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#401 Post by step »

666philb wrote:
step wrote:xenialpup64-7.0.8.1-uefi.iso boots in qemu with UEFI option. A small issue: while the system is early loading, qemu displays a black screen with just this message "system hasn't inizialized video (yet)". Then after about 20 seconds, the normal boot console log starts showing until the system is fully booted to graphics.
hi step ,
have a look through /var/log/messages to see what happened during the boot process.
Hi Phil, I did, and I couldn't find anything terribly suspicious. No blatant error messages for sure.
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#402 Post by bigpup »

666philb wrote:hi bigpup,

can you try booting with

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nouveau.config=NvGrUseFW=1
and if that fails can you try this http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pe ... .0.8.1.sfs

renaming to adrv.......sfs as before
No affect.

Tried with just the boot option

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nouveau.config=NvGrUseFW=1
Tried with just the firmware adrv sfs.
Tried using both.

Only thing that works is booting with added boot option:

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nouveau.modeset=0
It boots OK in Tahrpup 6.0.5 or 6.0.6, with no added boot option.
Is Xenialpup using a different Nouveau driver?
Maybe could be that :idea:
Or different Xorg :idea:
Maybe a setting in the Kernel :idea:

Are we having fun yet? :shock: :lol:
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#403 Post by bigpup »

Also wondering why this is happening.
Changed the refresh rate in menu->Setup->Xorg Video Wizard->Screen Resolution (Xorg.conf) and it says it changed.

However I get this output in Pup-Sysinfo
VIDEO REPORT: xenialpup, version 7.0.8.1

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM204 [GeForce GTX 970] (rev a1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1366x768
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe ddc fb fbdevhw glx int10 kbd mouse shadow vbe vesa

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (271x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
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#404 Post by 666philb »

bigpup wrote:Also wondering why this is happening.
Changed the refresh rate in menu->Setup->Xorg Video Wizard->Screen Resolution (Xorg.conf) and it says it changed.

However I get this output in Pup-Sysinfo
VIDEO REPORT: xenialpup, version 7.0.8.1

Chip description:
VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM204 [GeForce GTX 970] (rev a1)

Requested by /etc/X11/xorg.conf:
Resolution (widthxheight, in pixels): 1366x768
Modules requested to be loaded: dbe

Probing Xorg startup log file (/var/log/Xorg.0.log):
Driver loaded (and currently in use): nouveau
Loaded modules: dbe ddc fb fbdevhw glx int10 kbd mouse shadow vbe vesa

Actual rendering on monitor:
Resolution: 1024x768 pixels (271x203 millimeters)
Depth: 24 planes

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
hi bigpup.... can you try the 4.9.15 kernel here
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/huge_kernels/

if you have a savefile/folder type into a terminal and follow the instructions

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change_kernels
else grab the kernel from ibiblio, unzip & rename accordingly vmlinux...blaah..blaahh > vmlinuz
& kernel-modules...blah..blah > xenialpup-or-whatever.zdrvsfs
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#405 Post by recobayu »

Thank you Phil. I install it by copying into my flashdisk. That's works.
But when I use YUMI, I can not boot it. How to make YUMI boot my Xenial 7.0.8.1?

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#406 Post by bigpup »

hi bigpup.... can you try the 4.9.15 kernel here
Downloaded the huge-4.9.15-xenialpup64.tar.bz2

Tried the 4.9.15 kernel in Xenialpup64 7.0.8.1

No help.

Still had to use nouveau.modeset=0 to get it to boot to desktop.

Pup_Sysinfo
▶—— Linux Kernel ——◀

Kernel Release: 4.9.15
Build Date: Fri Mar 17 15:54:36 GMT 2017
OS Support: GNU/Linux
Architecture: x86_64
SMP Enabled: Yes
I am having fun are you? :lol:


This had no affect on the resolution settings.
Still shows the same Pup-Sysinfo.

This could be the monitor telling something it can not use the 1366X768 resolution, but it is suppose to be able to.
Well, the native resolution is 1360x768.
It may be detecting that, so it will not let 1366x768 work.

Graphics hardware, resolution settings, seems to have turned into a black art. :evil:
What should work seems to never work.
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#407 Post by peebee »

I'm getting a network interface tunl0 that I've never seen before - only on the first screen on Internet Connection Wizard - does not show on sns or frisbee gui....
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#408 Post by bigpup »

xenialpup 7.0.8.1
Frugal on USB flash drive.
Save folder.

Desktop drive icons.

The unmount (added icon) that appears (upper right) on drive icons when mounted.

Clicking on this (added icon) does not unmount drive.
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#409 Post by valks »

Booting from a external hard drive. I get a black screen then X failed. Enter in text mode, the advice from the terminal was execute the Xorgwizard.
After executed it and trying to execute the X server, still fail.
The xorg log says:

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RADEON: failed to initialise surface manager
radeon_setup_kernel_mem failed
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AMD A6-6310 APU with AMD Radeon R4 Graphics
6 GB of Ram
Sorry for my english
any advice? :lol:

Edit
The X server work now, just executing xorgwizard and select the 2nd option "modesetting" I think. Then just execute in terminal Xwin and the dekstop appear.

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#410 Post by bigpup »

Xenialpup 7.0.8.1
Xenialpup64 7.0.8.1

To boot to the desktop. I had to add nouveau.modeset=0 to the boot options.

Both boot to desktop and seem to be working with the Nouveau driver.
Do not understand why this should be needed.

This may explain what the problem could be caused by.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 723#696723

Some good info in this post and the one below it.
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#411 Post by bigpup »

Xenialpup 7.0.8.1
Frugal on USB flash
Save folder

sfsget in console brings up the xenial kernel source sfs.

It will not download.

This is the windows I see and the errors.
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#412 Post by bigpup »

Xenialpup 7.0.8.1
kernel 4.9.13

Something not looking correct on memory information.

This computer has 16GB of memory.

Look what free shows.
root# free
total
Mem: 2141524

-/+ buffers/cache: 316032 1825492
Swap: 0 0 0
Look at what it shows in Pup-sysInfo
Memory Allocation:
Total RAM: 2091 MB
Used RAM: 1306 MB
Free RAM: 785 MB
Buffers: 72 MB
Cached: 920 MB
Total Swap: 0 MB
Free Swap: 0 MB

Actual Used RAM: 314 MB Used - (buffers + cached)
Actual Free RAM: 1777 MB Free + (buffers + cached)
Looks to me like it is only seeing and using 2GB of memory.
Because Xenialpup 7.0.8.1 is no PAE
It should be seeing around 4GB :?: :?
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Re: Xenialpup CE 7.0.8.1

#413 Post by noalternative »

666philb wrote:Xenialpup 7.0.8.1 beta

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iso devx here http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/test/xenialpup/
for the kernel sources type sfsget into a terminal
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happy testing
Can this devx and kernel source be used for 7.0.4 version of xenial beta? If not, where can I find those sfs programs?

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#414 Post by backi »

Hi !
Installed zram-config with PPM .

Module zram not included ......Zram not working .

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#415 Post by bigpup »

Any ideas on my above issue with memory?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 552#949552
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#416 Post by peebee »

Anybody got a copy of kernel_sources-4.1.31-xenial_PAE.sfs as used in xenial-7.0.4 ? (no longer available on ibiblio....)

If it could be uploaded somewhere that would be great.
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kernel_sources-4.1.31-xenial_PAE.sfs

#417 Post by watchdog »

kernel_sources-4.1.31-xenial_PAE.sfs:

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# md5sum /mnt/home/kernel_sources-4.1.31-xenial_PAE.sfs
58dfefb713b051f5995f0990d41dc42a  /mnt/home/kernel_sources-4.1.31-xenial_PAE.sfs
# 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9iMb4 ... sp=sharing

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32bit PAE

#418 Post by shinobar »

I hope 32bit PAE kernel with forcepae option available such as kernel 4.0.4-tahr_PAE.
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#419 Post by 6502coder »

bigpup wrote:Any ideas on my above issue with memory?
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 552#949552
Xenialpup 7.0.8.1 uefi iso, LiveCD test
I got similar results on my Dell desktop, with free and Pup-sysInfo only showing about 3 GB of the 8 GB installed.

However, I could not reproduce the sfsget bug you reported.

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re the memory found

#420 Post by sheldonisaac »

bigpup (in part) wrote:Xenialpup 7.0.8.1
kernel 4.9.13
Something not looking correct on memory information.
This computer has 16GB of memory.
Look what free shows.
root# free
total
Mem: 2141524
-/+ buffers/cache: 316032 1825492
Swap: 0 0 0
Look at what it shows in Pup-sysInfo
Memory Allocation:
Total RAM: 2091 MB
Used RAM: 1306 MB
Free RAM: 785 MB
Buffers: 72 MB
Cached: 920 MB
Total Swap: 0 MB
Free Swap: 0 MB
Actual Used RAM: 314 MB Used - (buffers + cached)
Actual Free RAM: 1777 MB Free + (buffers + cached)
Looks to me like it is only seeing and using 2GB of memory.Because Xenialpup 7.0.8.1 is no PAE
It should be seeing around 4GB :?: :?
bigpup, I just booted without savefile: will snip some. The PC has 4GB.

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Pup-SysInfo Hardware Report (Summary), Sat 15 Apr 2017
PC Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
Product Name: Latitude E6410
Memory Allocation:
 Total RAM: 3814 MB
 Used RAM: 676 MB
 Free RAM: 3138 MB
 Total Swap: 0 MB
Actual Used RAM: 150 MB  	Used - (buffers + cached)
 Actual Free RAM: 3664 MB	Free + (buffers + cached)
Linux Kernel: 4.9.15 (x86_64)
Distro: xenialpup64 7.0.8.5

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free
             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
Mem:       3905920     976672    2929248     389692      97760     620892
-/+ buffers/cache:     258020    3647900
Swap:            0          0          0
Oh, maybe this is not relevant; you reported on the regular Xenial, not the 64?
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