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Incomplete listing of loadable sfs in /mnt/home

#541 Post by davids45 »

G'day,

I think this may be a woof ce issue so I'm posting this query here.

I'm setting up my 64-bit Frugals partition. I've about half a dozen recent 64-bit Pups and about the same number of relatively old ones. I had previously pretty much ignored 64-bit over 32-bit but am now giving them a try.

I'm putting as many package sfs onto the partition's root directory (= each Pup's /mnt/home directory) as I can to economise adding my usual packages when adding a new 64-bit Pup.

But I cannot get all these sfs listed when trying to load an sfs into a particular 64-bit Pup with the Bootmanager or SFS-load-on-the-fly. I hope the two screenshots explain my dilemma.

I suspect the (unlisted) missing sfs are those toward the end of the alphabetic list.

I'm not advanced enough with making and checking my 64-bit sfs to combine them into a massive sfs like I do for the 32-bit Pups.

Is there a fix for Bootmanager or Load-on-the-fly for me to list all the sfs in /mnt/home? Say, up to 20 sfs, perhaps with a scroll bar?

Thanks for any help.

David S.


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the sfs files in /mnt/home for a 64-bit Pup (slacko64-6964) - I want all these while checking which work but will later combine many into one.
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#542 Post by musher0 »

Hello all.

There was a request here for a CLI ftp, so I compiled the whole GNU
inetutils package on DPupStretch-7. (This inetutils package includes
the GNU ftp.)

Please find attached. It's in two blocks. To re-assemble, please open
a console in the download directory and type

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cat xa?-inet*.pet > inetutils-1.9.4_exec.pet
Then you install the inetutils-1.9.4_exec.pet archive as usual.

A tree of the contents is also attached.

Please test. Feedback is always appreciated.

In the hope that it helps someone. BFN.

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Note -- I made available the GNU CLI ftp as a standalone pet on the thread
mentioned above.
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Woof CE Debian Stretch and Devuan Ascii Based Development

#543 Post by Billtoo »

I'm trying out another build:

# uname -ra
Linux puppypc6050 4.4.64-pae #1 SMP Fri Apr 28 15:32:07 EDT 2017 i686 GNU/Linux
#
# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Dpup Stretch, version 7.0.0a1

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1920x1080
Depth (bits, or planes): 24
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe
Drivers requested to be loaded: nvidia

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nvidia
Loaded modules: dbe dri2 fb glx kbd mouse ramdac wfb

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1920x1080 pixels (707x392 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#

Using Qupzilla-1.8.9 instead of Firefox, it's working okay so far.
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#544 Post by OscarTalks »

Not urgent I suppose, since MPlayer and MPV are working well and I have SMPlayer if I want an elegant and sophisticated front end, but what is the status of VLC in Stretch?

Source code tarball latest release of VLC is 2.2.4 and ./configure complains that libavutil 55 or later is not supported. This is the version in ffmpeg 3.x so looks like the native ffmpeg in Stretch is too new for the current VLC release. Videolan website also indicates that Stretch is in testing and VLC may not work.

Downloading source code clone from git gives version 3.0.0-git which does compile against ffmpeg 3.x and libavutil 55 but the compiled VLC does not run properly. Video opens in a separate window, keyboard controls don't work and other errors.

Going back to VLC 2.2.4 it will compile if I roll back my ffmpeg to latest version 2.x which is 2.8.11 but then I have to retain the ffmpeg 2.x libraries for VLC along with the system ffmpeg 3.x libs. Not ideal, but for anyone who wants VLC it does appear to be working including hevc and the commonly-used codecs. The package becomes a little bulky but as .sfs or some other scenarios it doesn't matter much, plus since I am launching via a wrapper to give priority to the older ffmpeg I can add in the needed Qt libs as well to make it not need Qt as a dependency. Maybe others have some suggestions or patches or something. Meanwhile hopefully they are working on sorting out VLC 3.x

EDIT:- Uploading a package of my build in case anyone wants to take a look.
https://yadi.sk/d/nxx9TP2i3HcXB5?force_show=1
Private ffmpeg roll-back libs, Qt and other needed libs included so should be just install and go. I am working in my own personal remaster now and we don't have a standard distro config to work to yet. No NLS language translations, even with an .sfs it seems silly to add so much bulk that will not be needed. If you need one for your language you should just extract only the relevant one. 01micko has an NLS .pet here:-
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... 6_s700.pet
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#545 Post by futwerk »

new backgrounds.
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#546 Post by musher0 »

Thanks, futwerk.

Your "dstretch5,3" background (just above) works for me!

BFN
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#547 Post by musher0 »

Can we extend DpupStretch to DCanineStretch? :) Would it count? :)

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BTW, if you can yawn and stretch on all fours at the same time,
please let us know? :lol: I'll ask pelo to make a video!!! :twisted:
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#548 Post by musher0 »

This more like it?! :lol:

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Gnumeric and Peasy wifi 4.1 added at home..

#549 Post by Pelo »

Gnumeric and Peasy wifi 4.1 added at home..goffice-lupu-528JP-1.sfs: 7196 K
Gnumeric is a clone of Excel, Our boss asked us during years to fulfill cells to check how our work was efficient. So Gnumeric has no secret for many of us. mtcell edit : what is this thing ?
PeasyyWifi because easier to launch than Frisbee
Kernel : fast, but can i surf the web outside with my laptop ? Useful when you are visiting some nice place in France, with you old friends (more than 65 years old)

Dpup Exprimo menu was so complete.. :cry:
I still have it :)

Musher0 since his first ages plays more with the wrapping paper than with the Puppies . The menu card is not the menu. However i downloaded AEWM, to challenge myself. Dpup stretch has no plus compared to... Puppy 4.3.1. Will Médor and Argolance stretch with you :?: Musketeers one for all, all for one was a famous trio (was)
Good news :) DpupStrecth has a pet provided by rcrsn51 for going oudoor, with an antenna plugged in his collar (as Puppy 4.3.1)
rcrsn51 stores, where Wifi drivers available for kernel 4.1.38
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Guys, it's a Puppy running well

#550 Post by Pelo »

Musher, there is no video tool included. Check first my previous video if you like (SSR Simple Screen Recorder now, after Xvidcap and pAVrecord)
If devs included from woofce only apps they use... passengers will still run puppies from the golden ages. However, Palemoon is included. Ouf...
:) Guys, it's a Puppy running well, first tries. Just wait from people to feed back what they would like in the menu. (like Pemasu did)
Dillo would satisfy only few of us.
PPM updating... I will try to install Griffith, as a test.

# griffith
2017-05-17T07:55:56: E: Griffith(griffith:73): Error: missing modules:
2017-05-17T07:55:56: E: Griffith(griffith:75): gtk
2017-05-17T07:55:56: E: Griffith(griffith:77): :: required version: 2.6
2017-05-17T07:55:56: E: Griffith(griffith:80):

2017-05-17T07:55:56: E: Griffith(griffith:75): gtk.glade
2017-05-17T07:55:56: E: Griffith(griffith:77): :: required version: 2.6
2017-05-17T07:55:56: E: Griffith(griffith:80):

2017-05-17T07:55:56: E: Griffith(griffith:75): PIL
2017-05-17T07:55:56: E: Griffith(griffith:80):

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#551 Post by musher0 »

Hello all.

I have edited my previous post about qiv (or feh?) using the same backdrop
as ROX's PuppyPin, here. This is a trade secret, so keep it hush-hush, eh?. ;)

BFN.
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Re: Gnumeric and Peasy wifi 4.1 added at home..

#552 Post by musher0 »

(Numbers by me.)
Pelo wrote:(...)
1) Musher0 since his first ages plays more with the wrapping paper than with the Puppies.

2) The menu card is not the menu.

3) However i downloaded AEWM, to challenge myself.

4) Dpup stretch has no plus compared to... Puppy 4.3.1. Will Médor and Argolance stretch with you :?:

5) Musketeers one for all, all for one was a famous trio (was)
(...)[/url]
Hi pelo.

1) Since "my first ages"... Yeah, sure, I fell in a bathtub full of WM's
(Window Managers) when I was a baby! :twisted: Actually, I blame my
passion for simple WM's on the LiteShell shell from the XP era.

2) Sorry, the "menu card", as you put it, IS the menu. In modern
computing, to speak in images like you do, you click on the Hamburg-
steak entry in the menu and a Hamburg-steak appears on your screen. Or
frog's legs. Or French onion soup. No lovely waitress necessary as go-
between (which is indeed a shame!)

Menus are everywhere in modern computing. Not numbered choices in a
terminal, not a panel, not a card. Drop-down menus, by themselves and
in apps.

3) About aewm: I'm glad you finally sank your teeth into something
substantial. jwm is so "passé"... Developer Decklyn Foster's concept of a
WM was so on the dot and futuristic, it's still current today.

4) "DPupStretch has no plus." Well, PuppyLinux is ahead of even Debian
on the Stretch. As to it not offering a plus compared to Puppy 4.3.1, that's
your opinion only. Puppy 4.3.1 was indeed a landmark in its day, but
seven years have passed since its release. DPupStretch has glibc 2.24 for
contemporary apps, and lots of wifi connections that you crave for, which
the 4.3.1 Puppy didn't have. Also, try recent browsers on the Puppy 4.3.1:
oops.

5) You forget Captain D'Artagnan: the Three Musketeers were always a
quartet, never a trio!

BFN.
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Stretch and Printing

#553 Post by davids45 »

G'day,

Has anyone been able to print (on paper) with any Stretch-Pup?

Billtoo reports many builds but may not have a printer to test these.

I have had to "retro-grade" ghostscript in every Stretch to be able to print with my Epson ink-jet (thanks to our respected 'usual suspect' for his fix).

David S.

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#554 Post by musher0 »

Hello all,

Please find attached the latest version of the "file" utility, released a week
ago (May 24 2017), compiled on and for DPupStretch-7.0.

The "file" utility attempts to classify the type of a file by its contents.
For more about it:
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/S ... 6313.shtml

This basic utility is used by a number of GNU utilities, also by Midnight
Commander (mc) and some other file managers. It's important to keep it
up to date; if not, newer file types may be missed or misinterpreted.

My ex-factory DPupStretch-7.0 indicates that it's using version 5.03 of
"file", while this most recent one is version 5.31. ChangelogS are here.

Enjoy! BFN.
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#555 Post by fredx181 »

Hi All,

Reporting a problem on Stretch and a question:
When using Gparted formatting a partition to ext4 filesystem and run e.g. grub4dosconfig or any other way to make it bootable (e.g. with extlinux) it is still not bootable.
Can anyone reproduce this ?
Discussed also here: http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 680#932680 (same problem on Ubuntu Yakkety)
A workaround is changing these lines in /etc/mke2fs.conf:

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	ext4 = {
		features = has_journal,extent,huge_file,flex_bg,metadata_csum,64bit,dir_nlink,extra_isize
		inode_size = 256
	}
	ext4dev = {
		features = has_journal,extent,huge_file,flex_bg,metadata_csum,inline_data,64bit,dir_nlink,extra_isize
		inode_size = 256
		options = test_fs=1
	}
To this:

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	ext4 = {
		features = has_journal,extent,huge_file,flex_bg,uninit_bg,dir_nlink,extra_isize
		auto_64-bit_support = 1
		inode_size = 256
	}
	ext4dev = {
		features = has_journal,extent,huge_file,flex_bg,uninit_bg,dir_nlink,extra_isize
		inode_size = 256
		options = test_fs=1
	}
Or just use mke2fs.conf from Jessie

So the workaround is OK, but I wonder if anyone has thoughts on this, because when doing a websearch I couldn't find a bugreport or something.

Fred

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#556 Post by musher0 »

Hi fredx181.

In GParted, once your ext4 partition was created and formatted, have you
flagged it as bootable? If not, that would explain your problem.

Please see illustrations below.

IHTH.
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#557 Post by rockedge »

Debian 9 refuses to boot on 32gig USB stick after using Gparted to format to ext4 set the boot flag then used GRUB4DOS. Reinstalled Debian 9 on the USB stick using Puppy Linux Tahr 6.0.6 letting the GRUB2 from the Debian installer do it's work and it will boot. I can not get the GRUB4DOS to chain to the GRUB2 on the usb stick after several more tries.

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#558 Post by fredx181 »

@musher0
In GParted, once your ext4 partition was created and formatted, have you
flagged it as bootable? If not, that would explain your problem.
Thanks, but I did set the bootflag, so the problem is not there, it's in the difference in /etc/mke2fs.conf :
has_journal,extent,huge_file,flex_bg,metadata_csum,64bit,dir_nlink,extra_isize
(force 64bit, I think, just guessing, but I do use a 64-bit machine, btw)

@rockedge
I'm going to try with GRUB2 soon, if that works it would mean that grub4dos is not supported anymore when formatted to ext4 by using newer OS's such as Stretch ?, thanks for the info.

Fred
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Pelo

Puppy stretch[/b] boots easily on my USBs.

#559 Post by Pelo »

What about PPM for Debian Strecth.. Binaries Missing ?
Puppy stretch boots easily on my USBs. I don't use Debian original OS (Our Little Puppy Linux much faster, but i need Debian packages)
Debian lovers can run Pupjibaro Synaptic

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#560 Post by fredx181 »

Pelo wrote:Puppy stretch boots easily on my USBs.
Ok, but did you use Puppy stretch to format your USB to ext4 ?
That's where the problem is (for me at least). EDIT: So not only with original Debian OS, but also with d-pup-Stretch.

If it's formatted by using e.g. Tahrpup or Debiandog-Jessie or with any other older OS, then there's no problem to make it bootable for me either.

EDIT: @all, rockedge
Just tested with GRUB2 and works fine making bootable USB.
So I tend to the conclusion that grub4dos isn't supported anymore when formatted to ext4 by using newer OS's such as Stretch. I'll just stick to the workaround I described earlier:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 397#959397

Fred
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