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MrAccident
Joined: 31 Mar 2014 Posts: 293
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Posted: Sun 12 Mar 2017, 11:20 Post subject:
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I've found a thread on this forum about the subject - but couldn't understand anything.
So from the beginning - sound in FireFox as of latest version - doesn't work, and the program's notification tells me to install PulseAudio.
This is the page I found for installation - Quote: | http://www.puppylinux.org/wikka/pulseaudio | ; and it seems incredibly complicated; many dependencies with their own dependencies etc; and I don't even understand how to install them.
I didn't find it in PPM. Is there a simple way to install it?
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Semme

Joined: 07 Aug 2011 Posts: 8021 Location: World_Hub
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Posted: Sun 12 Mar 2017, 11:37 Post subject:
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Pup version? Really, "ALWAYS" include this when asking for help.
Have you got its corresponding devx loaded? It contains build tools required for compiling.
_________________ >>> Living with the immediacy of death helps you sort out your priorities. It helps you live a life less trivial <<<
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MrAccident
Joined: 31 Mar 2014 Posts: 293
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Posted: Sun 12 Mar 2017, 14:44 Post subject:
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Sorry, forgot; Slacko 5.7.0.
I installed only PulseAudio without the dependencies - but that just made FireFox crash when the video started.
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Semme

Joined: 07 Aug 2011 Posts: 8021 Location: World_Hub
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Posted: Sun 12 Mar 2017, 14:49 Post subject:
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And my other question?
_________________ >>> Living with the immediacy of death helps you sort out your priorities. It helps you live a life less trivial <<<
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watchdog
Joined: 28 Sep 2012 Posts: 1931 Location: Italy
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Posted: Sun 12 Mar 2017, 15:47 Post subject:
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In slacko 5.7 works the following pulseaudio by OscarTalks:
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/pulseaudio-2.1-i486-w5.pet
Install it and type in console:
Code: | pulseaudio --start
/path-to/firefox
pulseaudio --kill |
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MrAccident
Joined: 31 Mar 2014 Posts: 293
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Posted: Sun 12 Mar 2017, 16:29 Post subject:
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+watchdog
There are 2 "firefox" folders: one in "share", one in "lib".
Also - it's portable FireFox; if it matters.
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OscarTalks

Joined: 05 Feb 2012 Posts: 2039 Location: London, England
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Posted: Sun 12 Mar 2017, 16:50 Post subject:
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As an alternative, try installing the suitable apulse package from:-
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks
Then just run Firefox with the command (or use one of the other methods for loading the apulse libraries with preference over the pulse libraries in /usr/lib).
The apulse libraries are in the sub-directory /usr/lib/apulse so as not to break any programs that need the original libpulse
_________________ Oscar in England

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MrAccident
Joined: 31 Mar 2014 Posts: 293
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Posted: Sun 12 Mar 2017, 17:40 Post subject:
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+OscarTalks - WORKS! Thanks a lot!
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James186282

Joined: 08 Sep 2009 Posts: 269 Location: Minnesota
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Posted: Sun 19 Mar 2017, 17:25 Post subject:
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I am so pissed that I wasted a morning trying to figure out why Firefox suddenly didn't do sound. It seems to me that if your going to change your program so that it suddenly is not going to work on a large qty of Linux systems you should have some sort of serious message alerting the user. There was a "suggestion" about me loading Pulse but thats as appealing to me as loading another buggy version of Flash?
The comment made from Mozilla about Firefox not going to continue to use ALSA "Not going to happen" inspires me to say that its a perfect time to switch to Opera or? I've already made up a output file of bookmarks. Now doing some of the tedious stuff concerning passwords and so forth. So far my first impression is Opera is small and fast and its not Firefox. Which was sort of my reason for switching to Firefox. IE It wasn't Microsoft Explorer. These guys do know that Pulse etc all sit on top of ALSA? That sound latency is a serious issue that isn't done well when you stack more abstraction layers on top of each other.
Skype was the first program (That I used) that decided ALSA wasn't going to be supported any longer. It took a lot of screwing around but I got Pulse on a machine but... Skype then became unusually crappy and I kept having sound problems. So my next machine didn't have Skype or pulse and I'm much happier. Maybe its just me but I think Microsoft can ruin anything it touches and Skype is a good example. When a program decides it needs more abstraction I decide that the people writing the code don't know what they are doing and that like so many other things has crossed into being more garbage/bloatware.
Seriously - what does Pulse do that ALSA can't? Some might say its easier but that (To me) is totally subjective. The further away from the actual hardware operates the more difficult it becomes to do things correctly or know what is really going on. If Mozilla can't find guys who can handle writing code for ALSA maybe they should not be "upgrading" Firefox every week? Speaking of which - I think the sign that a program is going to hell is when its so easily screwed with that it needs updates all the time.
I wish I had saved my notes but in the end I just decided installing Pulse was a seriously bad move. If your having trouble installing Pulse your not alone. In fact I'll give you even odds that when your done the sound won't work with anything.
ALSA is going to be there regardless if its being supported so why not support what HAS to be on every Linux machine and not a bloated abstraction layer of slow code?
_________________ Science is what we understand well enough to explain to a computer.
Art is everything else we do.
Donald Knuth
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Semme

Joined: 07 Aug 2011 Posts: 8021 Location: World_Hub
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Posted: Sun 19 Mar 2017, 18:33 Post subject:
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[^]Sounds like a scene from the X "Far Side" Files..[/^]
_________________ >>> Living with the immediacy of death helps you sort out your priorities. It helps you live a life less trivial <<<
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bigpup

Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Posts: 13005 Location: S.C. USA
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Posted: Mon 20 Mar 2017, 02:20 Post subject:
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MrAccident wrote: | +OscarTalks - WORKS! Thanks a lot! |
+1
thanks OscarTalks!!
_________________ The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
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boolean
Joined: 31 Oct 2009 Posts: 35
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Posted: Tue 21 Mar 2017, 12:57 Post subject:
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anyone can recompile for x64? , this is for x32
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OscarTalks

Joined: 05 Feb 2012 Posts: 2039 Location: London, England
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Posted: Tue 21 Mar 2017, 13:55 Post subject:
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I don't do much with 64bit but try this:-
http://smokey01.com/OscarTalks/apulse-0.1.10-x86_64.pet
Compiled in Tahr64
Tested briefly with Firefox 52.0.1 in Slacko64-6.3.0 as well as Tahr64-6.0.5 and youtube sound worked in both.
EDIT:- I have swapped it now for one compiled in Slacko64-6.3.0 only because the glibc version is earlier, although the tahr one was working fine in both.
_________________ Oscar in England

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RickGT351
Joined: 27 Sep 2011 Posts: 265 Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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Posted: Wed 22 Mar 2017, 18:41 Post subject:
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I tried that and here's what I got
Code: | # pulseaudio --start
W: [pulseaudio] main.c: This program is not intended to be run as root (unless --system is specified).
E: [pulseaudio] main.c: Daemon startup failed.
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What do I do now?
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artsown
Joined: 12 Sep 2012 Posts: 352
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Posted: Wed 22 Mar 2017, 18:51 Post subject:
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I've briefly tested both the 32 and 64 bit versions of the apulse pets on
the 32 and 64 bit versions of tahrpup and xenialpup. Audio now works
on all four using firefox 52.0.1
That's great, OscarTalks! Thanks.
Art
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