Am I missing something with Puppy?

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#21 Post by drunkjedi »

frourio wrote:My overall impression so far is that Puppy is an enthusiast's tinkering tool/toy (nothing wrong with that) but not really a daily driver, other than for perhaps a very niche crowd.
Hi frourio,
My experience is exactly opposite.
In last 3 years I have converted few of my friends to puppy (12 now, will be 13 if the friend I gave usb yesterday likes it).

They are using puppy as their daily driver.
They just use browser, libreoffice, gimp, vlc mostly.
I tried to get them on forum, but no interest...

I believe trouble comes when tinkering.
For the tinkerers find it hard to get things going.

As puppy does work his own way, so many times suggestions straight out of google fail miserably.

But once you get to know small things that are different in puppy it should be easy.

But what should I know, I am just a noob, who was computer illiterate 3 years ago, tinkering and using puppy on my self assembled PC as my daily driver.

Have fun mate.

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#22 Post by frourio »

Great insight guys.

I can see Puppy being a daily driver for many then. 3 examples would be:


1.) The user who uses mainstream, daily computing program/apps like the ones you mentioned drunkjedi: browser, libreoffice, gimp, vlc.

2.) The "Chromebook" kind of user you mainly uses online apps and the browser as his/her main tool. (All you need is a solid browser and you're good to go.)

3.) The computer nerd that likes to fiddle and tinker and customize. (I find Puppy almost addictive in this case and hard to put down because of all the possible configurations it has.)


However, yeah Mike, in my case my brain is so tired constantly troubleshooting code all day, that perpetually troubleshooting my OS leaves me with no time. It's not for lack of interest (I'm kind of the #3 guy from my examples above) it's just that I can only spare so much computer time in a day.

For those out there trying to decide which route to take that like the portability of Puppy but need to stick with a traditional distro, your best option might be to install a light weight traditional distro like Lubuntu or Peppermint on a USB, and use the following tool for imaging periodically:

Pinguy Builder
http://pinguyos.com/2015/09/pinguy-buil ... emix-buntu

It's pretty simple to use, and that way you don't have to worry about your USB stick failing and your main OS being lost. You can always have an image of it to burn again. From what I understood in the forums, with Peppermint at least, just like Puppy, you can even just straight copy/paste your files to a new stick and create a new grub and you're good to go, without even using the tool. (Never tried that myself though. I've only done that with Puppy.)

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#23 Post by Mike Walsh »

Actually, I was going to make a suggestion.

If you want the versatility of Pup (running from RAM, small footprint, everything neat and small and tidy, and running at blazing speed with even a halfway decent CPU), but you want access to one of the biggest repositories out there, with the greatest choice of mainstream development tools, you could do a lot worse than to give Anti-X or Mepis a try.

Anti-X, in particular, even uses the JWM desktop/Rox-Filer combo.....but because it's based on, I believe, Debian, there's enormous repos, and everything's really stable.....and just a click or two away, with dependencies all sorted out for you.

http://antix.mepis.org/index.php?title=Main_Page

Worth a look? (And in case you're wondering, I fall under all 3 of your categories above..!) :lol:


Mike. :wink:

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#24 Post by musher0 »

Hello all.

For the record, I think Mepis has been superseded by MX. I don't know
the details, but DistroWatch has recently published a review of it at
http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20170109#mx

BFN.
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#25 Post by Mike Walsh »

Yep, you're right, musher0.

I forgot that. Anti-X was developed from Mepis, and proved so popular it gave them the incentive to re-develop Mepis along the same kinda lines.....and re-christen it in the process.

@frourio:-

Thinking about it, your chosen profession, I would guess, requires that your OS be reliable, 100% rock-solid, very stable.....and to help you, in large part, by keeping out of your way, so that you can get on with what you need to do.

Am I right....or am I right? :)

Give Anti-X a look. I think you'll like it. It can be run from RAM, off a USB, like Pup, and even employs something very similar to the save-file/folder concept..

It's worth a try.


Mike. :wink:

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#26 Post by frourio »

True Mike, but on the other hand most work one does on a computer requires the OS to be rock solid and stable, etc.. Foundations are important.

I think the difference with my work in this case is that when your done troubleshooting for the day, you don't really want to troubleshoot again and/or be learning new software and frameworks in addition to those you already have to learn. It's like a doctor being off work and having to volunteer another shift of seeing patients on the few hours he has off in the evening.

If I was, say, a Photographer and used GIMP on occasion in addition to my field work, then it might be refreshing to sit down on my time off and play around improving my OS as a little down time side hobby.

Might give Anti-X a look if I get the chance. Sounds interesting.

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#27 Post by kiramm »

i saw in thread of this fantastic pups a verrrrry interesstinggg:

LP2_WineCorelSuite.sfs
LP2_WinePortableApplicationStarter-1.1.3-1.7.4.sfs


that meas that all wine goldlevel photoshops are to install with one mouse click?
without the

long precedere of :

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=101895

is there also such easy on mouse click wine magic sfs for golden wine level office 2007?

havent seen hotshots ...virtualbox with all lazy;)))quest dragdrop additions included?

to get the min puppy for min iq users;) of sheldons point of view;))))

very HAPPY FOR GETTING ANSWER

is there a lazy artuhr schwert for a pup in secrets magic puppy forest with all this
for normal iq people min essential included? or any pup ?

because puppies are seems only for men with iq 150min;):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIbHNg6X8oY

who cant aunderstad why only few are converting

verrrry looking for answers :)))

puppy king arthurs swordd schwert der diafirmung is the holly grall
solution endlich ersehnte wunderwaffe? of puppy world with no negative sites
that sfs are disturbing each others like can happens sometimes with sfs..?

anyway i thank king arthur + his sword for gordic knod cinerrorela adaption program that time he made for me
he was fast like flash hope that file is still reacheable
big thank !
naturally i thank also mike welsh for his holly grall wine phtoshop
because of that i stayed puppy drunk on puppy longer then ever expected
i also discovered astonished after half year that millenium ;)))secret that there is puppy without rosty only for sheldons roxy rocknroll torture fun filemanager...:))))
puppy is a harry potter endless discovering game that puppy is actually bbbest but that game not sheldons users can t manage to play

das schwert der wahrheit schneidet oft zu scharff?;)

the sword of truth is often too sharp

excuse moi mes big pup bang messieurs
madames... i dont need to say women
are not in this forum or with a girl lady friendy cosy practical puppy on laptop;)))
they cant ...;(((even girls loves puppies but here are mainly sharp?;)pups
sexismus;)))))???

attention please:

1 listen or read is not understand
2 understand is not accepted
3 accepted is not lived ... realised .... lived
4 lived is still not fun selfrealisation .........for shendlers:))))too boring easy a too easy puppy;)?

from ufo exams of economics written + oral there was to know 10 levels min


i quess after 1 year here

that my textes in this forum reached max level 2;)


good night

gute verarbeitung nach dr freud beidigt? adler geltungstrieb +&kollective archetyppuppy unterbewusstes

or good morning for best puppy for ever then ever before :)
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#28 Post by LazY Puppy »

LP2_WineCorelSuite.sfs
LP2_WinePortableApplicationStarter-1.1.3-1.7.4.sfs
This is from a List of my locally existing SFS Modules.

The LP2_WineCorelSuite.sfs is not made publicly for downloads, since Corel Suite is a proprietary Software.

It is only existing on my local hard drive and I don't share this - of course!
RSH

"you only wanted to work your Puppies in German", "you are a separatist in that you want Germany to secede from Europe" (musher0) :lol:

No, but I gave my old drum kit away for free to a music store collecting instruments for refugees! :wink:

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#29 Post by kiramm »

thats clear
bbbut one could make a wine pets sfs which excatly fitts golden level photoshops ??

beside cs2 is free on adobe page


ps beside the fakt that puppy harry potter forest has may secrets pets
now i see some are just to read ?use forbidden
unter natoarieller beglaubugung published dass sie funktionieren;)?
whats that for sense ?
i thought that wine if in thread than linux public:((((
topless wrong name TOPSECRET better;)
or FEREDSHA


lubuntu pepermit ad that anti x have more? better?programs that thar???is this sure??
dont have lubuntu in good memory now all mint mate programs just with click to download there
and there is lick like installer??
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#30 Post by LazY Puppy »

thats clear
bbbut one could make a wine pets sfs which excatly fitts golden level photoshops ??
Yes.

I loaded a wine sfs, installed Corel Suite and created a new wine sfs that includes the directory /root.wine, where Corel Suite was installed to.

That's just all.

Though, I can't say anything about how to include Photoshop. Probably it's just that easy?
RSH

"you only wanted to work your Puppies in German", "you are a separatist in that you want Germany to secede from Europe" (musher0) :lol:

No, but I gave my old drum kit away for free to a music store collecting instruments for refugees! :wink:

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#31 Post by kiramm »

yes i remeber that u are verrry good

but why not to make it divided
that every body clicks his phototshop
after installed ur sfs
or ur wine sfs works so easy ?
easier than mikes procedere?
u have also easy wine for few clicks for office 2007?

that is then blesssing for all comunity :)

photoshop and illustrator
is all what is needed
all suite not essential

illustrator wine impossible
therefore virtualbox important

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#32 Post by kiramm »

mein sehr geehrter herr topstar lazy puppy king arthur with linuxx best sword + schild:))

runs in ur heiliger gral in golden? kelch adobe wine sfs

also illustrator ?

few days ago was published gold hallelujah:):

https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager. ... &iId=26011

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#33 Post by LazY Puppy »

Sorry, but: no, I don't have anything from Adobe running in my Wine SFS. It's just setup with an installed Corel Draw Suite 8. Anything else related to wine programs is used by PortableApps. My system is setup to load a Wine SFS automatically , after clicking a .exe file. The Wine SFS to load is defined in a T.O.P.L.E.S.S. config file and could differ from one Puppy to another. Though, the last time I used a Program in Wine was months ago (probably appr. one year already).

Also, I'm not interested anymore to use Windows Software except when doing 16-track audio recording simultaneously, which I couldn't get to work in Puppy Linux. Never mind, as I'm pretty well setup for this single task of my computer use.

On anything else, I'm a 100% full time user of Puppy Linux. Never ever want to miss it until I may had passed away - somewhere in the very far away future.
RSH

"you only wanted to work your Puppies in German", "you are a separatist in that you want Germany to secede from Europe" (musher0) :lol:

No, but I gave my old drum kit away for free to a music store collecting instruments for refugees! :wink:

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#34 Post by kiramm »

i am also only puppuy user:)

think is geniuos concept
could be for every one

sorry mixed up correldraw with adobe

because correl was first stuff i saw on tu

but later came out adobe bbbbetter

also thought u have a wine sfses special corel or adobe installers for special programs of them

that would be a hit for normal users :)))

whish u nice puppy day

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#35 Post by kiramm »

does ur amazing comfort multi sfs pup
has>
also crop rotate in 1step like in nomacs_?
hotshots or similar practical program with arrows_?
magnetic torrent downloader for piratebay and othermovietorrents?
greet from puppy don kihote with also stumpf schwert

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quixote

... it regularly appears high on lists of the greatest works of fiction ever published, such as the Bokklubben World Library collection that cites Don Quixote as authors' choice for the "best literary work ever written
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#36 Post by kiramm »

i am missing a general readymade pet for magnetic piratbay+& multiple dowload movies like in mint with deluge and others
for thar puppy one exists already and havent seen it?

got answer just in fat dog

or scriptig around
for scripting i am too stupid succes ratio is max 5% in all linux history
that is almost 0
and amount smaller 5% proof amount for no success in maath statisticks validity of theories prognoses
calculations;)
and possibility to destroy linux system 90% after several such tries

so my experience

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... d6dfa14009

looking forward for any answer ad thak to all help + answering from all u till now
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Krita Desktop is a free and open source painting application

#37 Post by kiramm »

Krita Desktop is a free and open source painting application. Version 3.1 was released Tuesday, December 14th, 2016.


----------------> just look and one will misssssss it:))))


https://krita.org/en/download/krita-desktop/

https://launchpad.net/~kritalime/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
-----------------------------------------------
To install Krita just type:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kritalime/ppa
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install krita

If you also want to install translations:

sudo apt-get install krita-l10n

Note: older versions of Ubuntu (including 16.04) are not supported by this repository due to outdated version of Qt library provided. Please use AppImage builds instead [0]

[0] - https://krita.org/en/download/krita-desktop/

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no chance for getting on puppy?



i still would live bbbest if someboy would have fun to make wineLICKinstaler for illustrator
or a recepeit for that like for photoshop:)
so thankfull mike walsh for that !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

still think that even old illustrator smothest line;)


but krita is linuxxxxx!
so maybe easier ?or more fun for linux cross belivers and followers...
or wine krita possible???;) sounds pervres but maybe easier???
havet found any ratings about that...:(

its like following jesus

taking the cross of linux x and follow ......
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more people would use puppy if following

#38 Post by kiramm »

i used first and still now pup.exe

specially thar because most programs
and u can make it to xfce
(if u spend half year discovering puppy world
too long for normal people )
then even more stable
and!
seems better stable working than x thar 1b3 beta version?

https://www.mediafire.com/?5ah0d0rzcz5cc#214jwkplwbal1

every puppy shuld be offered also so
so every one can use it AND TRY IT
EASY WITH NO RISC:)
because deinstal in windows like windows program


so is no wonder of not good rating in linux watch
because x pups are not offered as pup.exe


and u can deinstall them every singel from windows
in case lick u deinstall all installed pups with lick deinstallation
also heard lick doest work maybe i widows 10


+

virtualbox sfs should include all extras like quest additions
because
this is to complicated for world population:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 6&start=15

virtualbox needed for example to run there the free version of cs2 illustrator
because illustrator wine goldlevel cant run on 32bit systems of puppy which have most programs


+
comfort
magnet torent downloader PET for movies filles from piratbay+&
because no women will use puppy if this not there

these methods are too complicated for girls and general world population which are downloading more movies filles parallel all time therefore NO WOMEN IN FORUM AND ON PUPPY!.:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... d6dfa14009

+


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the allready realised tested whish vision of me





here see first pic

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=109614

sfs made by great geofrey just maybe also fatter versions for more programs to get to run

here for every body hopfully to understand what i mean:



wine

+


added winetricks and cabextract


+
added
all possible tricks corefonts vcruns,+ + +extras + +++





put in TOGETHER


IN ONLY 1 sfs or 1pet
OR MORE sfs pets IF IN 1 TOO DIFFICULT

just for user easy to click on and so instale


is my vision of perfect "wineLICKinstaler" from very beginning




possible?


please save the puppy linux world and make it for every body


sos sos


and or making

different configured sfs

for different groups of exe programs

maybe
from lite sfs

to extra heavy for every thing means for mannnny exe programs to get maybe to run



now we discussed all and all forum has all still in head

u superbrains have donne and making wounderfulllllll sfs or pets etc and
u can make it :)
and we all can have a lot of fun with


a puppy linux nobel price world super wonder!

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