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muggins

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PostPosted: Thu 13 Jul 2017, 08:57    Post subject:  re: Min browser  
https://minbrowser.github.io/min/

Hello,

has anyone tried Min before? I just installed the i386 deb file & it seems to be quite fast.
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Sailor Enceladus

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PostPosted: Thu 13 Jul 2017, 18:25    Post subject:  
Seemed to work ok, after I installed gconf and mozilla-nss from ppm. My CPU was stuck at top frequency a lot but that might have been just a coincidence. I thought it was webkit/blink based, but mozilla-nss means it's gecko based? After installing it all my windows have a new minimize button though... I guess "min" icon overwrote some other "min" icon somewhere - heh.
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OscarTalks


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PostPosted: Thu 13 Jul 2017, 18:41    Post subject:  
Having things named as "min" may cause issues.
The package has /usr/share/pixmaps/min.png
Some Puppies may already have a file of that name at that location.
It is part of the JWM button style selector I think.
I renamed to "minbrowser.png" and made the corresponding change to the .desktop file.
That seems to remove any icon conflicts.
The browser looks like it may be chromium based but heavily modified, not sure.
It is working OK in my Wheezy remaster anyway.
Didn't need any extra packages.
Have only done a few brief tests though.
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peebee


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PostPosted: Fri 14 Jul 2017, 01:57    Post subject:  
Looks interesting....
Is chromium / electron based (similar to new Skype For Linux...)
Runs on LxPupSc with no additions or changes
Runs as root with no problem
Opened BBC iPlayer and Youtube with no problems
Sound works without pulseaudio
Does not need GTK+3 and has both 32-bit and 64-bit versions
About the same size as Seamonkey - bit bigger than Palemoon but smaller than both Firefox and Chromium.....

An interface that will take some getting used to....
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roadkill13

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Jul 2017, 02:48    Post subject:  
Quote:
Looks interesting....
Is chromium / electron based (similar to new Skype For Linux...)
Runs on LxPupSc with no additions or changes
Runs as root with no problem
Opened BBC iPlayer and Youtube with no problems
Sound works without pulseaudio
Does not need GTK+3 and has both 32-bit and 64-bit versions
About the same size as Seamonkey - bit bigger than Palemoon but smaller than both Firefox and Chromium.....

An interface that will take some getting used to....


An apt description. I am posting from this browser now.
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mistfire

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Jul 2017, 08:11    Post subject:  
Does it HTML5 compliant?
Does it plays HTML5 video and audio?
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slavvo67

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PostPosted: Fri 14 Jul 2017, 22:22    Post subject:  
So I tried it in RU Xerus64 and it worked very well but then....

Where are the forward, back and reload navigation buttons. Really? What was the developer thinking here???

This would easily overtake the overrated Palemoon as a good light browser if it had just a little nicer user interface....
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PostPosted: Fri 14 Jul 2017, 23:45    Post subject:  
Just wondering since this is Chrome/Electron how well the browser passes the Client-Side Test.
This will check SSL capabilities.

BTW: the direct-download installs, so not for me... can't store it to remove other browser.

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Jul 2017, 12:11    Post subject:  
mistfire wrote:
Does it HTML5 compliant?
Does it plays HTML5 video and audio?

8Geee wrote:
Just wondering since this is Chrome/Electron how well the browser passes the Client-Side Test.


Test results:

https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZIRqiZP84CLS5AzMJF4Uomt2cl3fQNN7E7

Releases page:
https://github.com/minbrowser/min/releases/
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keniv

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Jul 2017, 15:48    Post subject:  
Does not work in an older pup. I tried it in the most up to date version of Lucid 5287. Did not open. Tried from a terminal and complained about a couple of things. Tried looking for missing dependencies. There were none! Back to the terminal and tried to use the output to look for what was missing in ppm.
No luck with this so I think thats far as I can go for now. Probably too big for my hardware anyway.

Ken.
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mostly_lurking

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PostPosted: Sat 15 Jul 2017, 20:25    Post subject:  
keniv wrote:
Does not work in an older pup. I tried it in the most up to date version of Lucid 5287. Did not open. Tried from a terminal and complained about a couple of things. Tried looking for missing dependencies. There were none! Back to the terminal and tried to use the output to look for what was missing in ppm.
No luck with this so I think thats far as I can go for now. Probably too big for my hardware anyway.

As I expected, it doesn't work on Wary either. (Outdated glibc, etc. - which is likely your problem, too. Don't try to update these libraries, you would break your system.)

I tested it in a virtual machine with Tahrpup 6.0.6, together with 2 other browsers - the pre-installed Palemoon 27, and Seamonkey 2.33.1. I had to increase the VM's memory from my usual 512MB to 1GB to be able to use any of these browsers without having them crash on start-up.

Performance-wise, I couldn't see much difference, and the memory usage is similar, too. (~400-450MB idle, without displaying a web page. Seamonkey seems to be slightly heavier than the others.) With a ~160MB program folder, Min is about twice as big as Palemoon and Seamonkey (both ~85MB).

The user interface is... meh.
It's very clumsy. The tab title bar doubles as address bar, which means you can't see or enter any URL unless you click on it. I found the tabs hard to distinguish from each other. On the second picture below you can see which sites I visited because I couldn't figure out how to clear the browsing history. (Wait, I think I found it: Menu > Developer > Inspect Browser > Application. How very intuitive...) There is no status bar either; to see where a link goes, you have to right-click it. And as slavvo67 said, there are no navigation buttons - or anything else really, besides the tab bar. When I went to wikipedia.org, Min claimed that the site's HTTPS was valid (Menu > Developer > Inspect page > Security), but clicking on "view certificate" did nothing.

The preferences page offers these options:
- block ads/trackers/scripts/images
- change the browser's appearance to "dark mode", which doesn't seem to do anything
- swipe navigation (is that for mobile things?)
- select a search engine

... That's about it.

This is a browser with quite a few development/profiling features, but barely any end-user functionality. It doesn't look like a finished product yet.

mistfire wrote:
Does it HTML5 compliant?
Does it plays HTML5 video and audio?

Yes, it does. Youtube works, and I also tested some HTML5 game.
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jul 2017, 19:37    Post subject:  
I think that I'm changing my mind on this one. Interface is a bit different but it's quick. Perhaps this is the Palemoon replacement. Cool
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PostPosted: Mon 17 Jul 2017, 19:37    Post subject:  
I think that I'm changing my mind on this one. Interface is a bit different but it's quick. Perhaps this is the Palemoon replacement. Cool
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Mike Walsh


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PostPosted: Thu 20 Jul 2017, 06:52    Post subject:  
Morning, all.

Thought I'd give this one a spin, and, er.....yes, I agree. The interface will take some 'getting used to..!

However, it is fast. Definitely. No means I can see for importing bookmarks; or setting a 'home' page. Seems you need to type your URLs in afresh, every time. It's got promise, though.

Even more interestingly, I've got Radiotunes playing in it.....yet according to Adobe's 'Flash Checker' page, it couldn't load the plug-in! Very odd... Can't quite figure that one out.

I've run up a 64-bit SFS for anyone who'd like to try this out without permanently installing it. It's a 'generic' package; my experience over the last year or so has been that Electron-based apps will run in all Pups, as long as the glibc's new enough.

It's available here:-

http://www.mediafire.com/file/cz73wsvsw767vqr/Min-1.6.0-amd64.sfs

Have fun!


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quirkian2new

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PostPosted: Sat 22 Jul 2017, 09:19    Post subject:  
Thanks to Minbrowser developer and Mike. Thanks BarryK for Quirky8.2

Yes. it is fast, especially running in latest Quirky8.2. It's also small in size as compared with other Chromium derivatives.

Hope there be better user interface as comment by you all above.
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