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pakt


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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 05:22    Post subject:  

KJ wrote:
How about a dial-up modem wizard for those of us not connected to a network?

Yes, I've put it on my 'to do' list for the next version.

Paul

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Firefox

Joined: 03 Nov 2006
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 08:42    Post subject: Dial Up Modem  

Hi pakt
I`d love a dial up modem like gnome-ppp, it lets me turn of the noise!.
Requires wvdial 1.53.
A great distro- can be the basis for anything!

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KJ

Joined: 20 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 10:26    Post subject:  

Thanks pakt.

Lookin' forward to taking 'em out for a run.

KJ
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ecomoney


Joined: 25 Nov 2005
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 18:17    Post subject: Run in memory  

Am I right in thinking that this will run in memory on a 64mb machine? Were doing a recycling project and were always short on RAM. Would this be more suitable say for 128mb setups with extra .pup files added? What is the basic theory behind it.
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Todd

Joined: 31 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 18:28    Post subject:  

I have placed a copy of BarelyPup at the following address:

http://www.toddrichardson.com/archive/

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raffy

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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 19:08    Post subject: and browser  

And a small browser on it (say, hv3 or Opera) will make it a wonderful educational software.

EDIT: I added the small browsers - download from here.

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slvrldy17

Joined: 17 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 21:27    Post subject:    

Been playing with this pup since you posted it - with mixed results. Am using an IBM T21 Thinkpad - P3 700Mghz, 512MB RAM. Have added a couple of browsers/applications - Iceweasel and Dillo and MT Paint installed/worked successfully. Some others - Firefox 2.0.0.1, Opera 9.1, and Abiword install OK according to the Pupget pkg manager and show up in the menu but will not open or run. Not sure why. Others like GQview install but there is no menu entry to pick for starting them. Haven't tried adding a media player yet. Don't get me wrong - BarelyPup is what we need as a base for all mannner of custom Pups. In many ways it is like the Barebones Puppy's that Barry put out last year. Version 2.02 if memory serves. One way he saved room was using the Xvesa X server only - Xorg was easily added if wanted from Pupget.

OK - some suggestions - first off when trimming the menu down leave all the catagories (left column) from the standard Puppy menu. And leave the complete list of wizards from the setup catagory intact - some of us will need the dial up wizard, firewall wizard, wireless wizard, etc. One thing to consider as an add on package might be all the standard puppy desktop icons set up to allow only those needed/wanted to be added. I suspect that even with the small changes I've outlined this Puppy will still be well below the 50MB level of a mini distro. Good work Paul!

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alienjeff


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PostPosted: Sat 03 Feb 2007, 21:44    Post subject: Don't force obesity on BarelyPup-2.13, PLEASE
Subject description: Lets keep things simple, mkay?
 

Alice and others, I reiterate:

Quote:
Please lets not demand it be made into something it clearly was not meant to be, nor should be.


reference: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/posting.php?p=94546&mode=topicreview&postorder=DESC#94546

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polux


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PostPosted: Sun 04 Feb 2007, 06:05    Post subject:  

Congrats!! This is a wonderful puppet. Very Happy

Alien you made your point, and let me add: Please lets not demand the others to be quiet and let the other users express themselves. Cool

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pakt


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PostPosted: Sun 04 Feb 2007, 07:02    Post subject:  

slvrldy17 wrote:
OK - some suggestions - first off when trimming the menu down leave all the catagories (left column) from the standard Puppy menu. And leave the complete list of wizards from the setup catagory intact - some of us will need the dial up wizard, firewall wizard, wireless wizard, etc.

Thanks for the feedback Smile

I've already added 'dial up wizard' to my 'to do' list - but I'm leaving out all other wizards not directly needed for adding packages to BarelyPup. I want to keep BarelyPup as empty as possible and yet make it *reasonably* easy to make your own custom Puppy.

You'll find that all menu entries are still present, but that I have simply commented out those not applicable. It is relatively easy to 'uncomment' those you want in '/root/.jwmrc'. The upcoming 'XDG' system for handling the menu should make this easier in the future.

I have put in my 'to do' list to include the original 'PuppyPin' file renamed 'PuppyPin_bk'. That should make it easier to put back any default icons.

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Reggie


Joined: 28 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Feb 2007, 13:52    Post subject:    

Cooool!
pakt - you the Big Dog!
Thax for the little puppy.
& Mark - thank you for the file hostin'.

- I'll use this as a seed for my own flavor of puppy.
(like Media Puppy - GIMP / Audacity, all the fun stuff for graphics, videos, music.) One key thing I need to add is fan control and the cool and quiet AMD code.
(My AMD laptop loves puppy, but the fan and cpu stay on 'high' - never stepping down to the cool & quiet lower speed settings.)

Maybe the French guys would like to try it for their build too?
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9010159&intsrc=news_ts_head
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Mon 05 Feb 2007, 14:42    Post subject:  

When I run BarelyPup from the CD or a pristine savefile, I get the cool blue desktop background. Since Barely doesn't have the JWM configuration tools, I can manually change the background by assigning a new graphic to /usr/share/backgrounds/default.jpg. However, when I run Barely with my updated 2.12 savefile, I just get a plain gray background and no amount of tweaking will change it. Everything else from my old savefile works fine - Firefox, Thunderbird, RealPlayer, etc. Any suggestions?
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Todd

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Feb 2007, 18:01    Post subject:  

Rename your preferred background "default.jpg".

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lvds


Joined: 23 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Feb 2007, 06:54    Post subject:  

Hi,

First of all this is a good work Paul and i am (like others) really thanksfull !

Next, may you tell us what could be the process to retire jwm and to insert another window manager for exemple (so to save space and not have 2 windows managers) ?

And, perhaps it would be good to have a document explaining differences between barebones, barelypup, emptycrust etc. as i have problem to understand and to choose the right one when having to build a distro and we get lost among all of this software tools. Something like a spreadsheet telling for each distro the puppy-base-version-number, the xvesa or xorg, the window manager, the sizes of sfs, full iso size, etc.

Best regards,
Laurent.
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pakt


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PostPosted: Sat 10 Feb 2007, 08:26    Post subject:  

lvds wrote:
Next, may you tell us what could be the process to retire jwm and to insert another window manager for exemple (so to save space and not have 2 windows managers) ?

Laurent, I don't have much experience with alternate WMs because, like Barry, I like keeping Puppy as simple as possible without losing basic functionality. I think it would be hard to find a WM that gives you so much functionality using so little code. Eyecandy, which I consider 'bloat', is something I leave to MS Wink

(Just as a side note, have you ever considered how much code it takes to put 'round' corners on rectangular windows? Then ask yourself - why do I need round corners?)

lvds wrote:
And, perhaps it would be good to have a document explaining differences between barebones, barelypup, emptycrust etc. as i have problem to understand and to choose the right one when having to build a distro and we get lost among all of this software tools. Something like a spreadsheet telling for each distro the puppy-base-version-number, the xvesa or xorg, the window manager, the sizes of sfs, full iso size, etc.

Yes, I agree that it is sometimes difficult to tell Puppy variations apart.

I was careful with BarelyPup to include the Puppy-base-version-number in the file name. I believe I also mentioned both iso size and the size of the pup_213.sfs file, that it had JWM and included both Xvesa/Xorg (please see my first post).

I also think it would be a good idea for someone (you perhaps? Wink) to start a wiki page comparing the different features of these Puppy variants. Smile

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