mon Hongrois est-il correct :?:
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Better, burn CDs, you will keep them ad vitam aeternam..
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Pelo

You should rename the SFS HU instead of JP, Isn'it

#31 Post by Pelo »

You should rename the SFS HU instead of JP, Isn'it ?
Overwrite old :?: Hungarian Precise files with the just issued
Multiboot pendrive with improved versions to fit passengers needs, language, bugs corrected, and some ideas from the european developer (csipesz for Hungary)
Jejy 69 for Slacko 5.3.3 XFCE (France)
Médor (and Pelo) for Slaxen (France)
Unknown :!: for X-Upup tahrpup 6.0.5 (Italia)
Vicmz for OBprecise (Spain)
And of course the japanese developer of 5.7.1 JL : Shinobar
LTS is available here by csipesz, and in the skamilinux forum. Devs stay available for helping downloaders, newbies... housewives ? Even if development is complete. And Puppy released, final release.
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Just an 'x' to remame pupsave will be enough to first boot in RAM.
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Pelo

nice keyboard for France..

#32 Post by Pelo »

nice keyboard for France..
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Something of pelo's french touch..
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Pelo

playing hungarian Puppy virtual box

#33 Post by Pelo »

If you need a video, please send a P/O.
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hamoudoudou

Congratulations

#34 Post by hamoudoudou »

Wonderful Puppy. Version should be 5.8 with so many ideas included. Tiny changes, big effects. Better development than to jump from kernel to kernel, Csipesz knows what he changes, and why.
Congratulations

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#35 Post by mikeslr »

Hi csipesz,

On hamoudoudou's recommendation --see he is good for something :lol: -- I decided to see what this puppy could do. I had forgotten how versatile Precise was/is. After adding qt libs, required by masterpdfeditor and foxitreader, about the only applications significantly 'outdated' seem to be google-chrome and clones.

As PupSysInfo wasn't included, the only RAM usage gauge I had was HTop. According to it, Precise 5.7.1 Retro Minimal only used 63 Mbs on bootup.

I'll try to remember to recommend Precise 5.7.1 Retro Minimal as among the Puppies to consider for 'older computers' and those desiring 'speed demons'.

Szép munka. Köszönöm*.

mikesLr

* As a properly brought up grandchild of Hungarian emigrants, I remembered "Köszönöm" even after 60+ years. "Szép munka" required google-translate.

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#36 Post by Puppyt »

Hi csipesz,
really on mikeslr's recommendation I threw a copy of your minimal Precise571, k3.2.48 barebones version onto a multiboot to test on an old Rocky II military laptop (2001) with specs listed in the subject line. IT WORKS! Most specifically, it properly loaded the opl3sa2/nm256 sound card /chip after a little tweaking with alsawizard. I have tried at least 10 other puplets on this machine without such success - THANK YOU!

Actually, I'm very surprised indeed to see it working with the opl3sa2 - I understand that official support for that chip ended in linux kernel 2.6.x or thereabouts - did you manually include the driver in your puplet perhaps??

All this working on a live boot, with a 214mb swap available. Love your selection of presets with PupRadio - Bonus! :) But when I tried to post this message from that machine, Palemoon refused to boot - I think because this old cpu has support only for SSE, not SSE2 as Palemoon requires. So I went to you PPM to download Opera etc, and no choices were available in your stripped-back environment.
I then started to update PPM, and got several databases downloaded however kept dropping out. When I tried "ppm" in terminal, the process stopped at

Code: Select all

** (gtkdialog4:14513): ERROR **: gtkdialog: Error in line 29, near token '</vbox>': syntax error
Could you test that this is not a problem with your distro, that PPM is not broken please? Cheers!
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hamoudoudou

archives Ubuntu.

#37 Post by hamoudoudou »

live and let die, Csipesz is very fond of updating his Puppies. He makes them to fulfill a CD, about 700MB..
Update the PPM for old version to get Your Puppy look in archives Ubuntu.
Mikeslr, using Puppies is as useful as building them. And feed backs are a pleasure for devs, at least for csipesz, if not in Murga forum, then in skamilinux team one, or in their numerous, daily posts on my facebook

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Palemoon SSE

#38 Post by mikeslr »

Hi puppyt.

"I think because this old cpu has support only for SSE, not SSE2 as Palemoon requires."

Perhaps google, https://cse.google.com/cse?cx=015995643 ... #gsc.tab=0*, for Walter Dynes's posts about the SSE version of Palemoon, such as this one: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 403#986403

As for opera, you can look for old versions maintained by opera, itself. Just download and unpack. They'll run from the resulting folder. opera 12.16 still does a quick and awesome job except for graphic-rich websites.

Sorry, figuring out what causes the PPM error you encountered is beyond my pay grade.

mikesLr


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#39 Post by Puppyt »

Hi mikeslr,
thumping away on the rubberied keys on the laptop in question - apologies for any typos...
The drama with the PPM I had earlier didn't reoccur after I opted to first create a save file - doh! Settling on csipesz' bareboones offering a permanent fixture on this Rocky II RT686 laptop - with old passive computer speakers attached, this old machine is *fanging* as a prettybloodygoodandnottooshabbyatall internet radio server. CHUFFED. Some of csipesz' station links are broken already and need new addresses - but can't be done without a working browser. Have installed Opera 12.16 - but it won't let me download the link you provided regarding the SSE-capable fork of palemoon. Currently downloading uget from PPM to get around such problems - wait I forgot wget onboard. Link appears invalid. Oh well - there's always slimboat to consider... Thanks very much for digging out that link! And cheers for the search engine - my signature is currently in arrears.
A note for csipesz - with PPM the "More info" button to enter the dialog to select co-dependencies doesn't seem to be working. Maybe I'll try out the fleshed-out 571retroPrecise to see how that compares...

Dogradio isn't working as expected - will have to go back to the forum thread for workarounds as it starts from terminal, but doesn't seem to go much further.
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#40 Post by Fossil »

mikeslr said:
As for opera, you can look for old versions maintained by opera, itself. Just download and unpack. They'll run from the resulting folder. opera 12.16 still does a quick and awesome job except for graphic-rich websites.
I agree: the old opera was both quick and secure. It can still be 'tweeked' for added security by going into the browser settings, opera:config - which are quite extensive.
See here: http://matejhorvat.si/en/unfiled/opera12.htm
It's sad the web sites containing the numerous add-ons and browser icons have now disappeared.

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