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OscarTalks


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PostPosted: Tue 08 Nov 2016, 00:39    Post subject:  

Vivaldi is becoming my favourite Chromium derivative.
Version 1.4.589.41 now released. This introduces the default location of /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin for libpepflashplayer.so Pepper Flash plugin library. This removes the need to specify the path and the version number in the wrapper script. Both 32bit and 64bit versions tweaked for Puppy with latest Pepper Flash added. Uploaded as .pet and .sfs packages. Menu entry and .desktop file for rox pinboard or start from terminal with the command "vivaldi". The 64bit was tested briefly in Tahr64 and Slacko64 and runs as root with adequate sandboxing. The 32bit runs in slightly older Pups like Precise and Wheezy. In tahr you could optionally introduce sandboxing by editing the wrapper script but this is not essential.
EDIT:- Pepper Flash version upgrade to 23.0.0.207 done.
https://yadi.sk/d/euoIiDRDqcFnK?force_show=1

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PostPosted: Tue 22 Nov 2016, 21:53    Post subject:  

Vivaldi 1.5 is now released.
Testing 1.5.658.44 in both 32bit and 64bit.
Pepper Flash 23.0.0.207 included.
Netflix widevinecdm included but untested.

NOTE:- the location /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin already exists in the Puppy system as a symlink to /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins so I have to put the Pepper Flash libpepflashplayer.so at /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins in the package. That way both .pet and .sfs install and work as expected.
https://yadi.sk/d/euoIiDRDqcFnK

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PostPosted: Fri 25 Nov 2016, 19:12    Post subject:  

Thanks, OscarTalks.
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PostPosted: Fri 09 Dec 2016, 08:50    Post subject:  

Minor update of stable Vivaldi to version 1.5.658.56
EDIT:- Pepper Flash update to 24.0.0.186
Packages re-uploaded 13 December 2016

EDIT:- 22nd December 2016
Packages updated to version 1.6.689.40
https://yadi.sk/d/euoIiDRDqcFnK

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PostPosted: Sat 31 Dec 2016, 02:05    Post subject:  

thank you, Oscar.

It works very stable in fatdog64-702
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PostPosted: Sat 18 Feb 2017, 10:02    Post subject:  

Now testing Vivaldi 1.7.735.46 (32bit and 64bit) with the modification suggested by 666philb using bbe to enable run-as-root with sandbox and infobars enabled. (Actually I am not sure if infobars have been removed from Vivaldi anyway as the UI is extensively modified). Latest Pepper Flash appears to work. Netflix support not tested. Puppies with glibc 2.13 (eg Wheezy) or later.
https://yadi.sk/d/euoIiDRDqcFnK

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festus


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PostPosted: Tue 21 Feb 2017, 15:43    Post subject:  

OscarTalks wrote:
Vivaldi is becoming my favourite Chromium derivative.

I agree too.

I'm running your, Vivaldi 1.7.735.46 32bit and (64bit on fatdog-710), and so far like it very much.

This is my first Chromium based derivative, am impressed, so I went and dl'd Slimjet and Iron to test them out.
I like them all three, but am leaning toward Vivaldi, atm.

Thanks for the browsers. Wink
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roadkill13

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PostPosted: Sun 19 Mar 2017, 16:54    Post subject:  

I have observed that Vivaldi takes much longer to load than chromium, opera, iron or slimjet in the 32 bit variety. Also these 4 render web pages quickly when compared to Vivaldi on my older kit using TahrPup 6.0.6. I would describe Vivaldi as sluggish.
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OscarTalks


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PostPosted: Thu 06 Apr 2017, 06:42    Post subject:  

Vivaldi is perhaps a little slower in the initial start-up than some other browsers but once it is open and you are surfing it does not appear slow in my experience. Also I would say that recent releases appear to start a little more quickly than some of the earlier ones did.

Now testing Vivaldi 1.8.770.54
This was a minor update to the 1.8 stable release (04th April 2017)
Binary modified for run-as-root and some sandboxing using bbe
Enhanced multimedia support via latest libffmpeg.so from repo.herecura.eu
Latest Pepper Flash is in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and is found via the symlink /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin
Puppies with glibc-2.13 (eg Wheezy) or later.
Uploaded for experimentation (take precautions) and to invite comments (32bit and 64bit).
https://yadi.sk/d/euoIiDRDqcFnK?force_show=1

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step

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PostPosted: Fri 07 Apr 2017, 16:08    Post subject:  

Thanks OscarTalks. The sfs works on Fatdog64-710. It even plays videos from cnn.com/videos, which my opera-developer browser can't play although it includes the same libpepflash binary that powers vivaldi.

edit: Got cnn video working for opera-developer too by adding the libffmpeg.so library.

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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Sat 08 Apr 2017, 19:47    Post subject:  

Thanks OscarTalks,

1.8.770.54 64-bit SFS is working well under Tahrpup64 with 4.17 Kernel. Picked up my prior setting and bookmarks. Posting from it now. Still wish there was one 'all inclusive" bookmark manager for vivaldi or any of the Chrome spin-offs.

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jwg

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PostPosted: Mon 17 Apr 2017, 18:11    Post subject:  

Seems to be working fine with Precise Puppy 5.7.1, though pretty slow on my old Pentium 4. Still it's nice to have an up to date browser available when I need to visit one of those sites that require it. Thanks OscarTalks.
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roadkill13

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PostPosted: Wed 03 May 2017, 20:01    Post subject:  

Quote:
Now testing Vivaldi 1.8.770.54
This was a minor update to the 1.8 stable release (04th April 2017)
Binary modified for run-as-root and some sandboxing using bbe
Enhanced multimedia support via latest libffmpeg.so from repo.herecura.eu
Latest Pepper Flash is in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins and is found via the symlink /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin
Puppies with glibc-2.13 (eg Wheezy) or later.
Uploaded for experimentation (take precautions) and to invite comments (32bit and 64bit).
https://yadi.sk/d/euoIiDRDqcFnK?force_show=1


Looks like your now testing 1.9.818.44. I decided to give Vivaldi another go once I installed Quirky 7.21 (32 bit) with f2fs file system on a high speed SD card. The OS is very quick. Iron and Slimjet are very fast. Vivaldi still takes it's time starting up but seems to have improved. Once loaded performance is very smooth.

And thank you by the way for these packages.
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ICPUG

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PostPosted: Wed 10 May 2017, 20:21    Post subject:  

I have been using Opera in Lighthouse Pup 5.03G for years. It has become less and less useful as time has gone on as more and more web sites have moved to html5 and structured pages to work with modern browsers. The pages of my ISP now come up blank in Opera. The Internet Archive will now only show a terms and conditions link that I cannot get past, whatever I search for. This last weekend Youtube finally stopped working with it.

I have been looking at Vivaldi to use instead. I tried using it with Lighthouse and it just didn't start so I guess I need a newer pup.

I have a query. How is the cache implemented in Vivaldi? In the old Opera you could easily find the cache folders and copy files within it to permanent storage so that you could, for example, have offline copies of videos you have watched online. I have found this impossible with Firefox based browsers since, although the cache folders are easy to find, videos are stored separately and deliberately written to deleted files so you do not know their names to copy. Does Vivaldi use the same tricks?

Thanks for any info you can give.
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OscarTalks


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PostPosted: Wed 10 May 2017, 21:16    Post subject:  

Are you talking about the old Presto Opera 12.16 or earlier? There is the new Chromium based Opera but apart from the VPN feature I personally prefer Vivaldi. It is elegant and runs more sweetly in terminal than the alternatives. I get the impression the developers know their stuff. Other folk have other favourites though.

You will have to remind me what Puppy your Lighthouse is based on. If it is a Slacko you will probably need libgconf2 for Vivaldi or any of the other Chromium derivatives. My Vivaldi packages work in Slacko 5.7.0 for example provided you add that lib.

Regarding the cache, I am not sure but I think all modern browsers do some sort of data conversion or compression on the cache files so you can't just pluck them out of there.

A LITTLE LATER:-
Minor version upgrade to Vivaldi 1.9.818.49 with PepperFlash 25.0.0.171

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