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3D Control Center: Graficscarddrivers
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MU


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PostPosted: Sat 13 Jan 2007, 13:44    Post subject:  3D Control Center: Graficscarddrivers  

The forum has many messages concerning how to enable accelleration for your graficscard.

This accelleration can be used to watch videos in better quality, or to play games.

The huge amount of postings can be confusing, so now I rewrote the links in the old messages.
Like this you find information for different Puppy-versions in one place:
http://puppyfiles.org/dotpupsde/dotpups/3D-Control-Center/


The files there also can be installed with the PSI software-installer.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=10960


Note for advanced users:
to avoid confusion, only the installers themselves are listed there.
They will download additional files from other folders, like
http://puppyfiles.org/dotpupsde/dotpups/XServer/
http://puppyfiles.org/dotpupsde/3DCC/
You usually will NOT download files manually from there!

If you have questions concerning a program, please post them in the corresponding threads, not here Exclamation

Mark

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mleschishin

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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jan 2007, 14:38    Post subject: Accessing 3dcc graphics drivers without being online?  

I am attempting to run 3dcc on Puppy v2.02

Graphics card is a S3 Virge.

I have downloaded this file & installed it, but not sure if I am doing things right.
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/3D-Control-Center/3D-Control-Center-Puppy1-and-2.00-2.02.pup

It appears that I have to be online in order to download the drivers I need to get acceleration working on my graphics card (?) The computer I am working on is not connected to the internet. So, is there a way of getting 3dcc to work under this scenario?


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PostPosted: Sat 27 Jan 2007, 15:59    Post subject:  

save to
/usr/local/3D-Control-Center/resource/26
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/XServer/DRI/DRI-Kernelmodules-K26b.pup

/usr/local/3D-Control-Center/resource/xorg
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/XServer/DRI/OpenGL.pup
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/XServer/DRI/OpenGL-B.pup

/usr/local/3D-Control-Center/resource/xorgA
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/XServer/DRI/dri-s3v.pup

/usr/local/3D-Control-Center/resource/xorgB
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/XServer/DRI/dri-s3v.pup

Then run it again.
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jan 2007, 14:28    Post subject:  

Mark U:

I tried your suggestion and re-ran 3dcc, but no luck in getting acceleration working.

It seems that the driver is not working. In trying to solve the problem, I had a look around at the files under all of the 3dcc folders. One thing I noticed
under /usr/local/3D-Control-Center/resource/26/DRM, there is no .ko file related to s3v. Is there perhaps some file that may be missing?

Thanks for your help.

Mark L.
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jan 2007, 14:39    Post subject:  

Hm, that's posible, wait...

no, the forumsearch gives no clue.
In Puppy 2.12, also no s3v Kernelmodule available.
So it is no longer supported for Kernel 2.6 Sad
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PostPosted: Sun 28 Jan 2007, 15:41    Post subject:  

Mark:

There are a few newly updated man pages dealing with a S3Virge driver that I am guessing is suppose to work with X.org? See here, for example:

http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man4/s3virge.4.html

There is no explanation, however, where this driver is suppose to be stored within the system, started, or how it works (and I am no X.org expert!)


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PostPosted: Fri 09 Feb 2007, 20:55    Post subject:  

Is there a DRM module avalible? I have a i810 and it accelerates in other distros but it needs the plain DRM module also. Im in pup 2.4 Does anyone have this module?
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Feb 2007, 01:36    Post subject:  

I presume you mean Puppy 1.04-1.09 with kernel 2.4.29?
Mark does host 3D drivers for that series, but it's a question of finding the right versions ... because Puppy's version of Xorg has changed from 6.8.1 to 7.0 since then, and the kernel has changed 3 times.
I think your DRM/DRI files are here http://dotpups.de/dotpups/XServer/DRI/
You will need -

DRM-Kernelmodules-2.4.pup
dri-i810.pup
OpenGL.pup

2.4 kernels work differently to 2.6 kernels. The only kernel modules you need are agpgart and i810, there is no drm module.

I am using the i810 3D driver under Puppy 2.13 and it works great. I can play TuxRacer on a modest Pentium3-733.
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Feb 2007, 01:47    Post subject:  

I've given up. I installed it in pup and the xorg.log says that it is accelerating but I still only get ~14fps in the test. Oh well I was going to order a new card anyway.
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PostPosted: Sat 10 Feb 2007, 02:07    Post subject:  

I seem to remember that i810 had problems under Xorg 6.8.1.
But under Xorg 7.0 from Puppy 2.12 onwards i810 with 3D is fine.
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PostPosted: Sun 18 Mar 2007, 05:53    Post subject:  

I updated the dotpup for Puppy 212-213 (should work in 214,too).
It now downloads from puppyfiles.org instead of dotpups.de.

Servage.net just does not get the DNS--settings for dotpups.de working Evil or Very Mad

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PostPosted: Sun 13 May 2007, 03:17    Post subject:  

a. servage scammed you. they scammed everyone on this forum, too.

b. on a machine running xp at a very fast speed, i can go full screen with powerdvd, or i can run vlc (foss) in high or realtime (in xp) and ALMOST get as much performance, or i can play the same dvd in gxine in puppy at maybe 400x300ish resolution, and get performance that's almost as good. so i guess what i'm thinking is... if you want to play a dvd on your computer you need windows. or you need to be a linux programmer.

that sucks, but then with all the stuff they do to make dvd's unplayable, it's almost understandable.

still, people should be honest about what puppy can and can't do. honest, or perhaps i should say informed. puppy cannot play dvd's for crap. it just can't. except that there might be a few exceptions to this rule that honestly do not apply to the average person. period.

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PostPosted: Sun 13 May 2007, 06:10    Post subject:  

On my old Ati-card 7500, I could play DVDs in high resolution on a Pentium700.
Windows refused to play them, I think it was a codec-issue.
StarWars, original DVD.

Puppy just by default might not play in high quality, as it has no accelleration-modules.

That is, why it can be so small.
Muppy with all codecs and other luxury weights 200 - 450 MB.

So if you need luxury, but don't want to suffer with installing the rquired dependencies on your own, get one of the blown up puplets.
May the choice be with you Wink

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PostPosted: Mon 14 May 2007, 22:03    Post subject:  

fair retort. if the bloat needed to do it in windows is there, then it's tricky to complain about the bloat needed in versions of puppy that make it easy.

i stand by the rest of course, when it's really not easy for the average person, it shouldn't be claimed that it is. room for opinions on what easy is remains, but still.

of course i'd really rather be using puppy for this, i'd rather be using puppy for everything. i've had a dvd player for a long time, but the equpiment i'm used to just isn't fast enough on any os.

i may have enough equipment and software to get online in linux soon. that would be pretty kickass. then again, with the long history of attempts, i refuse to get my hopes up.

i *did* come a long way for playing with puppy, and i still play with puppy. i've never said otherwise. sometimes i think there's another side to fud tho... a sort of ridiculous overoptimism people have. not sure. anyway, yeah- point for mu. believe me, i still look forward to being rid of windows as much as ever, just to be clear on that.

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PostPosted: Thu 30 Aug 2007, 23:23    Post subject: 3d Control Centre - Install Nvidia Driver does nothing
Subject description: Install Nvidia Drivers option does nothing - no driver installed.
 

Hi there -

Is it just me or does the option "Install Nvidia Drivers" do nothing in 2.17.1 ?

I click the button - nothing happens.

Is there something I'm missing?

Geforce440mx
2.17.1 Tmxxine Prism
3D Control Center v2.00
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