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Sage

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PostPosted: Sat 04 Feb 2017, 10:43    Post subject:  

Oh! If it weren't for the water, distance and weight, I could've offered you an old CD reader. If you fancy a swim, turn left up the Bristol Channel...
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PostPosted: Sat 04 Feb 2017, 10:45    Post subject:  

Sage wrote:
Oh! If it weren't for the water, distance and weight, I could've offered you an old CD reader. If you fancy a swim, turn left up the Bristol Channel...
I fancy a swim but all of our water is in another phase Confused See my edit above.
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PostPosted: Sat 04 Feb 2017, 10:54    Post subject:  

Got it. Yup it's down to pb, I guess. Didn't realise Wisconsin was hot enough for plasma yet.
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Moat


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Location: Mid-mitten, USA

PostPosted: Sat 04 Feb 2017, 11:25    Post subject:  

Just to add another data point - booted this old, circa 2004 32 bit P4 Gateway 7320 laptop to Peebee's latest LxPupSc-17.02.1T via CD - proper resolution, sound, wifi (Frisbee), touchpad, Fn keys, Logitech M325 USB mouse and Light browser all working without fault (posting from it now). All good here! (although I do believe this old P4 does SSE2, so...)

Peebee, your LxPups are simply the best. Cool

Code:
--Version-
Kernel      : Linux 4.9.6-lxpup-32-pae (i686)
Version      : #1 SMP Thu Jan 26 18:51:02 +08 2017
C Library      : GNU C Library version 2.24 (stable)
Distribution      : LxPup-Sc - 17.02.1
-Current Session-
Computer Name      : puppypc8278
User Name      : root (root)
Home Directory      : /root
Desktop Environment      : LXDE
-Misc-
Uptime      : 42 minutes
Load Average      : 0.62, 0.56, 0.45

Computer-
Processor      : 2x Mobile Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz
Memory      : 1510MB (429MB used)
Machine Type      : Physical machine
Operating System      : LxPup-Sc - 17.02.1
User Name      : root (root)
Date/Time      : Sat 04 Feb 2017 10:19:44 AM EST
-Display-
Resolution      : 1280x800 pixels
OpenGL Renderer      : Mesa DRI Intel(R) 852GM/855GM x86/MMX/SSE2
X11 Vendor      : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter      : ICH4 - Intel 82801DB-ICH4
Audio Adapter      : PC-Speaker - pcsp
-Input Devices-
 Lid Switch
 Sleep Button
 Power Button
 Power Button
 Video Bus
 AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
 SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
 Logitech M325
 PC Speaker
-Printers (CUPS)-
CUPS-PDF      : <i>Default</i>
-SCSI Disks-
ATA FUJITSU MHT2080A
HL-DT-ST DVD-RW GWA-4080N



Thanks,

Bob
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Sage

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Location: GB

PostPosted: Sat 04 Feb 2017, 13:01    Post subject:  

Two more data points. Unearthed good old quality Gigabyte, XP2200+/256Mb/wifi dongle. Boots up really fast to liveCD, everything working fine. wifi OK, <Light> looks as if it's going to start (rotating circle) - fails. Try PPM to load Seamonkey- same old Mickey Mouse - never finishes loading.
Even older ASUS, D1600/512Mb, onboard video, onboard NIC. I keep one of these in under the attic because it never, ever fails. It failed - same symptoms.
Let's get it clear: The liveCD always boots with all functions working on all x86 (32bit) boards, all combos of mem, video, sound (nice tune, incidentally). Great combo of default goodies - except browsers!! It's fast, very likeable but I cannot get the Live browser to load and cannot get other PPM browser to complete d/l & load.
Weird, everything seems to check out. Hardinfo exactly gives what I expect.
The browser issue is absent in liveCD mode on all my 64bit machines - old 754 single core and new multicore.
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Billtoo


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Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Sat 04 Feb 2017, 13:05    Post subject: LxPupSc - Woof-CE, Slackware-14.2, LXDE experiment  

I burned the new iso to a DVD and booted it on my Compaq desktop,
I used the Puppy installer to a 128GB usb-3.0 SSD.

System: Host: puppypc31574 Kernel: 4.9.6-lxpup-32-pae i686 (32 bit) Desktop: LXDE (Openbox 3.6.1)
Distro: LxPup-Sc 17.02.1
Machine: Device: desktop System: Compaq Presario 061 product:
DQ182A-ABA S6700NX NA410 v: 0nB1411RE101COBRA10 serial: MXM41001K5
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: Cobra v: 1.xx serial: X312345678
BIOS: American Megatrends v: 3.28 date: 08/27/2004
CPU: Single core Intel Pentium 4 (-HT-) speed: 2800 MHz (max)
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV530 [Radeon X1600 PRO]
Display Server: X.org 1.19.1 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,vesa)
tty size: 150x42 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter driver: 8139too
Drives: HDD Total Size: 448.1GB (0.8% used)
Weather: Conditions: 25 F (-4 C) - Mostly Cloudy Time: February 4, 11:38 AM EST
Info: Processes: 189 Uptime: 54 min Memory: 220.1/1506.7MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8

I've found that installing applications with PPM have to be done before
a save file is created, if I do it after PPM doesn't work correctly,
dependencies are missed.

Also my other install to the imac using a DVD+RW saves the first 2
sessions and when trying to save the 3rd session it prompted for a
blank DVD-R, I put one in the drive and it carried on but nothing was
written to it.

This new version is working pretty well on this older computer but
Salix Live 14.2 32bit runs much better, lot less % CPU used when playing videos
etc.
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Location: Worcestershire, UK

PostPosted: Sun 05 Feb 2017, 05:18    Post subject:  

chromium-56.0.2924.87 with pepperflash 24.0.0.221 is now available

The versions of the browsers as of 14-feb-2017 with their md5sums are:

chromium-56.0.2924.87+pepper_24.0.0.221 :a0845436825dd45d523e622354022f6e

firefox-45.7.0esr :93bd60327439abdfba94e93700ea45a0

opera-stable_43.0.2442.806_i386 :32e9d1589cf1c26b3412c524095edb8d

palemoon-27.1.0 :63f1a72ba0b69143422d8f09d908fd1d

seamonkey-2.46 :a7e8216ba4821129798b80a16d459b67

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firefox-51.0.1 is also available from:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/lxpup/files/Other/LxPupSc/browsers/

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Sage

Joined: 04 Oct 2005
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Location: GB

PostPosted: Sun 05 Feb 2017, 05:59    Post subject:  

Here is what I have done:
Copied original .iso and latest delta to USB, used 'real' Slacko to make latest .iso and burned it to CD. Ran this CD in live mode. Everything worked except browsers and PPMs, as above.
Then I tried a FULL install to an HD, despite opening gambit. It installed as usual, why wouldn't it! Moreover it booted up as usual, showing y. & a.drv loaded. That's when the problems started. <Light> didn't load - got error message about loading a.drv (but it was loaded according to boot list). PPM for Seamonkey d/l stalled at 74% d/l. Get browser seems to be working now so tried Opera. d/l success but it doesn't run, not even after WM restart. OK, so it needs a FRUGAL install, as advertised? Why? There seems so little 'wrong' with both the liveCD and FULL surely it's worth the extra effort to make these work, especially as they do so in a 64bit machine! Frankly, my ops. for Puppies only use liveCD or FULL, so I've no interest in FRUGALS, USB, SD - at least not for Puppies, got other options successfully running for those media. Sad, really, as it seemed such a nice project.

Just a suggestion: mistfire's Xslacko-slim, also based on the original Slacko from micko, works comprehensively as a liveCD AND as a FULL install (albeit a bit hobbled due to size). Maybe you clever coder guys can interweave the necessary bits and pieces to enlarge the range of this LX-version, too?
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Sailor Enceladus

Joined: 22 Feb 2016
Posts: 1284

PostPosted: Sun 05 Feb 2017, 20:34    Post subject:  

Another data point for light: I tried light-48 on slacko 6.3 on an AMD Athlon XP 1150 machine, booting live from usb flash, and it didn't work on it and gives the same "Illegal instruction" message from terminal as Sage. I tried Pale Moon 27.0.3 and it also gives me the same "Illegal instruction", then I found a SSE-only version of Pale Moon and thought "wow cool, maybe this one will work" but that one gives me a different error instead (screenshot below). Firefox 28 works great on it with no errors though.

edit: The SSE-only Pale Moon works for me with Slacko 6.9.6.4. I think the glibc-2.17 in Slacko 6.3 was too old to run that build.

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====> CPU <====

AMD Athlon(tm)
Socket Designation: Socket A
Manufacturer: AMD
Voltage: 1.6 V
External Clock: 100 MHz
Max Speed: 2200 MHz
Current Speed of Core 0:1143 MHz

====> /proc/cpuinfo <====

processor   : 0
vendor_id   : AuthenticAMD
cpu family   : 6
model      : 10
model name   : AMD Athlon(tm)
stepping   : 0
cpu MHz      : 1143.746
cache size   : 512 KB
physical id   : 0
siblings   : 1
core id      : 0
cpu cores   : 1
apicid      : 0
initial apicid   : 0
fdiv_bug   : no
f00f_bug   : no
coma_bug   : no
fpu      : yes
fpu_exception   : yes
cpuid level   : 1
wp      : yes
flags      : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow vmmcall
bogomips   : 2288.80
clflush size   : 32
cache_alignment   : 32
address sizes   : 34 bits physical, 32 bits virtual
power management: ts
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Billtoo


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Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Thu 09 Feb 2017, 20:13    Post subject: LxPupSc - Woof-CE, Slackware-14.2, LXDE experiment  

Manual frugal install to the hard drive:

System: Host: puppypc30793 Kernel: 4.9.6-lxpup-32-pae i686 (32 bit) Desktop: LXDE (Openbox 3.6.1)
Distro: LxPup-Sc 17.02.1
Machine: Device: desktop Mobo: Gateway model: FX6860 serial: 109726660000629
BIOS: American Megatrends v: P01-A3 date: 04/19/2011
CPU: Quad core Intel Core i7-2600 (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 1600/3401 MHz
Graphics: Card: NVIDIA GF110 [GeForce GTX 560 Ti OEM]
Display Server: X.org 1.19.1 drivers: nouveau (unloaded: modesetting,vesa)
tty size: 154x41 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Ralink RT3090 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe driver: rt2800pci
Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Drives: HDD Total Size: 2000.4GB (1.0% used)
Weather: Conditions: 18 F (-8 C) - Partly Cloudy Time: February 9, 6:45 PM EST
Info: Processes: 228 Uptime: 21 min Memory: 208.7/16192.4MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8

I did all the setup with PPM,xrandr,and compiled some applications, when
finished with all that I rebooted to create a save file.

It's working well.

Edit:

I used the same method to install to the hard drive of my Lenovo
desktop.
System: Host: puppypc14078 Kernel: 4.9.6-lxpup-32-pae i686 (32 bit) Desktop: LXDE (Openbox 3.6.1)
Distro: LxPup-Sc 17.02.1
Machine: Device: desktop System: LENOVO product: 7491B8U v: ThinkCentre M58e serial: MJ01509
Mobo: LENOVO model: N/A serial: INVALID BIOS: LENOVO v: 5HKT39AUS date: 06/17/2009
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E8400 (-MCP-) speed/max: 2003/3003 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel 4 Series Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.19.1 drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,vesa)
tty size: 128x30 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Marvell 88E8057 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: sky2
Drives: HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (2.9% used)
Weather: Conditions: 14 F (-10 C) - light showers snow Time: February 10, 10:56 AM EST
Info: Processes: 209 Uptime: 27 min Memory: 161.0/3911.5MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8

It's working well on this one too.

Suspend works on both computers.
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PostPosted: Sat 11 Feb 2017, 13:09    Post subject:  

Interim delta to 17.02.22T

Some big changes....
- kernel 4.9.9
- lots of slackware-current changes to Fri Feb 10 21:07:35 UTC 2017
- BUILD_FROM_WOOF='testing;ceb7ffd;2017-02-10 01:12:08 +1000'
- luks encrypted savefiles implemented

@Billtoo ppm problems post pupsave creation should be fixed by woof-ce changes courtesy of @Mavrothal

If somebody can test Transmission that would be appreciated - thanks.

One of the slackware-current changes (llvm update) seems to have made the build bigger sadly....at least I think that's the most likely reason

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Feb 2017, 19:40    Post subject:  

Had to revert to grep-2.27 as grep-2.28 was crashing when called from PPM....

interim delta reuploaded above

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PostPosted: Sat 11 Feb 2017, 21:04    Post subject: LxPupSc - Woof-CE, Slackware-14.2, LXDE experiment  

I applied the delta to generate the new iso, checksum was correct.
Did a manual frugal install and setup, rebooted to create save file and
then ran PPM to install kpat and others.

System: Host: puppypc24357 Kernel: 4.9.9-lxpup-32-pae i686 (32 bit) Desktop: LXDE (Openbox 3.6.1)
Distro: LxPup-Sc 17.02.21
Machine: Device: desktop System: LENOVO product: 7491B8U v: ThinkCentre M58e serial: MJ01509
Mobo: LENOVO model: N/A serial: INVALID BIOS: LENOVO v: 5HKT39AUS date: 06/17/2009
CPU: Dual core Intel Core2 Duo E8400 (-MCP-) speed/max: 2003/3003 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel 4 Series Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.19.1 drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,vesa)
tty size: 117x30 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card: Marvell 88E8057 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: sky2
Drives: HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (4.9% used)
Weather: Conditions: 23 F (-5 C) - Overcast Time: February 11, 7:52 PM EST
Info: Processes: 172 Uptime: 34 min Memory: 217.0/3911.5MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8

PPM worked great, thanks peebee and Mavrothal!

Edit: the intel driver was good with the 4.9.6 kernel, I think it's
even better with the 4.9.9 kernel, not a ripple.

Suspend works with this new version as well.
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PostPosted: Sun 12 Feb 2017, 01:58    Post subject:  

Looks good.
You may want to include cryptsetup in the next build (~250Kb) to take full advantage of the new (and arguably better/more secure) LUKS encryption infrastructure.

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PostPosted: Sun 12 Feb 2017, 02:58    Post subject:  

mavrothal wrote:
Looks good.
You may want to include cryptsetup in the next build (~250Kb) to take full advantage of the new (and arguably better/more secure) LUKS encryption infrastructure.

As in:

cryptsetup-1.7.3|cryptsetup|1.7.3|2|Filesystem|1350K|slackware/a|cryptsetup-1.7.3-i586-2.txz||utility for setting up encrypted filesystems|slackware|current||

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